I Don't Know Who My Parents Are Anymore (Maybe Not In A Bad Way)

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in AppleOutsider edited January 2014
WARNING EXPLICIT DETAILS REGARDING SNUFF (NOTHING TO DO WITH TOBACCO)

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well, a bit of a personal rant, but any help appreciated. basically today i was confronted with some sort of snuff at my workplace. not in a cubicle, at an open plan work bench type thing. guy had his ibook and was like, would you like to see something? i said no. i was already there working on something, he sat next to me.



he proceeded to show me anyway. i do proclaim innocence here because i thought it was going to be some hack or mod or one of those "funny stupid cat" thing.



wrong. it was snuff. if it was fake, i swear if you saw it you would instantly nominate whoever did it for an oscar.



first picture was from maybe 2 - 3 floors up. it was someone lying face down, in typical suicide/ fall[accident?] fashion, brains splattered all over the tiles. looked to be in a shopping mall, perhaps.



before i could say, WHAT THE FUCK



he proceeded to flip through the next two pictures. basically it was close-up, high-res, full screen digital camera pictures of the head (what was left of it) of the corpse, looks like a woman in her mid-20s to mid-30s.



YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. EXPLICIT DESCRIPTION



basically upon impact because she seems to have fallen face down, the back part of the head seemed to be intact. however if you imagine a line from your forehead down to your chin, totally ripping the front of your head and face in two, and all the gooey bits (this is not funny, i swear) splashing out through the front as you hit the concrete, well, that were the pictures. The truly shocking thing is that you can kind of make out the face because it is fairly intact except for being ripped in two, and you can see the whatever inside (what's left because most of it is outside).



this would all be frickin funny except it is not. now in this case, i know snuff may not be the right definition, maybe "death pictures". again, if you saw it, you would be kinda messed up. if you downloaded it or forwarded it, you *are* seriously messed up in my opinion.



the thing about snuff is that there is the possibility that it is real. i'm not talking some pixelated thing, these are very very high res pictures up close. it could be real. if it *is* fake, well, that sick-to-your-stomach feeling, tells you it is real. i know photoshop and i have read cinefex (some of you know what that is). the imagination, make up, well, like i said, oscar-quality stuff. i'm not talking paris hilton house-of-wax horror here.

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  • Reply 1 of 20
    where do my parents come in? i am 29, my dad is 68 and my mum 60. dad is a paediatrician, mum is a nurse. medically they may have dealt with this kind of stuff in the medical scene. however dad says mostly when he had to do post-mortems during training and mum during training cleaning up some dead bodies at the hospital. they have been mostly working in child clinic specialist places for the past 20-30 years.



    as for me, i saw that, and i was like, ok, great. packed up my stuff, told the guy he was a sick bastard, and mentioned to a colleague i was going to file a formal complaint with management.



    i am only recently in the past several months coming out of bipolar disorder (type 2 hypomania) and depression, anxiety.



    is it only me? or is THIS SHIT IS NOT COOL WHAT THE FUCK.



    i'm not normally squeamish, or a prude. i've watched horror movies, i play violent first-person-shooters, i eat meat, i eat sushi, i don't mind a bit of p0rn, i know sometimes workplace pr0n happens, i generally try to avoid it, though fair enough i am tolerant about that.



    BUT WHAT THE FUCK IS IT WITH THIS DEATH PICTURES STUFF



    it seems the internet was bad and evil because of porn, how to make pipe bombs, and terrorist videos, voyeur stuff, etc. etc.



    but snuff is the new porn.



    I'm getting to the parents bit. So having come straight home from work, visibly shaking, having to take some anti-anxiety (clonezapam i believe, under prescriptions) medication, then talking with them, they seem to have become really tolerant.



