Is the G5 dead for sure?
Despite of all the praise about the new Mactel from Apple, I myself would like to have a Dual-Core G5 in the iMac because of some great experience with the Quad-PowerMac. Just imagine the great disappointment in my mind when Apple launch the new Intel iMac!
So... is the G5 dead for sure? No future G5 products waiting to be launched? Silly to say, I am still waiting for a Dual-Core iMac G5.
So... is the G5 dead for sure? No future G5 products waiting to be launched? Silly to say, I am still waiting for a Dual-Core iMac G5.
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is the G5 dead for sure?
Stick a fork in the G5...it's done.
Originally posted by KingOfSomewhereHot
uh ... SJ himself said they are transitioning the ENTIRE line to intel this year.
Well... he didn't say to eliminate all the PowerPC products.
Just kidding.
You know... April Fool's day is coming.
Maybe Apple would launch a Dual-Core iMac G5 anyway.
Originally posted by mechengit
Well... he didn't say to eliminate all the PowerPC products.
Just kidding.
You know... April Fool's day is coming.
Maybe Apple would launch a Dual-Core iMac G5 anyway.
you can still buy a G5 iMac, you know?
if you need power, go for Quad PowerMac, what you are waiting for???
what a Topic!!!
Originally posted by shanmugam
what a Topic!!! [/B]
Originally posted by shanmugam
you can still buy a G5 iMac, you know?
if you need power, go for Quad PowerMac, what you are waiting for???
what a Topic!!!
Quad-PowerMac is just too expensive.
Besides, it is not really that urgent for me to buy a new computer. So, what I am doing right now is take my time and wait, since Apple won't be able to get rid of all their existing inventory of PowerPC products for a while.
But basically G5 G6 etc is dead. IBM have far more interest in game consol cpus than desktop/laptop as of now at least.
Make what you will of it...
I shake it again and out came "iSight", "iPod" and "Airport Express". Ready, get set, rumour AWAY!
Originally posted by mechengit
So... is the G5 dead for sure? No future G5 products waiting to be launched?
Seems more likely to me apple is hedging their bets with Intel. If IBM gives Apple the deal they want on cell the then I think we could see PPC on their workstations and Intel on the rest. Makes sense to me, especially in the light of rumors of the "politics" going on between Apple and IBM. Apple wanted something IBM wouldn't give them and I don't think it was just faster clock speeds. Apple had been dealing with that problem for years and as evidenced by the macintel's the new chips aren't "all that and a bag of chips" as the kids say these days.
As a true "power user" I have to say I don't agree with this shift. I gave it a chance and after a few months of adjusting and after seeing the new books (lame update I can't believe that we actually lost functionality with the new books and what a flacid name; macbook, might as well call it limp d__k.
Well I'm sure apple had a good reason for making what now appears to be a very bad decision. After all we don't know what thier plan really is, nor what Intel has up their sleeves, but for now I too have to hedge my bets and for now I'm sticking with PPC.
Originally posted by spliff monkey
Well if the G5 is dead what about altivec apps?
Apple has now something like an acceleration library that takes care of SIMD optimisations automatically (to some extend of course), according to the hardware detected. But you can bet that hand-tuned Altivec optimisations are dead.
I mean from what I can tell about the new intel macs from the bench tests, they perform great on sort of a "system level" (copying data, ripping music, opening windows, searching etc) but they only perform about half as well as their PPC components when it comes to altivec heavy commands like Photoshop filters. I use Photoshop everyday and I have to say that it would disappoint me greatly if the Gaussian blur took twice as long to execute. Which is what the benchmarks reflect, unless of course I read the information incorrectly?
I am afraid so. As of now, Photoshop runs in the new Intel Macs under Rosetta and takes its good share of performance hit due to translation. So the comparison is not fair. One has to wait the native version in order to run more meaningful tests.
Originally posted by Splinemodel
I know this is probably a joke...but the 360 is a Xenon processor...not a G5. And the PS3 will be a Cell. These chips are architecturally very different from the G5. The only thing that is common between them is that they are PPC chips.
It would be nice if SSE4, should it come to be, ends up more like Altivec. Most of the Altivec code I've ever written is pretty tight and small, and I won't mind re-writing it if there's actually a performance motivation to do so. But for now SSE3 isn't enough to warrant this, and I think that's the general consensus among folks who used to embrace altivec (and still like it).
Originally posted by kim kap sol
I know this is probably a joke...but the 360 is a Xenon processor...
You are correct: it was a joke. But it is true that G5 Macs were used to develop the xBox 360 software before the xBox 360 platform existed. Needless to say, the G5 may be dead, but the PPC is alive and well, and in all likelihood will be around after x86 fades away.
Originally posted by kim kap sol
I know this is probably a joke...but the 360 is a Xenon processor...not a G5. And the PS3 will be a Cell. These chips are architecturally very different from the G5. The only thing that is common between them is that they are PPC chips.
It doesn't use a Xenon CPU. It has a PowerPC CPU. The code name for the PPC chip was Xenon. The xBox 360 has a triple core 3.2 Ghz PPC chip developed by IBM.
Originally posted by quagmire
It doesn't use a Xenon CPU. It has a PowerPC CPU. The code name for the PPC chip was Xenon. The xBox 360 has a triple core 3.2 Ghz PPC chip developed by IBM.
What I don't understand is that if IBM could develop a triple core 3.2 Ghz G5 for the Xbox 360, why they couldn't develop it for Apple.
Originally posted by dansgil
What I don't understand is that if IBM could develop a triple core 3.2 Ghz G5 for the Xbox 360, why they couldn't develop it for Apple.
The chip that is in the 360 is a stripped down PPC CPU, probably not capable of doing computer kind of work. Just designed with gaming in mind. To make it capable of doing computer work, it would run at very high temps probably.