Roxio Toast 5.2 Out Thursday Sept.5
September 4, 2002 9:02PM
edited January 2014
Spoke with Roxio tech support today and they said that they expected Toast 5.2 with Yamaha CRW-F1 Graphics/Text Burning and Jaguar 10.2 support might be posted as soon as Thursday September 5th.
Reply 1 of 15
September 4, 2002 9:40PM
[quote]Originally posted by Multimedia:
<strong>Spoke with Roxio tech support today and they said that they expected Toast 5.2 with Yamaha CRW-F1 Graphics/Text Burning and Jaguar 10.2 support might be posted as soon as Thursday September 5th.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What I'd like to see is UDF support -- the format that's compatible with DirectCD on Windows.
Reply 2 of 15
September 4, 2002 10:57PM
Never heard of it. Why? What do we need it for? Have you told Roxio?
Reply 3 of 15
September 5, 2002 5:50AM
Can someone tell me the advantage to buying Toast over just using iTunes?
I plan on copying and burning Many cd's (ie cd to cd...although now I just have one drive...superdrive...)
oh and that Yamaha drive interested me because of the graphics burning but since it only does it on the unused portion of burning side it doesn't seem that useful...how do you guys your lableling? It would be great if this technlogy used the other side of the cd but I guess then we would need double sided cd's and another laser in the cd recorder...
Reply 4 of 15
September 5, 2002 9:58AM
you want to copy audio cds? Hmm, i dont think you can do that with iTunes. You COULD just drag and copy the tracks from the audio CD onto your HD, then drag those to iTunes and burn.
Toast can let you do it on the fly. Plop CD in, it copies to HD, asks for blank cd, wait a few min, done.
Reply 5 of 15
September 5, 2002 10:20AM
[quote]Originally posted by Multimedia:
<strong>Yamaha CRW-F1 Graphics/Text Burning</strong><hr></blockquote>
What is the Graphics/Text Burning?
Reply 6 of 15
September 5, 2002 12:00PM
from a blurb I saw, basically the CDR engraves pictures into the CD with a laser.
Very cool stuff
Reply 7 of 15
September 5, 2002 12:03PM
The CRW-F1 is the first CD-RW recorder to offer the revolutionary
Laser Labeling System, which allows graphics and text to be burnt onto CD-R disc, eliminating the need for labels. Customers can put graphics, such as signatures, logos, memorandums, and photo images onto CD-R's unused area after data writing. This unique feature will certainly enhance the CD-R recording experience for many users.
Yamaha's revolutionary CRW-F1 allows you to record a full CD in under 3 minutes and burn your own text or graphics on the disc at the same time!
24X CD-RW Ultra Speed CD-RW rewrites in half the time of current CD-RW drives.
Mt. Rainer Support First ever 24X CD-RW rewrite speed with full Mt. Rainer support.
Maximum Speed/ Maximum Quality 44X audio rip and read speed.
Advanced Audio Master? Quality Recording System Record studio-quality audio and data with Yamaha's exclusive Advanced Audio Master recording system.
Audio and Data Both audio and data are recorded at top speed (unlike other high-speed recorders).
Maximum Performance Full-CAV technology designed to guarantee maximum performance.
SafeBurn? Buffer Management System Eliminates buffer underruns and allows for reliable multi-tasking.
Plug and Play Easy installation with full Windows XP support.
The new Yamaha CRW-F1 provides Industry-first 24X CD-RW rewriting and an advanced audio/data quality recording system to create studio-quality audio CDs.
? Yamaha's exclusive
? system burns graphics and text on any CD, eliminating the need for labels.
F1 Speeds Allow you to record a CD up to 15% faster than any other high-speed (40X+) CD recorder.
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Reply 8 of 15
September 5, 2002 12:39PM
[quote]Originally posted by ZO:
<strong>from a blurb I saw, basically the CDR engraves pictures into the CD with a laser.
Very cool stuff</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thats freaking awesome. Looks like I need to update Toast. I hope its free
Reply 9 of 15
September 5, 2002 1:10PM
Thanks Zo!.... guess i need to get toast then
I was waiting for that CD recorder to come out too till I found out it does not let you burn a graphic on to the label side of the cd and only let's you use the unused portion (if there is any) of the recordable side of the cd to burn the graphic onto...