    My dad eventually after trying to calm me, said, well, you know, maybe this prepares you for if you encounter this kind of stuff (someone splattered on the floor in person in front of me) ... or maybe, i am not being dumb here, i come back home one day and my mum or dad have slipped and died in their bathroom.



    for reference we are an asian family in an asian country and i am not living in the basement.



    but OMFG they got enlightened along the way.
  • Reply 2 of 20
    is it just me or is this stuff very very shocking? the death pictures, that is. autopsy, alien or human, hell, i've played with body parts in jars in anatomy 101 at university.



    but this is something very very disturbing. maybe because this could be real, it could be a suicide, and i have contemplated suicide before, and have known at least 3 cases of friends, acquaintances or family that have met similar fates. a cousin kinda fell off his apartment ledge about 10 years ago. he was about 15. not sure if accident or suicide. about 7 years ago, some 20-somethings, in australia, were out drinking, one of which my friend, another his girlfriend and her housemate. in one of those drunken genius moments, when they were on the rooftop of somewhere, his girlfriends housemate decided to try and jump across to the next rooftop. no go. they were pretty shaken up, he fell and died. recently an ex-colleague of a colleague stopped work for 3 months, then bought it through suicide. i am not sure how she died, i think it was jumping. if it was pills or wrist slitting normally it is not as effective, as far as i have learnt (not personally as such).
  • Reply 3 of 20
    i have filed the email several hours ago. a few weeks ago some of the guys at the workplace, i am not sure if this guy that showed me the death picture was part of it, it was like a cellphone-size video on a cellphone of some sort of autopsy. i didn't look at it for very long. they never said what it was, again, i thought it was some sort of stupid-cat-youtube kind of thing. wrong. autopsy, looks fresh (compared to the highly preserved, brownish biology / anatomy human samples).



    thing was it wasn't CSI, or documentary, it seemed to be snuff in the sense of filming a real autopsy on a fairly fresh corpse. they were cutting the skull open and sloshing out the brain into a jar or some fuck, i don't know.



    i was back then already like WHAT THE FUCK. perhaps i made the mistake of not wanting to be a prude (and hence also preserving my own personal valued freedoms in the workplace) by not saying much, perhaps mistakenly condoning what was going on.



    i have filed the email (specifically today with the suicide/fall pictures but not the cellphone video a few weeks back) and mentioned that i am too shaken up to go back to workplace for several days, will be taking medication (though not explictly disclosing i have bipolar disorder).
  • Reply 4 of 20
    i'll give you a hint: this was at a retail store selling computers. you know what kind. obviously, i disclaim here that i am not disclosing the location, name, city, country, type of shop etc. etc. you make up your own mind on these details.



    but for the sake of my mental health and not going crazy (more crazy), i have to voice it here in somewhat anonymous (as far as possible) fashion.



    i guess while exposed to medical kind of things growing up and majoring in biology at university, my parents and myself have absolutely no police/ fireman/ ambulance/emc experience.



    certainly those in the emergency medical and police, forensics, this is all par for the course.



    i have watched all the disgusting bits ER, Tarantino, House, CSI, whatever whatever. the thing about snuff death stuff is that it is the amateur nature, and sense of realism (this is not a movie) that makes it snuff -- whether real or fake.



    Kind of like when you see a dead body by the side of the road after an accident before anybody gets on the scene. Have any of you seen a decapitated dead body car accident? i haven't. i've only seen maybe a white sheet with an arm sticking out and a pool of blood. No matter how many super violent movies and computer games you indulge in, for most of us, that shit is still freaky. in the bad way freaky.



    But these pictures and the autopsy video, may be coming out of a particular snuff source, fake or real, whatever, it is certainly VERY VERY FUCKING DISTURBING. WHAT SORT OF FUCKHEADS ARE DISTRIBUTING THIS FOR PLEASURE/ CURIOUSITY/ WHATEVER???? WHAT REASON? WTF?
  • Reply 5 of 20
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 14,224moderator
    OK, breath.



    I've seen a few such images and videos. They can be pretty shocking the first time you see them and even if you see them enough to become desensitized, they certainly aren't for casual viewing so I think a complaint is the right thing to do especially in a working environment.



    I recall a story of someone showing a female work colleague a mobile phone video of the one of the Iraq beheadings and she was pretty shaken up about it. It's not a funny thing to do to people.



    However, try not to get completely worked up about it because I think that's what these people who spring these shocking images on people want from you.
  • Reply 6 of 20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    OK, breath.



    I've seen a few such images and videos. They can be pretty shocking the first time you see them and even if you see them enough to become desensitized, they certainly aren't for casual viewing so I think a complaint is the right thing to do especially in a working environment.



    I recall a story of someone showing a female work colleague a mobile phone video of the one of the Iraq beheadings and she was pretty shaken up about it. It's not a funny thing to do to people.



    However, try not to get completely worked up about it because I think that's what these people who spring these shocking images on people want from you.



