iPhone 2 - January 2008
Macworld.co.uk (via SmartOffice) are reporting that a new version of the iPhone is expected in time for MWSF 2008. Significant Hardware and Software changes are expected.
http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itune...m?newsid=19346
Do you guys think this is a possibility? One year from the iPhone Introduction. I live in the UK and my phone is dead on its ass, I am going to purchase an iPhone but this could delay my purr-chase-ing activities.
I'm not too sure how valuable a 1G iPhone will be on eBay come January due to the lock-in etc.
Possibilities:
Extended WiFi Capabilities
iChat
16Gb Capacity
GPS
* No 3G due to the investment in EDGE (especially in the UK); unless Apple want the EDGE support as 'an absolute minimum' backup service for a 3G rollout
http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itune...m?newsid=19346
Do you guys think this is a possibility? One year from the iPhone Introduction. I live in the UK and my phone is dead on its ass, I am going to purchase an iPhone but this could delay my purr-chase-ing activities.
I'm not too sure how valuable a 1G iPhone will be on eBay come January due to the lock-in etc.
Possibilities:
Extended WiFi Capabilities
iChat
16Gb Capacity
GPS
* No 3G due to the investment in EDGE (especially in the UK); unless Apple want the EDGE support as 'an absolute minimum' backup service for a 3G rollout
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Macworld.co.uk (via SmartOffice) are reporting that a new version of the iPhone is expected in time for MWSF 2008. Significant Hardware and Software changes are expected.
http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itune...m?newsid=19346
Do you guys think this is a possibility? One year from the iPhone Introduction. I live in the UK and my phone is dead on its ass, I am going to purchase an iPhone but this could delay my purr-chase-ing activities.
I'm not too sure how valuable a 1G iPhone will be on eBay come January due to the lock-in etc.
Possibilities:
Extended WiFi Capabilities
iChat
16Gb Capacity
GPS
* No 3G due to the investment in EDGE (especially in the UK); unless Apple want the EDGE support as 'an absolute minimum' backup service for a 3G rollout
Well, because of the way things work in the industry you know there will be a second generation device, you know it will have hardware and software differences, the only question is when. I'm of the opinion that you'll still have the lock-in to consider no matter which gen device you get.
I had intended to wait 'till the next gen system came out before getting one but my wife bought one for me as a present with the understanding that I'll still get the next one (or the one after that) and give her the one I presently enjoy carrying around. You'll have to consider what you'll do with the "older" system if you get one, but I'd guess you should be able to recoup half your purchase price, at least.
And as for the 3G - I use my phone from my home wi-fi as well as the edge network and for the stuff like Google maps and mail there's not all that much of a difference. Oh, when you go to satellite view and such, but the basic functionality experience doesn't seem affected by the slower EDGE connection. It comes up in a blink of the eye with the faster connection and two blinks with the slower.
Well, because of the way things work in the industry you know there will be a second generation device, you know it will have hardware and software differences, the only question is when. I'm of the opinion that you'll still have the lock-in to consider no matter which gen device you get.
I had intended to wait 'till the next gen system came out before getting one but my wife bought one for me as a present with the understanding that I'll still get the next one (or the one after that) and give her the one I presently enjoy carrying around.
Haha, can't beat hand-me-downs
I do the same thing with my GF. I upgrade and she gets mine.
Well, because of the way things work in the industry you know there will be a second generation device, you know it will have hardware and software differences, the only question is when. I'm of the opinion that you'll still have the lock-in to consider no matter which gen device you get.
I had intended to wait 'till the next gen system came out before getting one but my wife bought one for me as a present with the understanding that I'll still get the next one (or the one after that) and give her the one I presently enjoy carrying around.
Of course and It's really cool that you can give yours to your wife!
I expect iphone2 to be announced in Jan. Jobs said at the UK launch thagt he wouldnt have 3g chipsets for 18 months so i guess if Apple follow the same plan as releasing the iphone like they did for the 1st one (usa then uk 6 months later) then it would be 18 months come xmas 2008.
Good point, he could simply announce the G2 iPhone again before the FCC get their hands on it. That way Apple have got a new kick ass model for the Asian market in mid 08 as promised and we get a nice rev2 product around summer/fall.