But that still might be enough tech wizard to impress a geeky babe with...hmm maybe I will get <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />
Reply 10 of 15
September 5, 2002 1:36PM
Hmm... Jaguar support? 5.1.4 works just fine for me under Jaguar.
Reply 11 of 15
September 5, 2002 2:45PM
[quote]Originally posted by Chucker:
<strong>Hmm... Jaguar support? 5.1.4 works just fine for me under Jaguar.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Toast Titanium 5.1.4 refused to load with Windowshade X 2.1. An update to Windowshade X solved this problem. Maybe Toast Titanium ties up loose ends like that.
Reply 12 of 15
September 5, 2002 2:59PM
yet another eason to stick with 5.1.3
Been burning to my heart's content with it in Jag and WindowShade 2.1 for the past 2 weeks... neary a problem.
Willough, you need THAT CDR to be able to make those graphics
Reply 13 of 15
September 5, 2002 8:58PM
Sorry gang. That's what Roxio tech support told me when I asked them "when?" I guess it will be another day.
Must be very soon if they thought it was going to be today.
Oh well. Another rumor bites the dust. My bad.
Reply 14 of 15
September 5, 2002 9:20PM
[quote]Originally posted by Multimedia (I believe in response to my desire for UDF support):
<strong>Never heard of it. Why? What do we need it for? Have you told Roxio?</strong><hr></blockquote>
UDF is a format that lets you treat a recordable CD more like a floppy, in that there is no special moment when you have to finalize and burn -- you simply write and rewrite as you go. You can insert a CD, add or delete a few files, and then eject it almost immediately. UDF works for CD-R, but since CD-R UDF discs can't reclaim space from deleted files, UDF works best with CD-RW.
Roxio is quite well aware of this format... This is from their web site:
For Windows only, Roxio's DirectCD software provides access to the UDF format:
I really loved being able to do this in Windows... I say "loved", past tense, not because I don't have my PC anymore, but because Windows XP doesn't work with my old free-with-my-PC Easy CD Creator software... only a $100 full price upgrade to version 5 will fix it.
Since I have to pay full price, I'd much rather get a Mac OS X version. Roxio even supported DirectCD for Mac a long time ago, but they were having technical problems and simply gave up on it.
By the way, OS X by itself can
UDF, it just can't write UDF. What's a little worrisome is that I've seen a bad UDF disc crash OS X -- it appears that OS X's UDF reading is not very fault tolerant, so a bad disc can bring down this otherwise very stable OS.
Here's a quote from Roxio's web site:
A: Roxio is dedicated to our Macintosh customers and plans on completely and fully supporting Mac OS X. We have already rewritten most applications and have them running on Mac OS X. Unfortunately, many of the OS drivers our products need to actually burn a CD have not been released by Apple yet. Since our engineers are working with Apple engineers on a daily basis, we believe we will be 100% compliant shortly after an updated and complete version of Mac OS X is released.
Roxio's goal is to provide Mac OS X support for the following new products:
* Roxio Toast
* Roxio Jam
* Roxio DirectCD for Macintosh
The problem is, their site has now said this for over a year, but I haven't seen any signs of progress,
Reply 15 of 15
September 5, 2002 10:15PM
You mentioned having to buy a $100 full price upgrade because CD Creator is incompatible with Windows XP. A similar thing happened when my mom bought a 2x2x6x Lacie CD burner many years ago and the supplied Toast 3.8 software didn't work properly. Completely didn't work. Adaptec (the owners of Toast at the time) suggested upgrading to Toast 4, at full price. After that, it worked, but it was flaky. I was informed that disabling the Authoring Support extensions in OS 9 (we didn't have OS X at the time) would fix the problem, which it didn't. I was also told that there was a free patch on Roxio's website with a fix for that, which there wasn't. My brother eventually found "Toast Lite" which only worked in OS 9, so he decided to get back at both the stupid compaines who ripped us off twice by pirating Toast Titanium 5 off Gnutella.
I'm glad he did. I don't even have a burner, but I find it very useful for making disc images. There were a few games that he and I pooled our money to buy, like Age of Empires, so when I moved to college, it's handy to be able to play the game without the CD. Only somewhat illegal, because I did pay for it.
Hopefully Roxio is cleaning up their act and actually supporting their paying customers instead of telling them to buy more stuff, but I don't know. Has anyone else had crappy support from Roxio or Adaptec?