    Yeah, that's the work thing. I derive a strong sense of satisfaction, pride and happiness in my work efforts, and it is very highly valued by the company.



    Let me tell you that this is happening in a Retail environment where very important brands are establishing and growing within the booming Asian economy. Where the management gets pissed off at people for not wearing name tags, not greeting customers properly, etc. And there is this guy at the cashier counter showing other staff (luckily no customers around there) this stuff - the technician guy, me. This guy was not supposed to be behind the cashier counter, recently a cashier was given a warning (she's young, so she has gone off the grid fearing she would be asked to pay back a lot of money or go to jail) --- because of some rebate points not lining up right in the system --- that is, only the appropriate people should be behind the cashier counter and service counter. there were two women in front of the register, they did not appear to have seen it when i was shown it.



    the thing is that fuckwits like these guy will continue cruising along different jobs. i am no player hater but this guy gives me the creeps. really. i know i may have complained about a separate staff here, i assure you this is not a personal vendetta, something is wrong with the situation and something is wrong with this guy. not necessarily morally wrong, but like weird WTF wrong.



    he is new, about a month, and only recently i went to play some indoor soccer with him and his soccer buddies last wednesday. last sat night we went out with several friends, to a bar and then cafe. he was part of the work group. obviously he has taken certain liberties with what he thinks our work relationship is. even though i have told him before, i wonder why he always has bags under his eyes, has a sloppy demeanor (being honest here i wasn't personally trying to insult him), and always pauses for about 20 secs before he can answer any question, however simple.



    However, this sort of shit stops me from doing any work for the next few days, for obvious reasons. I hate to see the argument come out that I should be "able to deal with it".



    I am tolerant of a lot of stuff. Honestly. I am the last person you would think really prudish, and that's the mistake this guy made, he thought I would be "down with it". Kinda like going to a party and everybody's doing crack. You are like, whoa, wrong fucking friends man.........
  • Reply 7 of 20
    shawnjshawnj Posts: 6,656member
    Nothing Toxic.com is full of that sort of gruesome stuff.



    Beheadings, amputations, executions, etc.
  • Reply 8 of 20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    ...I've seen a few such images and videos. They can be pretty shocking the first time you see them and even if you see them enough to become desensitized, they certainly aren't for casual viewing....



    I understand where you are coming from because you seem somewhat sensible. I hate to become the Oprah show but at what point do we draw the line? I have learned clearly there is no more line.



    If we watch, read, hear, experience enough school murders, suicide bombings, mall killings, animals raping children, it seems we will all become desensitised enough.



    I do not know how to mentally, emotionally, or psychologically know how to process this proposition by society that everything is okay.
  • Reply 9 of 20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ShawnJ View Post


    Nothing Toxic.com is full of that sort of gruesome stuff.

    Beheadings, amputations, executions, etc.



    Great, now where can i find horsesrapinglittlegirls.com ?

    i'll forward my downloads from the site to all my friends.
  • Reply 10 of 20
    gongon Posts: 2,437member
    So.



    What we have here is

    1) photographs of a corpse - not porn, not snuff

    2) someone put those photographs publicly available

    3) a random asshole at work showed them to nvidia2008

    4) most people find it very hard to look at a mangled corpse

    5) nvidia2008 finds it harder still than most people



    Death is a fact of life. Everybody dies. It doesn't hurt the corpse to be photographed. It also doesn't hurt anyone for those photos to be out on the Internet as you are unlikely to see them unless you're searching for them.



    I can't see a problem apart from 3). No one should be subjected to seeing a corpse in retail work unless a customer or co-worker just drops dead. You are right to be upset over your co-worker's behavior, nvidia2008, and I think firing the jerk would be in order, but considering how we can't un-see things, you do "just have to deal with" this one incident.



    I went searching for this sort of imagery in the past, figuring that when I'm being taught how to damage people, it's a good idea to know if I can handle seeing the results. I call that diligence, not being a fuckhead.
  • Reply 11 of 20
  • Reply 12 of 20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post


    ... and mentioned to a colleague i was going to file a formal complaint with management....



    That is so wrong!... Take it up with the a$$ that showed you the stuff... don't go "running to management" because you can't deal with people on your own.

