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http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/25/news...0606/index.htm



Hmmm...could it be? interesting comments about the future of the tv....

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  • Reply 1 of 11
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    Originally posted by macfly

    http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/25/news...0606/index.htm



    Hmmm...could it be? interesting comments about the future of the tv....




    Not sure what you're getting at. Just because Steve Jobs doesn't want to integrate the PC and TV doesn't mean that someone else doesn't. Anyway with the Disney/Pixar thing I don't see how he can avoid it anymore....but we'll see about that.
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    macflymacfly Posts: 256member
    sorry, guess that was a bit vague. it was in the spirit of the rolo discussion about the possibility that apple would blow the doors off the market by integrating a set top type device with an SED tv from canon, far surpassing the common plasma or LCD screen...setting yet another quantum leap in tech from apple.

    just thought it was cool. they are also suggesting entry into the market in the spring...a la april 1 or so.

    obviously no inside info..i was just wishing it would be true when we were talking about it before.
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    mr. memr. me Posts: 3,221member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by macfly

    sorry, guess that was a bit vague. it was in the spirit of the rolo discussion about the possibility that apple would blow the doors off the market by integrating a set top type device with an SED tv from canon, far surpassing the common plasma or LCD screen...setting yet another quantum leap in tech from apple.

    just thought it was cool. they are also suggesting entry into the market in the spring...a la april 1 or so.

    obviously no inside info..i was just wishing it would be true when we were talking about it before.




    Rolo has been discredited. He was done in by a piece of disinformation that had stupid written all over it. Whether it uses CRT, plasma, DLP, LCD, SED, or Etch-a-Sketch display technology, the TV market is a bad one for Apple to enter. Why? Simple. Rolo's rumored Apple plasma TVs offered more functions than the competition, but at the same price. What is is the color of red ink? Apple is in business to earn a profit. The TV market is one in which prices are dropping like a stone. An SED display TV will be subject to the same price pressure as every other display technology.



    BTW, do you what is celebrated in the USA on April 1?
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    jcgjcg Posts: 777member
    Interesting not on big screen TV's, VIIV, and the Mac. While reading the paper this weekend I browsed through the ads as usual just looking at TV's and prices. I'm not in the market at the moment but look about every week to see where the prices are. This week I noticed that the specs were a bit more clearly marketd, especially when noting if the TV had HDMI and iEEE 1394.



    Why is this interesting to me, it looks like these connections are making it into lower end models. This is especially nice if there is iEEE (aka FireWire) connectivity as this offers a way to directly connect and control the TV via the computer. At home I have a link to using this connectivity to set up the computer/TV as a DVR with software that is available with one of Apple's development kits.



    Connectivity is going to be the key to computer/AV convergence. Intel's VIIV is one proposed system, but the winner is going to be the connectivity that the AV component companies adopt and there is nothing to say that they will embrace a wireless solution, if they do it might take quite a while to get it down to the mid to low end models that are going to be neccessary to really establish a dominance in the market. It does appear that FireWire is making it down to the mid level products, which is a good sign to the consumer.
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    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Mr. Me





    BTW, do you what is celebrated in the USA on April 1?




    Apple's Birthday.
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    ibuzzibuzz Posts: 135member
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr. Me

    [B]Rolo has been discredited. He was done in by a piece of disinformation that had stupid written all over it.



    Judging by the hate mail, he was apparently not the only one. HIs rumor was plausible given the current state of flux. see

    http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/27/tech...tune/index.htm
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    cubitcubit Posts: 846member
    It seems to me the issue will be: can Apple and the Mac integrate with these new display technolgogies, either as a kind of "base station" or that "hub-thing" while doing their work as the computers we all seem now to use for everything? I want a mac-tv far less than a mac capable of integrating with tv.
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    mr. memr. me Posts: 3,221member
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by ibuzz

    [B]
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Mr. Me

    Rolo has been discredited. He was done in by a piece of disinformation that had stupid written all over it.



