Career change selling Macs to SM biz?

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AI-ers- I've been a b2b sales guy for many years and make a decent living. Bought a iMac for the family last Christmas and frankly it changed my life. Super corny I know, but it has. That and I invested in the stock in the winter and well that's been a good development too.



Anway, I thought I'd ask the collaborative members of this site a career question. Can a guy who has been pretty good at sales for 15 years make a good living (+$100K) selling Mac's to small businesses? The growth in the retail sector is obviously crazy and sm biz sales seem to be catching on....worth a career change?



Thanks in advance.



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  • Reply 1 of 12
    If you're good at sales, you'll figure out how to sell anything. If you have an aptitude for computer sales and dealing with businesses, you should do very well. I'd focus on advertising agencies and design studios first, but you'll probably have to offer something extra, like service, since anyone can order computers off the web.



    Maybe you should work at an Apple Store and get first-hand experience before you turn it into your career.
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  • Reply 2 of 12
    I appreciate your reply and sound advice. Do you know what the top store sales people make? Maybe not commissioned even.
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  • Reply 3 of 12
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rambhlinman View Post


    AI-ers- I've been a b2b sales guy for many years and make a decent living. Bought a iMac for the family last Christmas and frankly it changed my life. Super corny I know, but it has. That and I invested in the stock in the winter and well that's been a good development too.



    Anway, I thought I'd ask the collaborative members of this site a career question. Can a guy who has been pretty good at sales for 15 years make a good living (+$100K) selling Mac's to small businesses? The growth in the retail sector is obviously crazy and sm biz sales seem to be catching on....worth a career change?



    Thanks in advance.



    rambhlinman[/COLOR][/COLOR]



    Yes you can make a nice living selling and supporting Apple products. My recommendation is to enlist the help of Apple.



    1. Create your business. Get Apple certified and join the Apple Consultants Network http://consultants.apple.com/ you get all major updates to the apps you are certified in for

    free and access to NFR apps from Apple and 3rd parties. There are co-marketing benefits as well.
    • Increase your business opportunities, expand your expertise, and connect with a growing community of independent professionals by joining the Apple Consultants Network.



      Use the program's Apple logo to market your services.

      Network with other consultants using private technical and business lists.

      Get discounts on certification training and exams.

      Get listed in the program's online referral directory on apple.com.

      Access valuable members-only resources to help you grow your business.



    2. Become an Apple Authorized Business Agent http://www.apple.com/channel/programs/agents.html
    • Diversify your business, earn fees with minimum investment, and receive professional support from Apple by joining the Apple Authorized Business Agent program:



      Sell Apple and third-party products.

      Use the program?s Apple logo to promote your business.

      Access Apple training, marketing, and support resources.

      Network with other Agents using private technical and business lists.

      Access deal and demo coupons.

      Earn fees from customer transactions that are managed entirely by Apple

    Now do what you've always done. Sell your ass off. Create a website and beat the streets and build your name. I've been in Sales most of my life as well and frankly it gets tiring working for someone else. Being the Big Kahuna means YOU profit the most from success. You go first chief..I'll follow your lead :P
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  • Reply 4 of 12
    Great advice, murch... but my understanding is that he is a salesperson who may not have Apple or computer experience at this point. That's why I recommend getting in on the ground floor at an Apple Store. Perhaps I misunderstood the post.
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  • Reply 5 of 12
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    Great advice, murch... but my understanding is that he is a salesperson who may not have Apple or computer experience at this point. That's why I recommend getting in on the ground floor at an Apple Store. Perhaps I misunderstood the post.



    I don't think the retail reps are making near 100k in Apple Stores I'm sure the managers of larger stores approach that. I concur about the lack of Apple experience. The only way to circumvent that is to get certified. If I was to follow this path I'd probably do this.



    1. Get my Apple certs in OS X Server



    Apple Certified Support Professional (ACSP) is the perfect starting point and addresses basic Mac OS X troubleshooting.



    Apple Certified Technical Coordinator (ACTC) adds Mac OS X server support and troubleshooting skills to your repertoire.



    Apple Certified System Administrator (ACSA), our premier certification, addresses the needs of system administrators who manage networks of systems and complex deployments.




    2. Focus on not only SMB but Media Companies.



    Leopard is finally the Server OS we all expected from Apple. With the all important Calendar Server and better management tools and security it's time to start pushing OS X Server into areas were Windows Small Biz Server is going.



    If your Geography permits (meaning you have enough media companies to warrant the effort) a focus on media would help as well. From companies that create commercial spots to Videographers to TV stations Apple's purchase of Proximity and Silicon Color is the starting pistol "crack" announcing that they are going to push Final Cut Studio into the heart of Broadcast companies.



    Appropriate Certs here would be Final Cut Pro Level 1 & 2, XSAN, Logic Pro 8 and more depending on your focus.



    Apple has a benefit called Certification Alliance that is free and comes with some significant price discounts on test taking and reading materials.



