*Finally* new calculator on the way

in Mac Software edited January 2014
On Apple.com you can see that the new eMac comes with new cientific calculator! Must be part of the upcoming Jaguar release, no?


  • Reply 1 of 10
    That's the shareware <a href="http://www.pcalc.com"; target="_blank">PCalc</a>.

    It's also Software. moving.
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    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    It ships on new imacs too. Purdy nice, but it's funny that they had a scientific calculator in the old DPs of mac OS X (you could toggle between a simple calculator and a scientific one in the prefs) and let it go.

    Since PCalc2 is Carbon, it has to reside in a folder instead of being a bundle, and Info and RPN, Tape and Info windows pop up on the sides of the calculator, like they are desperately trying to be drawers. How hard could it be to write the thing in Cocoa if that's what they wanted?
  • Reply 3 of 10
    [quote]Originally posted by kelib:

    <strong>Must be part of the upcoming Jaguar release, no?</strong><hr></blockquote>Nope!

    As everyone else has already pointed out, that is PCalc and it has been available for Mac OS X for well over a year. It has shipped with iMacs since the last MW.
  • Reply 4 of 10
    [quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:

    <strong>Since PCalc2 is Carbon, it has to reside in a folder instead of being a bundle...</strong><hr></blockquote>Wrong. Carbon apps can be bundled too. I have several that are running right now including iTunes, Snapz Pro X, Toast Titanium, QuickTime Player, and Virtual PC. Others I have include iMovie, Final Cut Pro, MacTracker... the list goes on.

    Please, don't turn this into anther pathetic "Cocoa is better than Carbon" thread. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
  • Reply 5 of 10
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    Wasn't making any attempt to make this a Carbon vs. Cocoa thread, so keep your shirt on. ze point was it's not as elegant as the pretty screenie would make you think.
  • Reply 6 of 10
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    I knew it shipped with the new Power Macs but I never knew it shipped with the iMacs too.
  • Reply 7 of 10
    badtzbadtz Posts: 949member
    what is meant by "bundle" and "folders"?

    :-) thanks
  • Reply 8 of 10
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    [quote]Originally posted by Badtz:

    <strong>what is meant by "bundle" and "folders"?

    :-) thanks</strong><hr></blockquote>

    You know what a folder is: a directory with files and subdirectories in it. A bundle (or package) is a special kind of folder. Its acts like a file. It does not normally disclose its contents and usually holds some sort of executable (read: application) in it. When you double click on the bundled folder, it launches the executable. What's nice about bundles is that they hide most of the miscellaneous junk that an app needs to run: resources, plug-ins, etc. So it looks like one simple little application icon instead of all that other stuff you normally see in app folders (for example that Internet Explorer claen-up and first-run stuff in OS 9). PCalc is not a bundled app. It has its application icon, but you have to keep a folder with all the other resources that it needs to run normally. This problem is pretty common with Carbon apps since I don't think you can bundle an app and have it run on OS 9 (I could be wrong about that), which many if not most Carbon apps have to do.

    The really weird thing is the window behavior in the app. Click on Info and you'll see what I mean: it really wants to be a drawer...
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    cdhostagecdhostage Posts: 1,038member
    I want Apple to Carbonize Graphing calculator! Seriously, that was the greatest program included for free with 7-9! Whenever I was tbored in keyboarding, I'd fire up GC and set a good ol' z = y2(tan)x spinnign!
  • Reply 10 of 10
    [quote]Originally posted by cdhostage:

    <strong>I want Apple to Carbonize Graphing calculator!</strong><hr></blockquote>Apple didn't make that program; they just licensed and included it. Graphing Calculator was made by Pacific Tech. Regardless, it would nice to see an update.
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