i am hoping for bochs to be up and running on os x 10.3, an apple version of VPC in every mac.....one more dig at that 800 pound gorilla, steve ballmer...i mean, microsoft
true...and 10.2 is very nice...so i see little reason to pay for 10.3...so i am looking to see how can apple make 10.3 so good that i want to buy it....
i probably would like a simple VPC type program built in...i would rarely use it, but it would be great for switchers and just nice to have as i am sure apple would do a great job with it (at least by version 2...we know version 1 will be slow and buggy..ha)
what would make me buy 10.3 for my iMac FP 800 if it is mostly for improvements to run the new PM 970 chips running at 64??
so, to make us old machine humans up-grade, what do i need, but don't know i need untill apple unveils it??
More speed (not that 10.2 isn't fast enough, but I'm spoiled by the rate of progress of previous releases ), a generous application of overall spit and polish, Carbon and Cocoa fully integrated, AppleScript 2, and metadata. Oh, and a less flaky Developer Tools than the current one, although that's admittedly not likely to be specific to 10.3.
what can apple put in 10.3 that makes me (and my slow-witted kind) go, ohhhh, i gotta get that??
yes speed is always nice, but i want to see something i didn't even think about, but then suddenly makes me go, "dang, i can't live without that"....sort of like viagra.... :eek:
1. Much faster (as fast as OS 9 while both single tasking and multitasking)
2. More Mac-like, less UNIX-like. I'd love the option to run it just like the classic OS - single user, put your documents wherever you want, categorize your applications within your applications folder, etc. Apple has smart programmers, they'll figure out how to do this if they want to.
3. Some GUI tools for various CLI things... every now and then, you have to tell a newbie to go into terminal and type something, and it's a scary, new thing. It would be nice if Apple added a "Terminal GUI" into their Utilities folder, letting you do basic stuff like fsck and rm without having to type it all into the terminal.
4. Better, faster, stronger help system. Mainly faster. Like, 10x or 20x faster.
5. Option to turn the dock off. Sure, you can put it on the side of the screen with just two icons and at minimum size with hiding on, but it'll still come back to bug you. Some people just don't like it, let them turn it off and use a third party add-on.
6. Building from #5, they should be more accepting of third parties who want to make enhancements to OS X. It can only help them. If Apple makes it easy to develop little enhancers and utilities for OS X, they will generate a lot more interest among small-time programmers who want to do something. As it is now, it's a bit of a daunting task to do anything to modify OS X because Apple purposely makes it really hard. I'd like built in icon customization, themes, custom alert sounds, etc. They make it easy to do screen savers, why not do it with other aspects?
7. Rendezvous actually IMPLEMENTED in areas that you'll notice. They made such a big deal about Rendezvous last MWNY, and I still haven't even seen it outside iChat. What ever happened to Rendezvous-enabled iTunes? Did it just disappear or something? That was freaking seven months ago!
8. Read and write access to FTP servers through Finder. I have RBrowser Lite for FTP (it's free and easy to use) but if it was integrated with the finder it would be even easier.
9. I would kinda like it if the terminal would autocomplete the names of files, folders, applications, etc, when you press tab. That's how the lab computers for my Java lab work... I don't know what version of Unix they run, but I do like that tab thing, a big time saver.
10. In the same vein as the "One-click enhance" from iPhoto, I'd like a "Custom dynamic equalizer" for iTunes. One which listens to the music and automatically equalizes as the song progresses, enhancing the music while minimizing the Sounds of Static.
<strong>1. Much faster (as fast as OS 9 while both single tasking and multitasking)</strong><hr></blockquote>
MacOS X never single tasks.
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2. More Mac-like, less UNIX-like. I'd love the option to run it just like the classic OS - single user, put your documents wherever you want, categorize your applications within your applications folder, etc. Apple has smart programmers, they'll figure out how to do this if they want to.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Apple has smart users, they'll figure out how to use the system if they want to...
Sorry, I *have* my apps categorized, and except for my 'hard drive' from 9 being at ~<username> instead of the top level (which is completely irrelevant with that nice Home button on the Finder windows, and the ability to have new windows open up there by default), it's basically the same.
ie, don't hold your breath.
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3. Some GUI tools for various CLI things... every now and then, you have to tell a newbie to go into terminal and type something, and it's a scary, new thing. It would be nice if Apple added a "Terminal GUI" into their Utilities folder, letting you do basic stuff like fsck and rm without having to type it all into the terminal.</strong><hr></blockquote>
fsck: Disk Utility (it just runs fsck, after all)
rm: Finder
Oh, you meant for removing files the average user shouldn't. I don't see having a mild barrier being a problem. Heck, if it bothers you that much, whip up an AppleScript Studio applet that uses sudo rm -rf on anything dropped in it's panel.