    Now, after telling him what you think, if he comes back with more of this crap after being told you don't care to see it again, THEN file a complaint. That certainly shouldn't be the FIRST step in resolving this, though.
  • Reply 13 of 20
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 17,042member
    Tell your co-worker you don't care to see that anymore. If he continues, THEN file a complaint with management. As for the details, well it sounds sick to me. That said, let's not pretend it ruined your life forever. Grow a pair.
  • Reply 14 of 20
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gon View Post


    So.



    What we have here is

    1) photographs of a corpse - not porn, not snuff

    2) someone put those photographs publicly available

    3) a random asshole at work showed them to nvidia2008

    4) most people find it very hard to look at a mangled corpse

    5) nvidia2008 finds it harder still than most people



    Death is a fact of life. Everybody dies. It doesn't hurt the corpse to be photographed. It also doesn't hurt anyone for those photos to be out on the Internet as you are unlikely to see them unless you're searching for them.



    I can't see a problem apart from 3). No one should be subjected to seeing a corpse in retail work unless a customer or co-worker just drops dead. You are right to be upset over your co-worker's behavior, nvidia2008, and I think firing the jerk would be in order, but considering how we can't un-see things, you do "just have to deal with" this one incident.



    I went searching for this sort of imagery in the past, figuring that when I'm being taught how to damage people, it's a good idea to know if I can handle seeing the results. I call that diligence, not being a fuckhead.



    Interesting. You are saying this is not as bad as snuff or porn. (edit: or you mean this is not snuff or porn so it is okay)..?? Death is a fact of life. You "went searching for this sort of imagery in the past, figuring ... how to damage people..."



    HOW TO DAMAGE PEOPLE? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?



    To see if you can "handle" the results? Well, go to the Middle East, Iraq, Nebraska, etc. and go be a reporter. Then see if you can handle all this death stuff. Shurre, death is everywhere, fuck it, yeah? Suicide bombers, suicide, Nebraska shootings, Columbine, yeahh, fuck it, just part of life. Grow some balls and deal with it. Yeahhhh. Go to Africa, massacre a few hundred people, yeah... death is cool, man. fucktard.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by @_@ Artman View Post






    Yes. at least it is art



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KingOfSomewhereHot View Post


    That is so wrong!... ... don't go "running to management" because you can't deal with people on your own.....



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SDW2001 View Post


    ...Grow a pair.



    Right, thank you. You are all people I have enjoyed being on the forums with.



    Previously.



    You can say I am a whiney coward bastard that is too easily shocked, etc. etc. whiney complain to management etc etc.



    I will say you are all sick fucks. Especially the sick motherfucker that said "WHEN I AM BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DAMAGE PEOPLE". Even in the army, you are thought to KILL people if needed. DAMAGING people is illegal, and against some bullshit for example that rubbish Geneva convention, have you heard of it fucktard?



    Thank you for helping me to stop wasting time on these fucking forums.



    I move that I be banned so if I am ever tempted to come back and waste time with you fucktards I won't be able to.



    Fuck you, fuck you all to hell. I hope you get ass raped by dead corpses with their heads split open for the rest of eternity while Satan jams Vista celeron Gateways into your bowels through your nostrils.



    You are all fucktards. You go arguing about "ooh why can't i have 30 minutes more of battery life ooh all the big corporations suck". When clearly you all have a very warped sense of reality. GET FUCKED MOTHERFUCKERS
  • Reply 15 of 20
    gongon Posts: 2,437member
    Congrats, you are now off the deep end.



    I was in the Army. Which doesn't make me a fucktard.



    I also probably know more about the Geneva Convention than you do.
  • Reply 16 of 20
    marcukmarcuk Posts: 4,442member
    Go sunil! Tell it like it is



    I'll stand with you on this one.
  • Reply 17 of 20
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Does anyone else understand this thread? What is going on?
  • Reply 18 of 20
    marcukmarcuk Posts: 4,442member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BRussell View Post


    Does anyone else understand this thread? What is going on?



    Nvidia is in the latter stages of the journey of becoming a really great person.



    I'd take a hundred nvidia's to one of the 'rest of you'. I hope he stays with us after a bit of reflection.



    Like he says....'Fuck you, fuck you all to hell'
  • Reply 19 of 20
    gongon Posts: 2,437member
    "ass raped by dead corpses with their heads split open for the rest of eternity while Satan jams Vista celeron Gateways into your bowels through your nostrils"



    I'd be upset too if I saw this.
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