So using the Keynote as an example, if one had an Apple TV, could you start watching it as it down loads, or whoulc the download have to be totally completed first?
Or is it different because its a podcast and not a streaming video?
I'm trying to get a handle on what exactly Apple TV would do for someone. It appears to only be good for iTunes content....
OK cool I heard about it on Tuaw.com - but when I downloaded I got only 6 seconds. Thought it would be streaming. It's showing 1+gb now. Downloading... Cool thanks peoples 8)
I will wait a few days before re-inhaling the RDF. As you can see from my Location, I am still in MacWorld rehab. They have banned viewing the keynote until I am released from MacWorld Rehab.
I'm trying to get a handle on what exactly Apple TV would do for someone. It appears to only be good for iTunes content....
Put your DVD content on your Mac/ Apple TV. DVDRip FFmpegX to H.264 MP4 Mencoder to have each DVD movie converted to 1.5-2GB each movie at little loss of quality. Saves popping discs in and out when chilling in front of the TV and you feel like watching The Matrix for the 10000th time 8).
Xvid content... That's another story. I used to be able to Divx Doctor it to MOV so it would show up nicely in iTunes... and hence Front Row today, but not so worky on the MacBook. VLC.
So iTunes trailers, movies, tv shows, music videos, music + ripped DVDs would be the main use for Apple TV now. And a good way to hook up your tunes to your main powerful 2.1/ 5.1/ 7.1 Dolby Digital speakers without dragging your Mac to the stereo (though of course you could do that with Airport Express before, now Apple TV is a total solution).
If anybody figures out the Xvid to MOV solid solution for 10.4.8 MacBook Macintel, that would be real sweet, thanks. Divx Doctor, downloading latest Divx for Mac, 3ivx (not worky, I uninstalled it), all no worky.
Digital audio out from the AppleTV is sweet. However the specs for other movies, I wonder how flexible it will really be: From http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html
Video
* Video formats supported: H.264 and protected H.264 (from iTunes Store): 640 by 480, 30 fps, LC version of Baseline Profile; 320 by 240, 30 fps, Baseline profile up to Level 1.3; 1280 by 720, 24 fps, Progressive Main Profile. MPEG-4: 640 by 480, 30 fps, Simple Profile
Audio
* Audio formats supported: AAC (16 to 320 Kbps); protected AAC (from iTunes Store); MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps); MP3 VBR; Apple Lossless; AIFF; WAV
The "average" home user isn't going to be ripping their DVDs, trans coding and compressing them. The time involved, let alone the odds and ends of software involved (Toast is a commercial one stop solution however) might be too complex. And frankly, it isn't easier than walking to your DVD player and putting the disk in.
So no one has a clue as to TV being able to play streaming content off the internet?
The "average" home user isn't going to be ripping their DVDs, trans coding and compressing them. The time involved, let alone the odds and ends of software involved (Toast is a commercial one stop solution however) might be too complex. And frankly, it isn't easier than walking to your DVD player and putting the disk in.
So no one has a clue as to TV being able to play streaming content off the internet?
Movie Trailers might be streaming off the Internet
You are right though DVD ripping is not a mainstream use.
AppleTV is about iTunes Store paid content and freePodcasts, mostly cached, not streamed, on your HDTV.
Man, you guys are all so smart....! The average IQ here must be like 160 or 180 or something. And you all are mostly smart enough to know that IQ is such a bullsh1t measure of "intelligence".
"And frankly, it isn't easier than walking to your DVD player and putting the disk in."
Interestingly, in this case, the DVD player is your computer in another room. If it is cached as a 2GB MP4 on AppleTV, *may* be easier than walking to your computer and then have to stream the DVD* via 802.11g into the AppleTV.
Knowing how we're hitting throughput limits on the 802.11g area, the Sync and Cache is the key killer feature of AppleTV. When you sit in front of your TV, you don't want to think about your computer, per se. Just plop yourself on the couch, fire up a podcast, movie trailer, TV episode, movie, or music.
*Actually, then thinking about it, AppleTV is NOT about DVDs, since you have a separate DVD player or in a few years, Bluray/HDDVD player next to your HDTV anyway. And DVD players are so cheap, I anticipate DVD players sitting next to AppleTV comfortably. Streaming a DVD from computer to AppleTV/ HDTV actually doesn't make sense.
