Streaming Video - Safari on iPhone?

redheadrileyredheadriley
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in iPhone edited January 2014
As I don't "yet" have an iPhone but have talked it up to all my friends and clients. I took the time to try one out today and was extreamly disappointed on the functionality of one application: Safari The one application that I expected to be the happiest with next to mail.



Steve Said "The Real Internet".-



I do security systems and planned to have several clients use iPhones rather than laptops to view and control the security cameras. NOT!



Safari and Netscape support server push and therefore do not need java for streamed video.



On the iPhone, going to the "name of domain":8000 takes me to the web server like it is supposed to do but then continues "loading" until I get "server quit" or "server timed out"



Any ideas? - I do not think that port 8000 is blocked on the ATT store network but will check tomorrow just to be sure.



With Safari on a Mac Mini with a good connection this method yields great video and even on dialup it works well enough for you to get a full screen still photo about every 40 seconds.



This was on Edge, not Wi-Fi though I do not think it would make a difference.



Riley

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 11
    notoriousnotorious Posts: 57member
    What is the format of the stream? it has to be mpeg 4 or h.264. I can stream from my mac to my iphone only problem is on edge alone i get time outs all the time. Hook into ATT's wifi at the store and try it then.
  • Reply 2 of 11
    redheadrileyredheadriley Posts: 3member
    I will be at the Austin Apple store in a day or two and try it there where I can ask someone with more info that the guys at ATT had.

    The thing is, it works great even on dialup. The Connectin seems to fail on the iPhone for some rreason never even gives a still



    Thanks Riley
  • Reply 3 of 11
    taskisstaskiss Posts: 1,212member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RedHeadRiley View Post


    Any ideas? - I do not think that port 8000 is blocked on the ATT store network but will check tomorrow just to be sure.



    Buy an iPhone and if you can't get it to work within the 14 day return period, return it. It'll cost you $40.00 but that's not a big deal if your plans include a commercial application. You also have something like 30 days to cancel your AT&T account. Check and make sure those return policies are still in effect though, I'm sure they're subject to change.
  • Reply 4 of 11
    notoriousnotorious Posts: 57member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RedHeadRiley View Post


    I will be at the Austin Apple store in a day or two and try it there where I can ask someone with more info that the guys at ATT had.

    The thing is, it works great even on dialup. The Connectin seems to fail on the iPhone for some rreason never even gives a still



    Thanks Riley



    Video is definetly bandwidth intensive though. Edge doesn't really cut it for video.
  • Reply 5 of 11
    redheadrileyredheadriley Posts: 3member
    Thanks for the info. Yea, I found out it is the slowness of Edge. Works fine on Wi-Fi. For those that want to try it, the site is at:SecuritySpy.com and for the demo direct (guest and guest) go to: http://benbird.homeip.net:8000/
  • Reply 6 of 11
    notoriousnotorious Posts: 57member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RedHeadRiley View Post


    Thanks for the info. Yea, I found out it is the slowness of Edge. Works fine on Wi-Fi. For those that want to try it, the site is at:SecuritySpy.com and for the demo direct (guest and guest) go to: http://benbird.homeip.net:8000/



    Thats pretty cool. Glad you got it to work.
  • Reply 7 of 11
    kkehlerkkehler Posts: 10member
    I know where you live!!!!! Na that is cool that it works though.
  • Reply 8 of 11
    jimyjimy Posts: 1member
    Hi ....



    I am a new person in this Forum and I have visited your web-link " http://benbird.homeip.net:8000/ ". It's a really nice work.



    I am also working on same thing at my master Project. Can you please help me How Can I see Live streaming video from IP Camera ? Can you please send me an example code for that so I can see live Video stream on iPhone.



    Email Id : [email protected]



    Thanxs in Advance.



    Modi Jaymin.
  • Reply 9 of 11
    vijaybandekarvijaybandekar Posts: 2member
    Are you looking for Streaming Web application customized for iPhone Safari? What is your MS project? IP cameras will deliver streams in specific CODECS, which you will need to convert to h.264. I am not sure how this is handled on Mac OS. Perhaps, QuikTime Streaming server that comes with Mac OS and Broadcaster. Then you will need a browser application... I hope this helps.



    Any experts out there that have doen something similar? How does the push happens on Safari? Any examples I can see?





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jimy View Post


    Hi ....



    I am a new person in this Forum and I have visited your web-link " http://benbird.homeip.net:8000/ ". It's a really nice work.



    I am also working on same thing at my master Project. Can you please help me How Can I see Live streaming video from IP Camera ? Can you please send me an example code for that so I can see live Video stream on iPhone.



    Email Id : [email protected]



    Thanxs in Advance.



    Modi Jaymin.



  • Reply 10 of 11
    vijaybandekarvijaybandekar Posts: 2member
    I tried the ite with Safari with "server push"; I would like to understand this better and ask you for some tips. I saw the following HTML piece by doing "View Source":

    <img src="++video?cameraNum=3&30674" width=752 height=576 alt="Street 2">

    I assume you have streaming source here that perhaps generates QuickTime movie. would appreciate if you would give me some tips. You probably noticed that I am a novice to this. Thanks.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RedHeadRiley View Post


    Thanks for the info. Yea, I found out it is the slowness of Edge. Works fine on Wi-Fi. For those that want to try it, the site is at:SecuritySpy.com and for the demo direct (guest and guest) go to: http://benbird.homeip.net:8000/



  • Reply 11 of 11
    philginphilgin Posts: 1member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vijaybandekar View Post


    I tried the ite with Safari with "server push"; I would like to understand this better and ask you for some tips. I saw the following HTML piece by doing "View Source":

    <img src="++video?cameraNum=3&30674" width=752 height=576 alt="Street 2">

    I assume you have streaming source here that perhaps generates QuickTime movie. would appreciate if you would give me some tips. You probably noticed that I am a novice to this. Thanks.



    I have tried it myself and from what I understand, server push is an MJpeg (Motion Jpeg - NOT mpeg or mp4 or h.264) stream. It is similar to the javascript refresh except that the images are being pushed from the streaming server rather than being pulled (as in javascript refresh). It's actually just a series of jpegs.



    And yes, the server has a backend webapp. As with mine, it uses a cgi script.



    I hope that helps.
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