What are these idiots thinking?

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in iPod + iTunes + AppleTV edited January 2014
Apple critics claim holding back of music business.



Why are pure hack job articles like this allowed to even be published? The editor should be shot.



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Not necessarily. As has been true since the start, iPod owners mostly fill up their players from their own CD collections or swipe tunes from file-sharing sites.



Filling your iPod from your CD collection is both legal and profitable for the music industry. While Apple cannot stop iPod owners from using stolen music they do remind them not to steal, and offer the most profitable for the music industry, easiest to use and very reasonably priced online store.



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Now legal downloads may be losing their luster. According to Nielsen SoundScan, average weekly download sales as of Nov. 27 fell 0.44% vs. the third quarter. Says independent media analyst Richard Greenfield: "We're not seeing the kind of dramatic growth we should given the surge in sales of iPods and other MP3 players."



Perhaps the industry should stop lying, suing its customers and treating them like thieves, adding attempts to copy protect music cd's that make them harder to enjoy and possibly destroy your computer and attempting to raise prices beyond what the value of the music should fetch.



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Critics say Apple's proprietary technology and its refusal to offer more ways to buy or to stray from its rigid 99 cents a song model is dampening legal sales of digital tunes.



Yes because every good economist knows that they way you raise demand it to raise prices.



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"The villain in the story is the iPod," says Chris Gorog, CEO of Napster Inc. (NAPS ), which sells both subscriptions and downloads. "You have this device consumers love, but they're being restricted from buying anything other than downloads from Apple. People are bored with that."



No one is stopping Napster or any other service from providing downloads in a format other than protected Windows Media format. The fact that they choose so is because they would rather repackage than innovate. Using Microsoft technology and sales agreements does not innovate you past what Apple does, in fact it is the most "boring" thing I can imagine.



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There's no need to fit Apple CEO Steven P. Jobs with a black hat just yet. A source close to the Cupertino (Calif.) company says sales of iTunes gift cards are "off the charts," so downloads should surge after Christmas. And even with the sales lull, iTunes is still the fastest-growing and most margin-rich source of sales for record labels.



This is why most major record companies deserve to die. iTMS is a cash cow and all they can think about are ways to disrupt the use of it, and kill it. Fastest-growing and most margin-rich = lets screw with it and kill it in corporate record logic.



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That's because an army of companies has rolled out new ways to provide music -- from legal peer-to-peer sites to established players such as Real Networks Inc. and Napster that offer all-you-can-play subscriptions for a monthly fee.



From the Napster site....



We're sorry, Napster is not currently compatible with your operating system.



Napster is currently compatible with Windows XP/2000.

Windows 95, Windows NT and the Mac OS are not supported at this time.




That really sounds like an Apple problem.



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. The thing is, very few work with the iPod. "I have half a million subscribers who would love to use an iPod with my service," says Napster's Gorog.



So pay some programmers and endorse something more than a repackaging of the proprietary Windows Media format. Asking customers to go from one proprietary format to another is not innovation.



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Music labels say they'd sell and earn more by offering an old Uriah Heep tune for 39 cents and a new Usher track for $1.29. "I'd be the kind of guy looking for older music at a lower price," says David Rosenblum, an 18-year-old political philosophy major at Harvard University and a singer who performs as Dev Avidon.



This is complete and utter nonsense. Record companies make the most profit from their older music. They simply keep repackaging it and never lower the price. Worst still while the movie industry has gotten very smart about sweetening the value proposition, record companies have not. Pay the actors and director to come back and give commentary for a DVD release is almost a standard operating procedure now. Yet we see nothing like this for the music industry.



Apple is the only thing even saving the industry at this point.



Nick

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 8
    flounderflounder Posts: 2,674member
    Yeah, I don't know how the music companies can say they want price flexibility to lower the price on older tracks with a straight face.



    You KNOW they won't do that.
  • Reply 2 of 8
    I read this article the other day too.



    Terrible analysis.



    Lots of presumptions (like the only place anyone cen get music for their iPod is from iTMS and thus pricing at iTMS is the critical link here). The one question that was never asked and answered is why the music companies aren't going to other companies and offering better deals if they think Apple is a roadblock. Apple is merely a music retailer here and not the only one by any stretch.



