Best way to install Leopard???

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in macOS edited January 2014
I installed leopard about christmas time and i have noticed some problems since then. Parallels not working, Boot Camp, Office is being funky, when i log into my school wireless i get an error like "macintosh-4.local....blah blah"



what is the best way to install leopard. someone told me to wipe out the hard saving ONLY the things i need then run a clean install of leopard. (i use time machine by the way) would that mean that i would have re install all my programs as well???



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  • Reply 1 of 18
    Well...



    When I bought Leopard, I first installed it by just 'upgrading' like you did. Everything was kind of slower, cluttered, just not what I expected to get out of a brand new OS.



    So I decided to do a clean install. Backed up all my music, movies, GarageBand files, etc. to an external HD (not using Time Machine, just dragging and dropping files - don't know if it would really make a difference though). Just make sure you have everything you need - I didn't bother copying my apps because they were mostly a bit out of date anyway, so I just downloaded the most up-to-date versions after installing.



    After the clean install, though, Leopard was a lot faster than the first time I installed it. So yeah, do that.
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  • Reply 2 of 18
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    Originally Posted by xTxRxAxVxIxSx View Post


    Well...



    When I bought Leopard, I first installed it by just 'upgrading' like you did. Everything was kind of slower, cluttered, just not what I expected to get out of a brand new OS.



    So I decided to do a clean install. Backed up all my music, movies, GarageBand files, etc. to an external HD (not using Time Machine, just dragging and dropping files - don't know if it would really make a difference though). Just make sure you have everything you need - I didn't bother copying my apps because they were mostly a bit out of date anyway, so I just downloaded the most up-to-date versions after installing.



    After the clean install, though, Leopard was a lot faster than the first time I installed it. So yeah, do that.



    Thanks that helps alot! does anyone know if i can just use my time machine backups?

    would i be able to copy applications like photoshop from my backed up drive??
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  • Reply 3 of 18
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    Originally Posted by IU SRT8 View Post


    Thanks that helps alot! does anyone know if i can just use my time machine backups?

    would i be able to copy applications like photoshop from my backed up drive??



    I think you could use the Time Machine backups, but I'm not 100% sure. Maybe do a good old-fashioned backup... as a backup? Lol.



    And that's what I was unsure about - the applications. I'm pretty sure you couldn't just copy the apps into your new Application folder because the Adobe suites are installed with an actual installer - not by just drag-n-drop'ing the app like, say, Firefox. I would hope that you still have your installation disk for Photoshop, otherwise you might be out of luck with this option.
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  • Reply 4 of 18
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    Originally Posted by xTxRxAxVxIxSx View Post


    I think you could use the Time Machine backups, but I'm not 100% sure. Maybe do a good old-fashioned backup... as a backup? Lol.



    And that's what I was unsure about - the applications. I'm pretty sure you couldn't just copy the apps into your new Application folder because the Adobe suites are installed with an actual installer - not by just drag-n-drop'ing the app like, say, Firefox. I would hope that you still have your installation disk for Photoshop, otherwise you might be out of luck with this option.



    thanks for the quick response!! i am going to give that a try with the good ole fashion backup, but just to be safe i am gonna use time machine. i will let you know how it all works out
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  • Reply 5 of 18
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    Originally Posted by IU SRT8 View Post


    thanks for the quick response!! i am going to give that a try with the good ole fashion backup, but just to be safe i am gonna use time machine. i will let you know how it all works out



    Actually, you shouldn't have to worry about another backup. Once you boot to the fresh copy of Leopard, the Migration Assistant will have you plug in your Time Machine drive, and it will restore all of your documents and applications, but not the old (bad) system files.
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  • Reply 6 of 18
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    Actually, you shouldn't have to worry about another backup. Once you boot to the fresh copy of Leopard, the Migration Assistant will have you plug in your Time Machine drive, and it will restore all of your documents and applications, but not the old (bad) system files.



    This thread was just what I was looking for... but being a bit slow I want to make sure I understand the steps:
    1. back-up using time machine

    2. do an entirely clean install of osx from the DVD

    3. plug in the hard drive with the time machine back-up

    4. migration assistant will magically appear and migrate my music, movies, pics, apps, et all back to my computer.

    5. enjoy.

    There are a few things for which I have lost the install discs... literally and figuratively... that I can't live with out (and i think I am out of ms office installs).
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  • Reply 7 of 18
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    Originally Posted by Phlake View Post


    Actually, you shouldn't have to worry about another backup. Once you boot to the fresh copy of Leopard, the Migration Assistant will have you plug in your Time Machine drive, and it will restore all of your documents and applications, but not the old (bad) system files.



    really????? is it just that easy, i wont have to reinstall all my programs
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  • Reply 8 of 18
    I'll repeat IU SRT8's "really?????"... does it really work like that? If so, cool!



