i just ordered in tiger and my brother just bought vista for his laptop. now he is a big mac hater and ths will be my first time using one so how will my tiger look compared to vista with its cheap little effects?
The Windows Vista design is so glaringly bad, only people with bad user interface taste will think its cool and hip. Show your brother tiger, tell him that the Mac has been doing what vista has been doing for years. Remind him that he can get a preview of Windows 2012 later this spring when Leopard comes out
Seriously, stop caring. He is just being really, really immature. Just use your computer and you will understand why it is so great. Let him deal with all the effects of the smoke-and-mirrors for a while ,and it will get annoying. I bet he's turned it off after a month, and then it's just XP Black.
Wait a second - if you have a separate computer from your brother, why don't you just set a password for your account. That would keep your brother from deleting files. Isn't that your other problem?
Also, design of a GUI is about ease-of-use, clarity, and the ability to look at it for extended periods. You'll see that the simple, diverse, and pretty look of OS X is much better.
How does that Vista Exposé thing work anyway. Let's say you want to drag and drop something onto another window. With tiger, you just grab something, go to Exposé, hover over the window you want and then drop it in.
If you hover over a window in the Vista thing, do the windows automatically start to scroll so you can find the one you want and then drop it in? Can you even get to the Vista thing like you can in Tiger by using activated corners on your screen?
Let's say you want to drag and drop something onto another window. With tiger, you just grab something, go to Exposé, hover over the window you want and then drop it in.
What?
Does that only work when invoking Exposé with a Mighty Mouse? Because I tried click-holding a couple different things (image file and a folder,) pressing F10 and dragging but they won't drop. I also tried doing that after pressing F9.
Attempting to drag Untitled Folder 3 into Untitled Folder 1, while in Exposé F9. When doing so, a gray and white circle with diagonal line through it (like you would see on a No Smoking sign) would be overtop the file and/or folder I was trying to drop. The sceenshot doesn't show the circle.
edit -- I see. It isn't an instantaneous drop (probably faster with an intel processor). With my computer, it takes a second for the folder to realize that I want to drop the file into it, then it does a quick blink and forefronts itself so I can drop the file into it.
i just ordered in tiger and my brother just bought vista for his laptop. now he is a big mac hater and ths will be my first time using one so how will my tiger look compared to vista with its cheap little effects?
just type some commands into your mac to get it to speak...
It works just like spring-loaded folders. The delay is intentional. If it happened instantaneously, it would be very annoying.
Yes, I agree, it would be annoying. However, it would be cool if there was a way to choose the recognition speed, because I tend to do things quite fast. But as physguy wrote, pressing the space bar instantly forefronts it, just as pressing the space bar instantly opens spring-loaded folders. But it would be nice if I were able to change the recognition speed, so the space bar wouldn't need to be used.
Yes, I agree, it would be annoying. However, it would be cool if there was a way to choose the recognition speed, because I tend to do things quite fast. But as physguy wrote, pressing the space bar instantly forefronts it, just as pressing the space bar instantly opens spring-loaded folders. But it would be nice if I were able to change the recognition speed, so the space bar wouldn't need to be used.
Well I found a reference to the following additional preferences/defaults for expose
in a terminal window then the time delay to spring up goes to forever. Substituting true for false returns it to normal. Unfortunately either it doesn't actually use the wvous-spring-delay value or I don't know how to set it as typing
defaults write com.apple.doc wvous-spring-delay 1
killall Dock
has no effect. Maybe someone else can figure out the format (if any) of how to utilize the wvous-spring-delay.
Where the 20, as best I can tell, is in milli-seconds. Obviously it won't go in 20 msec but I put 20, 200 and 2000 in for the number and didn't percieve much of a change before 2000 and then it was about a 2 second count.
Remember when people were worried that offering a command line interface in OS X would be the death of the "real" Mac? That lazy developers would start relying on obscure Unix stuff to implement functionality?
Instead, we get easy ways to tweak little things to our hearts content, like this tip and the one in another thread about changing the default behavior of iTunes.
Beats the hell out of having at things with Resedit from Classic days.
Oh yea, that cool little app that could do so many things. I used ResEdit from the System 6.05 days on until Mac OS 9.2.2. I really miss it sometimes! \
Do I need to Restart the comp after? And where did you find that?
No, you don't need to restart the computer the command 'killall Dock' will do that. Make sure that Dock is capitlized.
Google is your friend. I googled 'defaults write expose' and found that expose preference were in the com.apple.doc.plist file under the prefix wvous. I then googled defaults write wvous and found that listing.
Google is your friend. I googled 'defaults write expose' and found that expose preference were in the com.apple.doc.plist file under the prefix wvous. I then googled defaults write wvous and found that listing.