Good to see John Ives is *actually* still in the mix. He looks kinda beefed-up like his been hitting the gym or the twinkies or both (can't tell from the video). 8)
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Somebody in "The Loop" mailing List sent this link
Sebastian
And at a hefty 1.21 GB!
Somebody in "The Loop" mailing List sent this link
Sebastian
Yeah, right here in General Discussion.
Apple to release best of Steve Job Keynotes
Or is it different because its a podcast and not a streaming video?
I'm trying to get a handle on what exactly Apple TV would do for someone. It appears to only be good for iTunes content....
Is it better quality in iTunes?
Way better, and on the iPhone part the words "GPS" or "location aware" never appeared.
I will wait a few days before re-inhaling the RDF. As you can see from my Location, I am still in MacWorld rehab. They have banned viewing the keynote until I am released from MacWorld Rehab.
I'm trying to get a handle on what exactly Apple TV would do for someone. It appears to only be good for iTunes content....
Put your DVD content on your Mac/ Apple TV. DVDRip FFmpegX to H.264 MP4 Mencoder to have each DVD movie converted to 1.5-2GB each movie at little loss of quality. Saves popping discs in and out when chilling in front of the TV and you feel like watching The Matrix for the 10000th time 8).
Xvid content... That's another story. I used to be able to Divx Doctor it to MOV so it would show up nicely in iTunes... and hence Front Row today, but not so worky on the MacBook. VLC.
So iTunes trailers, movies, tv shows, music videos, music + ripped DVDs would be the main use for Apple TV now. And a good way to hook up your tunes to your main powerful 2.1/ 5.1/ 7.1 Dolby Digital speakers without dragging your Mac to the stereo (though of course you could do that with Airport Express before, now Apple TV is a total solution).
If anybody figures out the Xvid to MOV solid solution for 10.4.8 MacBook Macintel, that would be real sweet, thanks. Divx Doctor, downloading latest Divx for Mac, 3ivx (not worky, I uninstalled it), all no worky.
Video
* Video formats supported: H.264 and protected H.264 (from iTunes Store): 640 by 480, 30 fps, LC version of Baseline Profile; 320 by 240, 30 fps, Baseline profile up to Level 1.3; 1280 by 720, 24 fps, Progressive Main Profile. MPEG-4: 640 by 480, 30 fps, Simple Profile
Audio
* Audio formats supported: AAC (16 to 320 Kbps); protected AAC (from iTunes Store); MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps); MP3 VBR; Apple Lossless; AIFF; WAV
So no one has a clue as to TV being able to play streaming content off the internet?
The "average" home user isn't going to be ripping their DVDs, trans coding and compressing them. The time involved, let alone the odds and ends of software involved (Toast is a commercial one stop solution however) might be too complex. And frankly, it isn't easier than walking to your DVD player and putting the disk in.
So no one has a clue as to TV being able to play streaming content off the internet?
Movie Trailers might be streaming off the Internet
You are right though DVD ripping is not a mainstream use.
AppleTV is about iTunes Store paid content and freePodcasts, mostly cached, not streamed, on your HDTV.
Man, you guys are all so smart....! The average IQ here must be like 160 or 180 or something. And you all are mostly smart enough to know that IQ is such a bullsh1t measure of "intelligence".
"And frankly, it isn't easier than walking to your DVD player and putting the disk in."
Interestingly, in this case, the DVD player is your computer in another room. If it is cached as a 2GB MP4 on AppleTV, *may* be easier than walking to your computer and then have to stream the DVD* via 802.11g into the AppleTV.
Knowing how we're hitting throughput limits on the 802.11g area, the Sync and Cache is the key killer feature of AppleTV. When you sit in front of your TV, you don't want to think about your computer, per se. Just plop yourself on the couch, fire up a podcast, movie trailer, TV episode, movie, or music.
*Actually, then thinking about it, AppleTV is NOT about DVDs, since you have a separate DVD player or in a few years, Bluray/HDDVD player next to your HDTV anyway. And DVD players are so cheap, I anticipate DVD players sitting next to AppleTV comfortably. Streaming a DVD from computer to AppleTV/ HDTV actually doesn't make sense.
It rocks. 10x the RDF. Which would make the keynote 10000000x the recommended monthly RDF dosage.