    Certification Alliance



    n recognition of this phenomenal growth, Apple is proud to sponsor the Apple Certification Alliance to acknowledge and support the thousands of Apple experts worldwide who hold one or more current certifications on Apple technology for Mac OS X, Apple Hardware, and Pro Applications. Certification versions that are eligible for the Alliance are listed to the right.



    Public searchable directory of name, location, certification(s), Apple Consultants Network status (if applicable) and email and/or phone

    25% discount on all Apple exams taken at Prometric Testing Centers

    35% discount on Apple Training Series and Apple Pro Training Series books from PeachPit Press**




    Not too shabby. You save a significant amount of money on tests and texts and these are tax deductible for your business.
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  • Reply 6 of 12
    ...the kind of insight I had a hunch I'd find. SpamSand & Murch- I need to digest some of what Murch provided....Just getting home from night out. Thank you both for your thoughts. It hadn't dawned on me that I could open my own Apple for business, business. We had a couple of those in Mpls that rode the Apple wave of about 15-17 yrs ago (maybe I have my years off a bit). Those businesses ended up selling almost exclusively to the Graphic arts market and seemed to experience limited success.



    From my perspective that was Apple's second "wave" into the market. This whole new wave is more of a change in the tide. It's true too that SpamSandwich is right in that It'd be a good idea to start in a store to learn the product more.... I'll dive into Murch's information and will post back again. I'll reach out to you when I get back in case you don't happen to back to this thread.





    BIG THANKS! (any and all other thoughts still appreciated.)
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  • Reply 7 of 12
    While design+advertising+publishing is quite a no-brainer marketspace for Apple, I would suggest broadening your horizons.



    Now it be time to explore what you enjoy and you find fulfilling in your sales experience, with a product that (corny, but true, I believe) actually makes a difference.



    Retail may or may not be your thing because it is quite different from corporate/edu sales. I *despise* corporate/edu but enjoy retail side.



    Depending on how you do, if your annual target pre-tax is USD$100k ; or say $7.5k monthly ; within a year of immersed in Apple, you could reasonably reach that or even exceed. Given a decent dose of passion...



    I would propose Retail as a base to get a feel of what is going on, while also pursuing corporate - small to medium business is a very important space.



    What I am finding with Mac resellers in my city is this. There is very strong synergy (cheesy, I know) between Retail and Small-to-Medium business. You may try and do both when starting out.



    Retail generates a lot of leads for SME and SME has a very good "touchpoint" with the Retail stores. Kids start using Macs, parents get interested, try it themselves, or adults just browsing around, just try out a Mac, and then Boom! .... Thy realise how sh1te their work environment is.



    Given a lot of new PCs that were cheap but bundled with VistaCrippled, viruses, printing, network, wireless problems, ... also SME have very limited budget with IT support. Not having the need for an "IT guy" because they are using Macs, is a very powerful selling point.



    Storage and backup is also a prime area of concern for SMEs ... Particularly now network management, wireless networking, file sharing, file backups, file repositories, archiving, "paperless" workflows.





    ...............



    So, good luck. As you can tell, I am more on the PR hack/ marketing side of things.
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  • Reply 8 of 12
    You should start of with Apple Product Professional. Not to difficult to get and maintain... Then yeah, the path that other enlightened posters on this thread have suggested.
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  • Reply 9 of 12
    backtomacbacktomac Posts: 4,579member
    I think think that Macs are going to do well in medical and dental practices. I see more and more Mac based practice management software available and colleagues with iPhones.



    The iPhone has tremendous potential to be integrated with pm software and an EMR. An apple solution could offer things that windows software can't.
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  • Reply 10 of 12
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by backtomac View Post


    I think think that Macs are going to do well in medical and dental practices. I see more and more Mac based practice management software available and colleagues with iPhones.



    The iPhone has tremendous potential to be integrated with pm software and an EMR. An apple solution could offer things that windows software can't.



    Excellent point backtomac. How could I forget this lucrative market? With Medical and Dental offices there's a huge push to go as paperless as possible and heighten security so as to not run afoul of HIPAA compliance.



    The tools involved here are



    Centralized Servers

    Document Scanners (ScanSnap being my fav)



    And a good Electronic Medical Record (EMR) or Practice Management application. The good news is that unlike the PC market where there are a bajillion EMR apps the Mac has a few that seem to be actively developed.



    http://www.macpractice.com/mp/

    http://www.comchart.com/

    http://emr.liferecord.com/ (10g price )
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  • Reply 11 of 12
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    iPod touch and iPhone SDK. w00t. Add to Xserve + Xraid... + 30" Cinema Displays, Macs etc etc ...Nice for biomed, dental, etc.
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  • Reply 12 of 12
    worth of appreciation. Lot's to dig into in the next days/weeks. Will update on progress.



    Good vibes to all for helpin a working stiff out.



    rambhlinman
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