AMD announcd 4x4 Enthusiast Platform
Man is 2008 looking teh sexy or what? PCI Express II, a mature Hypertransport 3 and dual socket Quad Core computers.
Intel is going to have to meet these specs to keep Apple focused on Intel solutions. The 4x4 motherboards using DDR2 should be pretty nice. Each core has a direct link to a RAM bank.
This hobby is too fun.
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Originally posted by Placebo
Unfortunately there's not a huge market for quad-core SLI rigs.
There will be. Dual Core is the standard desktop by years end so therefore Quad Core becomes the enthusiast platform. Vista requires grunt and with hardware supported VM like Parallels I think a config like this becomes a no brainer. I'm not overly concerned about video SLI but more CPU power powering the right OS is a thing of beauty.
AMD announce Torrenza
other microprocessor R&D companies
Today AMD unveiled what it calls the evolution of enterprise level computing, called Torrenza. The new platform, says AMD, will utilize next-generation multi-core 64-bit processor that have the capability to work alongside specialized co-processors. DailyTech previously reported that AMD was considering working with co-processing design firms such as ClearSpeed, to develop and design platforms that would be able to utilize specialized processors for specific duties alongside the general host processor in a traditional Opteron socket.
Sounds like the potential to do things that are best handled by DSP engines today.
Which is good news for the Mac Pro...
Originally posted by hmurchison
Man is 2008 looking teh sexy or what? PCI Express II, a mature Hypertransport 3 and dual socket Quad Core computers.
Intel is going to have to meet these specs to keep Apple focused on Intel solutions. The 4x4 motherboards using DDR2 should be pretty nice. Each core has a direct link to a RAM bank.
This hobby is too fun.
Intel will have four cores per processor in early 2007, Where have you been? All that other stuff is available to anyoone. It looks more like AMD is a year behind to me.
The thing with Intel's first gen 4-core processors is that they're behind the same size front speed bus as the dual core Woodcrests will be, which cuts down on their effectiveness.
Lastly, 4 core processors or 4 core boards aren't much use if the OS doesn't know how to spread the load around to multi-processors instead of dual-processors, and it also doesn't do much if apps don't start going multi-threaded.
I'm not knocking Intel or AMD's offerings, I'm just saying there's a lot more to all this than "the most cores wins!!!" or "more MHz is better!!"
The AppleCore.
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Originally posted by onlooker
Intel will have four cores per processor in early 2007, Where have you been? All that other stuff is available to anyoone. It looks more like AMD is a year behind to me.
Yes but the problem is that Intel is still at a disadvantage with the memory bus. Not that I care because I'm not running apps that are latency bound but I'm thinking these motherboards should be a wee bit cheaper than your Intel Server/Workstation dual socket boards.
Originally posted by hmurchison
Yes but the problem is that Intel is still at a disadvantage with the memory bus. Not that I care because I'm not running apps that are latency bound but I'm thinking these motherboards should be a wee bit cheaper than your Intel Server/Workstation dual socket boards.
But a year later nevertheless. By that time how much will a year old MB cost when intel may have 6 to 8 cores per processor? Also I thought the intel roadmap had ODMC's right after the kensington/clovertown processors in early 2007.
Anyway. We'll see. There is nothing to get overly excited about until there are competing benchmarks from shipping processors.
Originally posted by onlooker
But a year later nevertheless. By that time how much will a year old MB cost when intel may have 6 to 8 cores per processor? Also I thought the intel roadmap had ODMC's right after the kensington/clovertown processors in early 2007.
Anyway. We'll see. There is nothing to get overly excited about until there are competing benchmarks from shipping processors.
Intel is still swearing by the Front Side Bus, but are tenatively going towards ODMC by 2008-2009.
Originally posted by theapplegenius
Intel is still swearing by the Front Side Bus, but are tenatively going towards ODMC by 2008-2009.
Yup. Keyword search is "Intel CSI" it's the closest thing they have to a ODMC and Hypertransport.
Originally posted by NVRsayNVR
Ah, the never endig Core War! This type of announcement really means high end computing is coming to everyone... Even the little guy with the most modest needs who buy's an entry level puter. Apple is poised to rein in the OS war so this should really be exciting. Even '07 is going to be incredible... Finally!
Exactly! I don't mean to compare Intel vs AMD based hardware but rather show that quad core computing whether it be dual-core SMP or a quad-core SMP is coming very soon. I'm pretty stoked because we're getting more CPU bandwidth however heat is being contained better than the 90nm transition.
Today's computers don't do a very good job of multitasking. We're soon going to expect our computers to stream multiple HDTV streams to our entertainment setups and still maintain some fluidity. That's going to require some grunt and 4 or 8 core systems will be up to that challenge with Leopard and Vista IMO.
Originally posted by fooey
i think apple should release their own chips.
The AppleCore.
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