    When they got to quotes from Naptser (hardly an unbiased source) I realized this wasn't journalism at its best.
  • Reply 3 of 8
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by trumptman

    Apple critics claim holding back of music business.



    Why are pure hack job articles like this allowed to even be published? The editor should be shot.







    Filling your iPod from your CD collection is both legal and profitable for the music industry. While Apple cannot stop iPod owners from using stolen music they do remind them not to steal, and offer the most profitable for the music industry, easiest to use and very reasonably priced online store.







    Perhaps the industry should stop lying, suing its customers and treating them like thieves, adding attempts to copy protect music cd's that make them harder to enjoy and possibly destroy your computer and attempting to raise prices beyond what the value of the music should fetch.







    Yes because every good economist knows that they way you raise demand it to raise prices.







    No one is stopping Napster or any other service from providing downloads in a format other than protected Windows Media format. The fact that they choose so is because they would rather repackage than innovate. Using Microsoft technology and sales agreements does not innovate you past what Apple does, in fact it is the most "boring" thing I can imagine.







    This is why most major record companies deserve to die. iTMS is a cash cow and all they can think about are ways to disrupt the use of it, and kill it. Fastest-growing and most margin-rich = lets screw with it and kill it in corporate record logic.







    From the Napster site....



    We're sorry, Napster is not currently compatible with your operating system.



    Napster is currently compatible with Windows XP/2000.

    Windows 95, Windows NT and the Mac OS are not supported at this time.




    That really sounds like an Apple problem.







    So pay some programmers and endorse something more than a repackaging of the proprietary Windows Media format. Asking customers to go from one proprietary format to another is not innovation.







    This is complete and utter nonsense. Record companies make the most profit from their older music. They simply keep repackaging it and never lower the price. Worst still while the movie industry has gotten very smart about sweetening the value proposition, record companies have not. Pay the actors and director to come back and give commentary for a DVD release is almost a standard operating procedure now. Yet we see nothing like this for the music industry.



    Apple is the only thing even saving the industry at this point.



    Nick




    Absolutely spot on. You've nailed it exactly.



    The record companies are run by lawyers and accountants. They don't know how to find and nurture real talent, so they push hideous synthetic acts only an agent could love. When it falls flat in the market they blame "pirating" for declining sales.



    Wankers.
  • Reply 4 of 8
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Flounder

    Yeah, I don't know how the music companies can say they want price flexibility to lower the price on older tracks with a straight face.



    You KNOW they won't do that.




    I wouldn't mind if Apple set the price celing at 99 cents, and kept the price flexibility below that. One could get a hit track for 99cents and an older one for 50, but like you said, we all KNOW that wouldn't happen.
  • Reply 5 of 8
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
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    SoundScan, average weekly download sales as of Nov. 27 fell 0.44% vs. the third quarter. Says independent media analyst Richard Greenfield: "We're not seeing the kind of dramatic growth we should given the surge in sales of iPods and other MP3 players."



    Can you say Christmas?? I think most of those iPods are still in wrapped boxes. You have to wait for Dec 25th to make a judgement like this.





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    "The villain in the story is the iPod," says Chris Gorog, CEO of Napster Inc. (NAPS ), which sells both subscriptions and downloads. "You have this device consumers love, but they're being restricted from buying anything other than downloads from Apple. People are bored with that."



    Now there is a credible music industry source!!!!
  • Reply 6 of 8
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    Do anyone know how large Apples marked share is on



    -Digital music sales

    -Online music sale



    ?



    Unless their online music sales marked share are significant lower than their digital music player share the problem isn´t Apples but a industry problem.
  • Reply 7 of 8
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Anders

    Do anyone know how large Apples marked share is on



    -Digital music sales

    -Online music sale



    ?



    Unless their online music sales marked share are significant lower than their digital music player share the problem isn´t Apples but a industry problem.




    If you mean player and music sales. I think they are roughly 75-85% for both.
  • Reply 8 of 8
    eckingecking Posts: 1,588member
    It's funny how Napster that was blasted by the music industry for raping the music industry now has the balls to blast apple for "raping the music industry" with the ipod. These hypocrites should go to hell.
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