Apple's arrogance

sequitur

Apple should wake up and give users what they want instead of what Apple thinks is best for users. AI members feel that way about the xMac.



What arrogance! This article points that out:

Apple began working with the U.S. retail chain Best Buy in the spring of 2006 on a pilot project to obtain shelf space for Macs. Given Apple's long, tempestuous history with many retail chains, restoring trust has been tough. In 1999, Best Buy dropped the Mac when Apple continued to ship models and colors that pleased itself, and not those ordered by Best Buy.



The article that contained the above segment is 'Did Apple muff Mac's big chance?

'http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/16/news/digi17.php

guybrush threepwood

Selfish Apple.



It's never good when you only want to please yourself and not your partner...

splinemodel

I guess the demand must be so high that Best Buy is willing to undergo what appears to be pain in the ass of working with Apple. Not much of a problem with colors anymore, though. iPod nanos are it.



Save the "xMac" crap for future hardware. Other than a circle jerk group of about ten guys here, it doesn't seem that anyone is terribly interested.

marvin

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Originally Posted by Splinemodel


Save the "xMac" crap for future hardware. Other than a circle jerk group of about ten guys here, it doesn't seem that anyone is terribly interested.

Of course it doesn't seem that more than a 'circle jerk' group of about two guys are actively disinterested in it.

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Originally Posted by sequitur


Apple should wake up and give users what they want instead of what Apple thinks is best for users.

Yes they should and thanks for posting the article because it is starting to paint a picture of what is really wrong with Apple. I constantly think to myself when they come out with the coolest software, gadgets, operating system and hardware designs (minus the iMac) they are still so unpopular in the computer industry.



When Steve was on stage with Bill Gates, he mentioned how one of Apple's failures was not partnering well unlike Microsoft. Their arrogance was likely their downfall in those ventures too.



It must be tough I guess if you are the 'little' guy because you don't want to fold in every negotiation otherwise you become a weak target but obvious customer demand is different and not something to mess with or you're just asking for trouble.

polarissucks

you know what, i like apples arogance, sure they may make you mad at times, but its what gives us great products, they will eventually prob have somthin like an xmac, apple is not affraid to tell people whats what, a lot of times what they do seems stupid at first, its either not, or they fix it and appoligize for it, they dont lie and whoos out about it and leave it the same. if apple felt the need right now for the xmac, it would be out, who knows, they may be designing it right now... now. ...now

splinemodel

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Originally Posted by polarissucks


you know what, i like apples arogance, sure they may make you mad at times, but its what gives us great products, they will eventually prob have somthin like an xmac, apple is not affraid to tell people whats what, a lot of times what they do seems stupid at first, its either not, or they fix it and appoligize for it, they dont lie and whoos out about it and leave it the same. if apple felt the need right now for the xmac, it would be out, who knows, they may be designing it right now... now. ...now

Well put. It's one thing to be arrogant and make poor products. It's an interesting argument that Apple's arrogance is what leads to their greatness, and it's one that actually makes sense. You are your own biggest critic.



Anyway, I guarantee Apple has a reason for not producing the "xMac." I guarantee they hit the case studies and have made predictions, roadmaps, and analyses. That's without question. If it beats you up so much, there's still not really anything the rest of us can do about it.

murk

Over in the Future Hardware Forum, in an attempt to be funny, I implied that I am still using OS 9 . Just typing the phrase "OS 9" made me remember all the whining and bitching about the new OS X. Typing the phrase "whining and bitching" unleashes a torrent of other memories of, well, whining and bitching. Remember the things we said about the original iPod? About every OS update? By our account every new computer seems tragically crippled. It really never stops. To our negativity add the doomsday prognostications of hundreds of articles like the one linked above, or ones about each new generation of iPod killer, or the current saga of the iPhone with its limitations. Despite all of this, one thing remains true: Steve is always right. How do I know? Simple, really... I look at the company and the value of my stock. Maybe his decisions haven't been right for each of us, but they have been right for Apple and for an ever larger pool of consumers around the world. If you are not happy, there are plenty of other computers, media players and phones out there. Give 'em a whirl. Perhaps by the time you come back, Steve will decide that what you wanted was part of his vision after all. In the fullness of time, Grasshopper.

hiro

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Originally Posted by Guybrush Threepwood


Selfish Apple.



It's never good when you only want to please yourself and not your partner...

I'm surprised that a totally subjective comment with no further support in a commentary that definitely has the Apples pooch is screwed tenor means much. The only thing Apple has shipped in colors since Best Buy began partnering is the Nano and Shuffle. Black MacBooks hardly even count there. Pretty small potatoes to compare against especially since the article was about Macs, not iPods. So what was the authors point again?