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5. Option to turn the dock off. Sure, you can put it on the side of the screen with just two icons and at minimum size with hiding on, but it'll still come back to bug you. Some people just don't like it, let them turn it off and use a third party add-on.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It would be nice to see them support further enhancements like they let you select which mailer, which browser, etc. Have core AppleScript functionality that "If your app conforms to these messages, you can replace app <foo>".
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9. I would kinda like it if the terminal would autocomplete the names of files, folders, applications, etc, when you press tab. That's how the lab computers for my Java lab work... I don't know what version of Unix they run, but I do like that tab thing, a big time saver.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Er, use tcsh as your shell. Voila.
ctrl-D to see possible selections, tab to complete.
5. Option to turn the dock off. Sure, you can put it on the side of the screen with just two icons and at minimum size with hiding on, but it'll still come back to bug you. Some people just don't like it, let them turn it off and use a third party add-on.
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You can write an apple script to kill the dock, or kill the dock in terminal... remove dock.app from coreservices and see what happens.
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7. Rendezvous actually IMPLEMENTED in areas that you'll notice. They made such a big deal about Rendezvous last MWNY, and I still haven't even seen it outside iChat. What ever happened to Rendezvous-enabled iTunes? Did it just disappear or something? That was freaking seven months ago!
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Well it's in Safari now as well. Though what ever happend to iTunes... I want that...
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8. Read and write access to FTP servers through Finder. I have RBrowser Lite for FTP (it's free and easy to use) but if it was integrated with the finder it would be even easier.
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This exists already, and I think it actually works in 10.2.4... just go to go -> connect to server and type in the ftp addy
I'd also like some themeing ability and some use for the Network thing which is at the directory your hard drive is. And C'mon, WINDOW RESIZING! Sooo slow...
For a true single user OS 9-style of hard drive layout, I think this could be done in the Finder by appearances only witout having to re-engineer all of unix. In other words, they could make it look like your Desktop, Documents, Pictures, etc. folders are at the top level of the hard drive when under the hood they're still under users:home:xyz folder. I'm sure some purists would throw fits but, really, does it matter?
I'm beginning to think that OSX 10.3 won't be a $129 OS upgrade but rather maybe a $69 upgrade with some new features and functionality but nothing groundbreaking.
It seems like Apple is really going to have to do something nice to get people to fork out the money.
Extend Unicode support for additional languages. They added Arabic and Hebrew with 10.2. Let's add Hindi and some others. That could help the international market, as small as it is for Apple.
I would need great TWAIN support, SCSI support, and (wishing but not going to happen) old PCI video card support. (3dfx Voodoo 5) <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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This is a GOOD thing!
Dave
i probably would like a simple VPC type program built in...i would rarely use it, but it would be great for switchers and just nice to have as i am sure apple would do a great job with it (at least by version 2...we know version 1 will be slow and buggy..ha)
what would make me buy 10.3 for my iMac FP 800 if it is mostly for improvements to run the new PM 970 chips running at 64??
so, to make us old machine humans up-grade, what do i need, but don't know i need untill apple unveils it??
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[ 02-28-2003: Message edited by: thegelding ]</p>
More speed (not that 10.2 isn't fast enough, but I'm spoiled by the rate of progress of previous releases
I'd be happy then. Heh.
what can apple put in 10.3 that makes me (and my slow-witted kind) go, ohhhh, i gotta get that??
yes speed is always nice, but i want to see something i didn't even think about, but then suddenly makes me go, "dang, i can't live without that"....sort of like viagra.... :eek:
g
2. More Mac-like, less UNIX-like. I'd love the option to run it just like the classic OS - single user, put your documents wherever you want, categorize your applications within your applications folder, etc. Apple has smart programmers, they'll figure out how to do this if they want to.
3. Some GUI tools for various CLI things... every now and then, you have to tell a newbie to go into terminal and type something, and it's a scary, new thing. It would be nice if Apple added a "Terminal GUI" into their Utilities folder, letting you do basic stuff like fsck and rm without having to type it all into the terminal.
4. Better, faster, stronger help system. Mainly faster. Like, 10x or 20x faster.
5. Option to turn the dock off. Sure, you can put it on the side of the screen with just two icons and at minimum size with hiding on, but it'll still come back to bug you. Some people just don't like it, let them turn it off and use a third party add-on.
