Blu-Ray on iTunes

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Ok I was thinking...



"The AppleTV is the DVD of the 21st century," said Steve Jobs. Well in order for the AppleTV to take over the living room of many houses, there is one thing they lacked and that was Blu-ray or HD movies/content on the iTunes online store.



The ability to download these high definition movies will of course be an increase of price... but then it would knock down the competition of DVD players samsung and many others that are creating 1000 dollar DVD players to play high definition movies.



I'm sure its not as easy to just put high definition movies, but with work I'm sure that they could...

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 13
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    I doubt we will see this any time soon. First, you have to consider that Blu-Ray discs hold up to 50GB of data or 25GB per layer, while HD-DVDs can hold up to 30GB of data or 15GB per layer.



    These movies take up an incredible amount of disk space and not only would they take an incredibly long time to download, but most people don't have the storage space to store even one movie, and you would more than likely be streaming the movie to Apple TV.



    If you have a Mac Pro with a 750GB Hard Drive (or even multiple large Hard Drives to have enough storage space to support a library of HD movies), a big screen TV, and an Apple TV, you can probably afford to buy a HD-DVD player or Blu-Ray player.
  • Reply 2 of 13
    kolchakkolchak Posts: 1,398member
    As I wrote in another topic, Apple should transplant the motherboard of the AppleTV into the Mac Mini case, add one of the upcoming slot-loading Blu-ray drives and call the new model AppleTV+. The big advantage to that is that it would centralize everything into one compact unit so people won't need some kind of switch for the limited input sources on their HDTVs. Even if a Blu-ray drive added $300 to the cost of an AppleTV, it'd be only as expensive as a PS3 or the cheapest standalone Blu-ray player.
  • Reply 3 of 13
    logantlogant Posts: 60member
    Well if they used H.264 compress on the movies, then it could be possible.
  • Reply 4 of 13
    kupan787kupan787 Posts: 586member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LoganT View Post


    Well if they used H.264 compress on the movies, then it could be possible.



    I have been reading over at doom9 that people have been able to compress down HD-DVD movies to 720P (from 1080P) and fit them onto a DVD-R (of course, this is just the movie, no extras and such). So if I had the option of downloading 720P (my TV is only 1080i) movies from iTunes for $10-15 I would consider it. I have comcast, so a 4GB download isn't a huge deal.



    I think it will be sometime before we see 1080P HD downloads though.
  • Reply 5 of 13
    kolchakkolchak Posts: 1,398member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LoganT View Post


    Well if they used H.264 compress on the movies, then it could be possible.



    With a few early exceptions, HD movies are already encoded with advanced codecs like h.264 and VC1 at their 15-25GB size.
  • Reply 6 of 13
    mr. memr. me Posts: 3,221member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dutchbjr View Post


    ... there is one thing they lacked and that was Blu-ray or HD movies/content on the iTunes online store.



    ....



    To illuminate Kolchak's point, you are operating on a false premise. Blu-ray is not a format, it is a medium. Blu-ray content is in MPEG-2, H.264, or WMV-HD or some other format. HD-DVD content is in these same formats. With the possible exception Windows Media, QuickTime and thus iTunes can handle all of these formats. (WMV9-HD support is available, but WMV10-HD and WMV11_HD are not.)



    The issue is one of bandwidth. With a Blu-ray disc holding 50 GB of content, downloading it over most people's broadband Internet connections will be a very slow and painful process. With a connection through high-speed broadband and an up-to-date iTunes, you should be set.
  • Reply 7 of 13
    filburtfilburt Posts: 398member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dutchbjr View Post


    Ok I was thinking...



    "The AppleTV is the DVD of the 21st century," said Steve Jobs. Well in order for the AppleTV to take over the living room of many houses, there is one thing they lacked and that was Blu-ray or HD movies/content on the iTunes online store.



    With stereo-only sound and lack of subtitle, I don't see how that's possible.
  • Reply 8 of 13
    wmfwmf Posts: 1,164member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kolchak View Post


    Apple should transplant the motherboard of the AppleTV into the Mac Mini case, add one of the upcoming slot-loading Blu-ray drives and call the new model AppleTV+.



    Except the AppleTV is not powerful enough to play Blu-ray movies.
  • Reply 9 of 13
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr. Me View Post


    With the possible exception Windows Media, QuickTime and thus iTunes can handle all of these formats.



    No they can't. HD-DVD and Blu-ray can use High Profile H.264 which QuickTime does not support (either to play-back or to encode). QuickTime only goes up to Main Profile.



    Wikipedia has good info on H.264. Have a read of the "profiles" section.
  • Reply 10 of 13
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr. Me View Post


    Blu-ray is not a format, it is a medium. Blu-ray content is in MPEG-2, H.264, or WMV-HD or some other format.



    The blu-ray and HD-DVD standards both specify three video codecs: MPEG-2, H.264 and VC-1 (which is based on WMV9). Other codecs are not supported.
  • Reply 11 of 13
    mr. memr. me Posts: 3,221member
    VC-1 is WMV-HD.
  • Reply 12 of 13
    kolchakkolchak Posts: 1,398member
    I think he might have been referring to "some other format" not being supported.
  • Reply 13 of 13
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kolchak View Post


    I think he might have been referring to "some other format" not being supported.



    Indeed. I was just trying to offer some clarification.
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