Non-Native 9 Booting-Jobs: "80% Of Our Customers Are WRONG!"
Is he saying that the next version of OS X will prevent any of us from booting into 9 from X? Or is he saying that the next refresh of hardware will prevent native 9 booting? So far all reports are very incomplete ? failing to explain what the announcement really means. Since 80% of Mac users have never even heard of OS X (;> 
, how the hell is Apple going to sell that core constituent new Macs if they won?t boot OS 9?
This sounds like one of the dumbest moves ever announced in the history of personal computing. ?We think 80% of our customers are WRONG! Therefore we will cater to the other 20%.? It doesn?t get any dumber than that.
And I?m a Jaguar user.
, how the hell is Apple going to sell that core constituent new Macs if they won?t boot OS 9?This sounds like one of the dumbest moves ever announced in the history of personal computing. ?We think 80% of our customers are WRONG! Therefore we will cater to the other 20%.? It doesn?t get any dumber than that.
And I?m a Jaguar user.
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<strong>Is he saying that the next version of OS X will prevent any of us from booting into 9 from X? Or is he saying that the next refresh of hardware will prevent native 9 booting?
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No to your first question, yes to your second.
[quote]Originally posted by Multimedia:
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This sounds like one of the dumbest moves ever announced in the history of personal computing. “We think 80% of our customers are WRONG! Therefore we will cater to the other 20%.” It doesn’t get any dumber than that.
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Your argument makes absolutely zero sense. 80% of their customers are not using OSX, because virtually none of those 80% have bought a new Mac since OSX was preinstalled. Therefore those people can all continue to use OS8 or 9 or whatever. Most of those 80% would gladly use OSX if they had a new machine that would run it, and with X preinstalled.
Only a very small percentage of people are running x-capable hardware but booting into OS9 directly (a few audio and graphics pros). The reason those few are booting into OS9 (and I do it myself sometimes, for audio hardware and software support) is because not all of their hardware and/or software is supported in X. If Apple makes this announcement, that's going to force all those hardware and software vendors to finishe their X support upgrades, thus eliminating the need for people to boot into 9 on new hardware.
To recap:
1. If you're using "old" hardware (that is, hardware released prior to the end of 2002) this doesn't affect you because you're able to boot into 9 if you want to (though few people will want to anyway).
2. If you're using "future" hardware that only boots into OSX, this will likely not be an issue, as virtually all the hardware and software that's keeping people booting into OS9 (Quark, printer/scanner drivers, Pro Tools, other audio apps, audio plugins) will have X versions by early 2003, when said hardware will be released.
In other words, Apple is catering to 99% of their customers, and excluding only the very few who will be really "stuck" by a hardware/software vendor who refuses to support X (say, Umax).
This is a GOOD thing in my book, helping pressure companies like Quark (not that I care any more, having moved to In Design), Mark of the Unicorn, Digidesign, Waves, Native Instruments, and others, to get with it WRT OSX.
Of course, I didn't have to buy a load of application upgrades to run under OS 9 on my Cube. That said, I've yet to find any of my apps which won't play under Classic, and I think the trade-off in terms of feature-integration under OS X will be worthwhile long-time.
I've yet to boot into 9 since loading X on this machine...
I have to admit that anyone who doesn't want to spend $1K or so for a recent modern OS X capable Mac is probably never going to upgrade to OS X. I see your points. Thanks for the clarification.
I guess I'll be ordering a dual 1.25 GHz MDD December 26th so I can get a $700 copy of In Design 2.0 FREE, Jaguar 10.2.3 and still be able to boot into 9 for I don't know what. I'd still like to have the last PowerMac that boots 9 natively. I guess I'm just old fashioned.
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The hardware Apple sells **TODAY** won't boot into System 6!
OMFG!! :eek: I'd better go grab another Mac SE/30 while I still can! God forbid Apple abandon support for an outdated operating system like this!!