    Judging by the hate mail, he was apparently not the only one. HIs rumor was plausible given the current state of flux. see

    http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/27/tech...tune/index.htm




    Huh? The only hardware not currently sold by Apple mentioned in the Money magazine article is a PVR. There is no mention of a plasma display at all. As for the "hate mail" directed at Rolo, I don't see it. He was wrong. A lot of people are wrong. Had he just shut up and gone on to something else, people would have forgotten about it. Instead, he chose to come back and make excuses for the stupid rumor that he spread. For the most part, he received the criticism for making excuses rather than the original rumor.
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    screedscreed Posts: 1,077member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JCG

    Interesting not on big screen TV's, VIIV, and the Mac. While reading the paper this weekend I browsed through the ads as usual just looking at TV's and prices. I'm not in the market at the moment but look about every week to see where the prices are. This week I noticed that the specs were a bit more clearly marketd, especially when noting if the TV had HDMI and iEEE 1394.



    Hey, I do that too! I noticed two weeks ago that in their adverts Best Buy is now attaching "720p" and "1080i" badges to the pictures of screens as opposed to leaving EDTV vs. HDTV in the fine print.



    Much better.
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  • Reply 11 of 11
    ibuzzibuzz Posts: 135member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Mr. Me

    Huh? The only hardware not currently sold by Apple mentioned in the Money magazine article is a PVR. There is no mention of a plasma display at all.





    As for the "hate mail" directed at Rolo, I don't see it. He was wrong. A lot of people are wrong. Had he just shut up and gone on to something else, people would have forgotten about it.





    Instead, he chose to come back and make excuses for the stupid rumor that he spread.





    For the most part, he received the criticism for making excuses rather than the original rumor.






    the reference to the article was simply to show that the market place for digital video content is in a period of change. The move to put iTunes and the iPod into the video foray along with the content relationships being formed show that Apple is a serious contender to become what it has become in the digital music market. Hardware will follow. No? So a computer linked to a high def display is not plausibe? From my limited view it is.



    I think he was defending himseslf. If it was such a "stupid" rumour, then why was the original post 17 pages or so within a day or two. stupid rumours generally get ignored.





    Originally posted by Rolo

    "Hey there, Mac fans! Been sifting through all the new info, watching the keynote, while waiting for the dust to settle. I'll tell you something interesting about that plasma rumor. Word is, it may have been purposely planted by Apple to mislead the rumor mongers. The iPod boombox sort of fell flat so they thought this plasma routine would do the trick. Anyway, that's what I'm hearing with my ear pressed to the third rail.



    All sorts of new stuff coming down the tracks like the rest of the MacBook Pros and the MacBooks but no word on when. Since the pro apps won't really be there until March, I'd look for the new 17" MBP around that time. The MacBooks should arrive in time for the education buying season in the spring. The revised Mac minis around that time, too. Hope it has a different form factor, a revised Front Row and Apple Remote, and DVR capability. Just a big, fat hope thoughÑno info to go on.



    It has been mentioned in recent years that Apple might engage in misdirection and it looks like that's what happened. There was a clue embedded in the original rumor that I mentioned, the use of the term AppleDesign to describe speakers and remote. That term was pre-Jobs.



    Anyway, it was a very interesting and informative discussion of the Viiv platform and of flat panel display technologies. It was also a great market research tool for Apple. I'm sure they read this stuff and delight in all the falderal but they can also learn what sorts of things we're interested in. There's a great opportunity here for it to make a product that eliminates HDTV hell.



    I'm really happy with all the new stuff and look forward to all the new things to come. I'll be getting one of those new MacBook Pros soon. "



    quote from inslider

    "Please go the fuck away."



    maybe a little harsh.

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    IT seems that there are those who feel the need to put others down to elevate themeselves in their own eyes. It never works. Such animosity reflects poorly on the individual expressing it. Immature.
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