    I've never used any migration assistant on neither Mac nor Windows so I had no idea.
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  • Reply 9 of 18
    areseearesee Posts: 776member
    Or you could do an "Archive and Install" with the preserving Network and User Account settings option. You wouldn't even have to use the Migration Assistant.
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  • Reply 10 of 18
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    Or you could do an "Archive and Install" with the preserving Network and User Account settings option. You wouldn't even have to use the Migration Assistant.



    network settings... those would just be passwords and vpn's correct??



    account settings would be if i controls for each user, but i just have the one account.



    if i dont need to preserve them, would i need to do this or could i do the time machine way.



    this seems very very easy and I LOVE ITTTTT!!



    i love mac
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  • Reply 11 of 18
    backtomacbacktomac Posts: 4,579member
    If you do an archive and install, how do you restore your files to your new leopard system?



    iTunes library, iPhoto ect.



    I just bought leopard this weekend and will install once .2 is released. I'm just not sure how I want to install it.
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  • Reply 12 of 18
    areseearesee Posts: 776member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IU SRT8 View Post


    network settings... those would just be passwords and vpn's correct??



    account settings would be if i controls for each user, but i just have the one account.



    if i dont need to preserve them, would i need to do this or could i do the time machine way.



    this seems very very easy and I LOVE ITTTTT!!



    i love mac



    Network setting include how your Mac connects to the network (i.e wireless, ethernet, USB, Firewire, Modem, ect.) and the passwords and user names as appropriate.



    User Accounts would be the different users that have been generated for your Mac. If you had several user accounts (like I have a non-administrative account for everyday use and a normally logged out administrative account for maintenance use) the installer would set up each account just like it was prior to the upgrade.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by backtomac View Post


    If you do an archive and install, how do you restore your files to your new leopard system?



    iTunes library, iPhoto ect.



    I just bought leopard this weekend and will install once .2 is released. I'm just not sure how I want to install it.



    You don't need to, the installer does it for you. Last week I did this on my iMac. The installer ran and when it was done I had a full and operating system with all my accounts and services intact. It even remembered to go to my external drive to find my iTunes and iPhoto libraries. The only residue is a previous system folder holding all those old, corrupted system files you no longer need. (Actually, the folder is there so that you can recover those hacks and application support files files that got placed in odd places.)
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  • Reply 13 of 18
    backtomacbacktomac Posts: 4,579member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aresee View Post




    You don't need to, the installer does it for you. Last week I did this on my iMac. The installer ran and when it was done I had a full and operating system with all my accounts and services intact. It even remembered to go to my external drive to find my iTunes and iPhoto libraries. The only residue is a previous system folder holding all those old, corrupted system files you no longer need. (Actually, the folder is there so that you can recover those hacks and application support files files that got placed in odd places.)



    Did you do and archive and install?
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  • Reply 14 of 18
    areseearesee Posts: 776member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by backtomac View Post


    Did you do and archive and install?



    Yes I did. With 'Preserve Users and Network Settings' enabled.



    The only issue I have found so far is losing the product registration for my Intego products. But this has turned into a blessing in that I had out of date applications that would not have worked with Leopard anyway. Losing the registration made me check and thus I found the problem fairly quickly.
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  • Reply 15 of 18
    So I set up time machine last night, ran a full back-up and left it plugged in for the day... tonight I need to reinstall. Quick question: which should I do:
    1. vv the so called "nuke n' pave" option so I have a reformated drive, then plug in my disk with the time machine back-up and use the migration assistant.

    2. just run archive and install

    I am also assuming that my time machine back up is sufficient should anything happen to pics and movies....
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  • Reply 16 of 18
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    Originally Posted by mowenbrown View Post


    So I set up time machine last night, ran a full back-up and left it plugged in for the day... tonight I need to reinstall. Quick question: which should I do:
    1. vv the so called "nuke n' pave" option so I have a reformated drive, then plug in my disk with the time machine back-up and use the migration assistant.

    2. just run archive and install

    I am also assuming that my time machine back up is sufficient should anything happen to pics and movies....



    So I just did the archive and install saving user preferences and network. Am I all set to go once the computer resets and does the install? There were no messages or anything when completed? I just want to make sure that it worked properly
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  • Reply 17 of 18
    areseearesee Posts: 776member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IU SRT8 View Post


    So I just did the archive and install saving user preferences and network. Am I all set to go once the computer resets and does the install? There were no messages or anything when completed? I just want to make sure that it worked properly



    That was my response. The OS install left me ready to use the system. Go through and check that your Apps are functioning and that your files are intact.



    BTW I was upgrading from Tiger so the space desktop was all I needed to show that the install was compete.
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  • Reply 18 of 18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aresee View Post


    That was my response. The OS install left me ready to use the system. Go through and check that your Apps are functioning and that your files are intact.



    BTW I was upgrading from Tiger so the space desktop was all I needed to show that the install was compete.



    Thanks everyone for your help! I appreciate everything. After i first 'uprgraded' to Leopard my parallels stopped working! I NEEEEDED parallels almost everyday since and now it works!



    Thanks every I love the forums
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