Good point, he could simply announce the G2 iPhone again before the FCC get their hands on it. That way Apple have got a new kick ass model for the Asian market in mid 08 as promised and we get a nice rev2 product around summer/fall.
Well, he can't really announce an upgrade and expect to keep selling the existing model. I'd guess that an additional model could be added to the product line and sell for more cash.
Well, he can't really announce an upgrade and expect to keep selling the existing model. I'd guess that an additional model could be added to the product line and sell for more cash.
You're absolutely right, it would have to be an additional model. Probably in the previous $599 slot
You're absolutely right, it would have to be an additional model. Probably in the previous $599 slot
It will be just a storage bump. 16GB, that is all. Just my opinion. I don't expect iPhone 2 to be here until August '08 myself.
In other words, given that having purchased my first iPhone in July 2007 commits me to AT&T until July 2009, if I buy a hypothetical iPhone in July 2008, does AT&T demand lock-in until July 2010, or tack the entire two years on the the end of the previous commitment, expecting me to agree to a contract that ends in July 2011?
It will be just a storage bump. 16GB, that is all. Just my opinion. I don't expect iPhone 2 to be here until August '08 myself.
I agree. It'll be a simple capacity increase to fall in line with the new iPods. Possibly even surprise everyone with a 24GB or 32GB version.
Possibly even surprise everyone with a 24GB or 32GB version.
Especially the early adopters!
What I wonder about is how the service contract stuff works if I upgrade my iPhone, say a year after I bought the first one. Would the two year commitment be treated as consecutive or concurrent?
In other words, given that having purchased my first iPhone in July 2007 commits me to AT&T until July 2009, if I buy a hypothetical iPhone in July 2008, does AT&T demand lock-in until July 2010, or tack the entire two years on the the end of the previous commitment, expecting me to agree to a contract that ends in July 2011?
A wild guess: our AT&T contract is for two years... it says nothing about the device. You commit to X minutes, then add $20 for unlimited data. Number portability when you replace your phone.
BUT... if you give your current iphone to girl friend / wife -- they have to have a contract with AT&T. You could probably add them to your contract but that might extend your contract another two years...
Who Cares!!! You can not unlock the phone and move to another carrier. The AT&T/Apple deal is for xxx years (I assume five) so Verizon will continue to pedal its narly phones while AT&T has the exclusive.
I expect iphone2 to be announced in Jan. Jobs said at the UK launch thagt he wouldnt have 3g chipsets for 18 months so i guess if Apple follow the same plan as releasing the iphone like they did for the 1st one (usa then uk 6 months later) then it would be 18 months come xmas 2008.
Too Zune?
Plus, I would think, a few more hardware improvements to justify a higher price bracket (faster processor?), since Apple will be likely to backport software enhancements to the previous generation, given the emphasis they have put on SW upgradability as a selling point.
If it does come in Jan, there is no way it will have a 3G radio, since bringing out such a model a few months after Apple has started selling their 2.5G phone in Europe would make the price drop insanity look like a polite exchange of ideas.
Well, he can't really announce an upgrade and expect to keep selling the existing model. I'd guess that an additional model could be added to the product line and sell for more cash.
Well, when they turn it over to the FCC it's gonna leak wht the thing looks like. At least if the announce it they get the publicity. Besides, people will still walk into stores and make an impulse purchase, or their phones will die and they'll need new ones. Not everybody surfs appleinsider, so there will still be a bunch of people ignorant of the new model's approach.
But I think they have entered a product space that changes faster than that of either the computer or digital music player ... so they are going to need to introduce newer models and more features faster then on the iPod or PC lines. This is probably compounded by the fact they are less established than some of the other players as well.
As for the exclusivity, doesn't AT&T have the rights to the existing model only? Whose to say other carries aren't going to want in on this action if there's another?
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Only works with hacked iPhones for now.
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My guess is a new iPhone every 6 to 8 months---
That would be the smart move in the mobile phone market, yes, but Apple is new to the mobile phone market and may try and stick with once a year updates like the iPod line.
Apple is, however, in the interesting position where any iPhone model can enter at $499-599 price range and they can keep selling the current model at $399 as software will be the same on both?the new iPhone offering only hardware improvements such as 3G or GPS (which make Google Maps even better, but that's a small difference).
Next round? Revision B drops to $399 (or $349) and Revision C enters at $449-549.