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cool11cool11
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in macOS edited January 2014
I looking to so many topics about leoard but I cannot find what I am searching.

Does anyone have any information if leopard will include internal capability of running native windows applications?

There are some rumours but who can tell something fo sure?

Does 'spaces' in leopard preview show us the future movements of apple?

Or bootcamp and parallels will be the only options to run windows programs?



I need virtualisation very much, so any information about it would be appreciated.

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  • Reply 1 of 14
    >_>>_> Posts: 336member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cool11


    I looking to so many topics about leoard but I cannot find what I am searching.

    Does anyone have any information if leopard will include internal capability of running native windows applications?

    There are some rumours but who can tell something fo sure?

    Does 'spaces' in leopard preview show us the future movements of apple?

    Or bootcamp and parallels will be the only options to run windows programs?



    I need virtualisation very much, so any information about it would be appreciated.



    Leopard does not have the ability to natively run Windows applications.



    It does have Bootcamp included though, so you won't be required to download and install it.* /shrug



    Currently Bootcamp and Parallels are the only reliable solutions, but there is no saying a competitor won't come around.



    - Xidius
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  • Reply 2 of 14
    cool11cool11 Posts: 73member
    I had a hope the virtualisation would be one of the secret features of leopard.
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  • Reply 3 of 14
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cool11


    I had a hope the virtualisation would be one of the secret features of leopard.



    http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/inde...try_id=1518422

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    I had a talk with Phil Schiller at the opening of the 5th Avenue Apple Store, and I asked him the question, ?will Apple include a virtualization solution in [the next version of Mac OS X] Leopard.? He said ?absolutely not, the R&D would be prohibitive and we?re not going to do it. Our solution is dual boot.?



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  • Reply 4 of 14
    cool11cool11 Posts: 73member
    What a dissapointing article!

    I think this means that any solution would come from third-party software developers and not Apple.
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  • Reply 5 of 14
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cool11


    What a dissapointing article!

    I think this means that any solution would come from third-party software developers and not Apple.



    And since there are already two such solutions, namely Parallels and VMWare, I don't understand why Apple would need to provide one anyway.
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  • Reply 6 of 14
    mr. memr. me Posts: 3,221member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cool11


    ... I think this means that any solution would come from third-party software developers and not Apple.



    And this is a bad thing how?
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  • Reply 7 of 14
    cool11cool11 Posts: 73member
    No, I am not saying it's a bad thing.

    I was speaking in general. If something is supported natively then maybe it is better than to have to buy other software.

    Like in windows that have a lot of holes and you need a lot of third party apps to do basic tasks that other operating systems do without third-party apps.
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  • Reply 8 of 14
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
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    Originally Posted by Chucker


    And since there are already two such solutions, namely Parallels and VMWare, I don't understand why Apple would need to provide one anyway.



    There's also the Wine based CrossOver. http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/ I doubt it will work as well as the others, but may be good enough for some users.
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  • Reply 9 of 14
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Sure, but pedantically, the question was specifically referring to virtualization, not API cloning.
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  • Reply 10 of 14
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    The OP is cornfused. he talks about running Windows apps natively (internally) within OS X and virtualization. These are two different and separate things.



    Running Windows apps natively within OS X is either emulation or API cloning such as Wine and Crossover.



    Virtualization (Parallels/VMWare) is running Windows on the same box simultaneously, but not technically "within OS X internally".



    They both have competing advantages and disadvantages depending on what you need, but are very different ways cracking the Windows apps on Mac hardware nut.
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  • Reply 11 of 14
    cool11cool11 Posts: 73member
    But as I can understand neither of them will find it's way internally in os x.
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  • Reply 12 of 14
    blackbird_1.0blackbird_1.0 Posts: 724member
    ^ Correct, but the third party application won't be very expensive, though.
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  • Reply 13 of 14
    icfireballicfireball Posts: 2,594member
    I don't think virtualisation will be includded in Leopard, but to remind all of you out there, Steve Jobs did say there would be no video iPod.
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  • Reply 14 of 14
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cool11


    But as I can understand neither of them will find it's way internally in os x.





    My point is they can NEVER be internal to the OS. All of those solutions are necessarily separate from the OS.



    That doesn't mean Apple couldn't provide those apps some day, but that will not make them part of the OS. I don't think Apple ever will provide those apps though. Apple generally fills in where there is a void or a really needed app sucks. All of those solutions have third party availability that doesn't suck so there really isn't any reason for Apple to get involved.
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