6. Building from #5, they should be more accepting of third parties who want to make enhancements to OS X. It can only help them. If Apple makes it easy to develop little enhancers and utilities for OS X, they will generate a lot more interest among small-time programmers who want to do something. As it is now, it's a bit of a daunting task to do anything to modify OS X because Apple purposely makes it really hard. I'd like built in icon customization, themes, custom alert sounds, etc. They make it easy to do screen savers, why not do it with other aspects?
7. Rendezvous actually IMPLEMENTED in areas that you'll notice. They made such a big deal about Rendezvous last MWNY, and I still haven't even seen it outside iChat. What ever happened to Rendezvous-enabled iTunes? Did it just disappear or something? That was freaking seven months ago!
8. Read and write access to FTP servers through Finder. I have RBrowser Lite for FTP (it's free and easy to use) but if it was integrated with the finder it would be even easier.
9. I would kinda like it if the terminal would autocomplete the names of files, folders, applications, etc, when you press tab. That's how the lab computers for my Java lab work... I don't know what version of Unix they run, but I do like that tab thing, a big time saver.
10. In the same vein as the "One-click enhance" from iPhoto, I'd like a "Custom dynamic equalizer" for iTunes. One which listens to the music and automatically equalizes as the song progresses, enhancing the music while minimizing the Sounds of Static.
<strong>1. Much faster (as fast as OS 9 while both single tasking and multitasking)</strong><hr></blockquote>
MacOS X never single tasks.
[quote]<strong>
2. More Mac-like, less UNIX-like. I'd love the option to run it just like the classic OS - single user, put your documents wherever you want, categorize your applications within your applications folder, etc. Apple has smart programmers, they'll figure out how to do this if they want to.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Apple has smart users, they'll figure out how to use the system if they want to...
Sorry, I *have* my apps categorized, and except for my 'hard drive' from 9 being at ~<username> instead of the top level (which is completely irrelevant with that nice Home button on the Finder windows, and the ability to have new windows open up there by default), it's basically the same.
ie, don't hold your breath.
[quote]<strong>
3. Some GUI tools for various CLI things... every now and then, you have to tell a newbie to go into terminal and type something, and it's a scary, new thing. It would be nice if Apple added a "Terminal GUI" into their Utilities folder, letting you do basic stuff like fsck and rm without having to type it all into the terminal.</strong><hr></blockquote>
fsck: Disk Utility (it just runs fsck, after all)
rm: Finder
Oh, you meant for removing files the average user shouldn't. I don't see having a mild barrier being a problem. Heck, if it bothers you that much, whip up an AppleScript Studio applet that uses sudo rm -rf on anything dropped in it's panel.
[quote]<strong>
5. Option to turn the dock off. Sure, you can put it on the side of the screen with just two icons and at minimum size with hiding on, but it'll still come back to bug you. Some people just don't like it, let them turn it off and use a third party add-on.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It would be nice to see them support further enhancements like they let you select which mailer, which browser, etc. Have core AppleScript functionality that "If your app conforms to these messages, you can replace app <foo>".
[quote]<strong>
9. I would kinda like it if the terminal would autocomplete the names of files, folders, applications, etc, when you press tab. That's how the lab computers for my Java lab work... I don't know what version of Unix they run, but I do like that tab thing, a big time saver.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Er, use tcsh as your shell. Voila.
ctrl-D to see possible selections, tab to complete.
[ 02-28-2003: Message edited by: Kickaha ]</p>
5. Option to turn the dock off. Sure, you can put it on the side of the screen with just two icons and at minimum size with hiding on, but it'll still come back to bug you. Some people just don't like it, let them turn it off and use a third party add-on.
<hr></blockquote></strong>
You can write an apple script to kill the dock, or kill the dock in terminal... remove dock.app from coreservices and see what happens.
[quote]<strong>
7. Rendezvous actually IMPLEMENTED in areas that you'll notice. They made such a big deal about Rendezvous last MWNY, and I still haven't even seen it outside iChat. What ever happened to Rendezvous-enabled iTunes? Did it just disappear or something? That was freaking seven months ago!
<hr></blockquote></strong>
Well it's in Safari now as well. Though what ever happend to iTunes... I want that...
[quote]<strong>
8. Read and write access to FTP servers through Finder. I have RBrowser Lite for FTP (it's free and easy to use) but if it was integrated with the finder it would be even easier.
<hr></blockquote></strong>
This exists already, and I think it actually works in 10.2.4... just go to go -> connect to server and type in the ftp addy
I'd also like some themeing ability and some use for the Network thing which is at the directory your hard drive is. And C'mon, WINDOW RESIZING! Sooo slow...
It seems like Apple is really going to have to do something nice to get people to fork out the money.
A new 'Connect too..' dialog!
[ 03-01-2003: Message edited by: gobble gobble ]</p>