I'm guessing you meant the "D" in "Dock" is supposed to be Caps, not the entire word. Okay. Yes, on most occasions, Google and I get along beautifully [laughing].
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Wait a second - if you have a separate computer from your brother, why don't you just set a password for your account. That would keep your brother from deleting files. Isn't that your other problem?
The glass effect...too much. No point in using this effect! It only distracts.
Secondly, the Vista Expose clone: less functional. Can I see the window in the back instantly? Nope.
Probably Microsoft did try to avoid a patent issue here and put all the windows in perspective.
If you hover over a window in the Vista thing, do the windows automatically start to scroll so you can find the one you want and then drop it in? Can you even get to the Vista thing like you can in Tiger by using activated corners on your screen?
what is expose???
An invaluable feature http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/expose/
what is expose???
Let's say you want to drag and drop something onto another window. With tiger, you just grab something, go to Exposé, hover over the window you want and then drop it in.
What?
Does that only work when invoking Exposé with a Mighty Mouse? Because I tried click-holding a couple different things (image file and a folder,) pressing F10 and dragging but they won't drop. I also tried doing that after pressing F9.
Attempting to drag Untitled Folder 3 into Untitled Folder 1, while in Exposé F9. When doing so, a gray and white circle with diagonal line through it (like you would see on a No Smoking sign) would be overtop the file and/or folder I was trying to drop. The sceenshot doesn't show the circle.
edit -- I see. It isn't an instantaneous drop (probably faster with an intel processor). With my computer, it takes a second for the folder to realize that I want to drop the file into it, then it does a quick blink and forefronts itself so I can drop the file into it.
Thx for the tip, kc.
i just ordered in tiger and my brother just bought vista for his laptop. now he is a big mac hater and ths will be my first time using one so how will my tiger look compared to vista with its cheap little effects?
just type some commands into your mac to get it to speak...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm
It works just like spring-loaded folders. The delay is intentional. If it happened instantaneously, it would be very annoying.
Yes, I agree, it would be annoying. However, it would be cool if there was a way to choose the recognition speed, because I tend to do things quite fast. But as physguy wrote, pressing the space bar instantly forefronts it, just as pressing the space bar instantly opens spring-loaded folders. But it would be nice if I were able to change the recognition speed, so the space bar wouldn't need to be used.
Yes, I agree, it would be annoying. However, it would be cool if there was a way to choose the recognition speed, because I tend to do things quite fast. But as physguy wrote, pressing the space bar instantly forefronts it, just as pressing the space bar instantly opens spring-loaded folders. But it would be nice if I were able to change the recognition speed, so the space bar wouldn't need to be used.
Well I found a reference to the following additional preferences/defaults for expose
wvous-showcorners
wvous-floater-style
wvous-maindisplay
wvous-olddesktop
wvous-spring-delay
wvous-spring
If I type
defaults write com.apple.doc wvous-spring -bool false
killall Dock
in a terminal window then the time delay to spring up goes to forever. Substituting true for false returns it to normal. Unfortunately either it doesn't actually use the wvous-spring-delay value or I don't know how to set it as typing
defaults write com.apple.doc wvous-spring-delay 1
killall Dock
has no effect. Maybe someone else can figure out the format (if any) of how to utilize the wvous-spring-delay.
defaults write com.apple.dock wvous-spring-delay -int 20
killall Dock
Where the 20, as best I can tell, is in milli-seconds. Obviously it won't go in 20 msec but I put 20, 200 and 2000 in for the number and didn't percieve much of a change before 2000 and then it was about a 2 second count.
Hope this helps.
Remember when people were worried that offering a command line interface in OS X would be the death of the "real" Mac? That lazy developers would start relying on obscure Unix stuff to implement functionality?
Instead, we get easy ways to tweak little things to our hearts content, like this tip and the one in another thread about changing the default behavior of iTunes.
Beats the hell out of having at things with Resedit from Classic days.
defaults write com.apple.dock wvous-spring-delay -int 20
killall Dock
Do I need to Restart the comp after? And where did you find that?
Do I need to Restart the comp after? And where did you find that?
No, you don't need to restart the computer the command 'killall Dock' will do that. Make sure that Dock is capitlized.
Google is your friend. I googled 'defaults write expose' and found that expose preference were in the com.apple.doc.plist file under the prefix wvous. I then googled defaults write wvous and found that listing.
Make sure that Dock is capitlized.
Google is your friend. I googled 'defaults write expose' and found that expose preference were in the com.apple.doc.plist file under the prefix wvous. I then googled defaults write wvous and found that listing.
I'm guessing you meant the "D" in "Dock" is supposed to be Caps, not the entire word. Okay. Yes, on most occasions, Google and I get along beautifully [laughing].
Thx for the info.