Windows to Mac sharing Scary
Hi,
Been an apple user for a couple of years now but do not know much about the inner workings networking etc.
Yesterday I had a friend here and we direct connected Via network cable his PC and my G4 he needed to give me a large file. I closed the fire wall turned on file sharing for windows sort of opened up the system.
He went into his system and created an IP address of my computer and logged in fine. Basically sending me files, and copying others no problem.
My question is:
I could not see him in my finder or any where else yet he could see me. Thats a bit scary I thought Macs were good at net working onto all sorts of networks and seeing everyone else.
Is there a tool or place or program I should look at to make finder show up his computer on my system. (He did turn on visibility at his end)
I have an old PC which i fired up, and after about 3mins this shows up in finder.
I was looking at network utility and netinfo manager. Netinfo manager looks like leave it alone. Network utility do not really know what I am looking at and the terminal window using unix not familliar there either.
Powerbook G4 768mb Mac 10.4.9
Many thanks in advance...
Been an apple user for a couple of years now but do not know much about the inner workings networking etc.
Yesterday I had a friend here and we direct connected Via network cable his PC and my G4 he needed to give me a large file. I closed the fire wall turned on file sharing for windows sort of opened up the system.
He went into his system and created an IP address of my computer and logged in fine. Basically sending me files, and copying others no problem.
My question is:
I could not see him in my finder or any where else yet he could see me. Thats a bit scary I thought Macs were good at net working onto all sorts of networks and seeing everyone else.
Is there a tool or place or program I should look at to make finder show up his computer on my system. (He did turn on visibility at his end)
I have an old PC which i fired up, and after about 3mins this shows up in finder.
I was looking at network utility and netinfo manager. Netinfo manager looks like leave it alone. Network utility do not really know what I am looking at and the terminal window using unix not familliar there either.
Powerbook G4 768mb Mac 10.4.9
Many thanks in advance...
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My question is:
I could not see him in my finder or any where else yet he could see me. Thats a bit scary I thought Macs were good at net working onto all sorts of networks and seeing everyone else.
Did he have his firewall on? PC users tend to have some sort of firewall installed. Also, computers don't always show up in the Network browser, which is a bit of a pain. Where I work, we have quite a few Macs and they don't all show up but if you type in the IP, it connects to the machine.
Netinfo manager looks like leave it alone.
Yes, don't touch the Netinfo manager. I think Apple should change the name of this because people assume it's to do with networking. You can actually delete your admin privileges and lock yourself out of your own account with this program. You can put it back by logging in as root but it's best not to open it.
Network utility do not really know what I am looking at and the terminal window using unix not familliar there either.
I don't think that has a network mapper. You can use an app like this:
http://homepage.mac.com/natritmeyer/
The command line version is what they used in The Matrix film when trying to shut down the electrical grid.
Did he have his firewall on? PC users tend to have some sort of firewall installed. Also, computers don't always show up in the Network browser, which is a bit of a pain. Where I work, we have quite a few Macs and they don't all show up but if you type in the IP, it connects to the machine.
Hi I am not sure but I think he said to me he had it turned off and wide open!
I don't think that has a network mapper. You can use an app like this:
http://homepage.mac.com/natritmeyer/
The command line version is what they used in The Matrix film when trying to shut down the electrical grid.
I have downloaded this program looks impressive, however i am not sure when it asks for a target, what i am meant to type in there, is it the name of the computer or the hard disk or something else?
Thanks for your patience...
In a roundabout way, its to do with the way windows gives permissions to files and directories. Windows defines its permissions based on the user-account thats trying to do something to the file.
Your mac is not registered as a user, so Windows will give it nothing. If you create a user account in Windows for the Mac, and give it a username/password, then the MAC should be able to login to the Windows IP with that and then start seeing files.
But, you also have to specifically share folders within windows. So you set a folder to be allowed to be shared, and then set which user accounts can access it, and of those user accounts, what each account is allowed to do ( so you can even specify that one account can read only, while another can write )
So if you only set 1 folder to be shared, when the Mac logs in with its user account, the only folder the Mac will see, is that 1 shared folder ( and any of its subdirectories. ) Its advisable to only share a folder which you can then stick files into to be pulled from the Mac. Sharing the C
So despite all the hoo-hah of viruses and what not on Windows, its actually *fairly* well locked down unless you specifically open it up to others, and even then, you have a reasonable amount of control over what other people in the network can see of the Windows machine.
Windows XP & Vista sharing just plain work! WTF is wrong with Apple? ... and I am NOT a Microsoft fanboy by any means.
I have downloaded this program looks impressive, however i am not sure when it asks for a target, what i am meant to type in there, is it the name of the computer or the hard disk or something else?
You can type in your local network IP base address with a wildcard and it will scan all the computers connected locally.
The option I think you may want to use is the tab that says OS and services detection. There is a check box enabling OS detection. That requires a root password though and XNmap doesn't ask for one. You can use the command line direct though and just use sudo. If you are on an Intel machine, there is a universal binary somewhere too. XNmap includes a PPC one.
An example would be if I am on 192.168.2.3 and I want to scan for other computers, I would type in something like:
sudo nmap -OA 192.168.2.*
hit return and enter your password. If you want more info about what it's doing, you can use the -v option. It will take a little while to scan.
That command will return the IP addresses that are active on the local network and what operating system they are running. It even tells you info about your router.