OS 10.2 current problems (pre-released -6C115)

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in macOS edited January 2014
Lets make a list of current problems with 10.2 and with the software that comes with it from the build 6C115 that we know. And list them by giving them numbers. I'll start...



1. AOL IM doesn't work well at all

2. iChat is very crude and annoying to use

3...maybe, but my mail.app seems alot slower (maybe because of the mail filter?)



You can go into better detail about an application and its problems but as for the list just make it simple...notice i didn't make part of the list about AOL IM and away messages, and how it says i unexpectedly quit when i told it to quit or how when i open a text window i can't close it without force quiting, or how iChat is annoying to read user away messages and organizationally it sux to the current version of AOL IM



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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 19
    jaskejaske Posts: 73member
    1) I'll have to use 10.1.5 until the Cisco VPN is updated (and don't give me crap about this being Cisco's fault...I'm here to bitch).



    2) iMovie seems very flakey, crashing quite often, especially after cutting and/or deleting segments of audio tracks.



    3) This could be nonsense, but my iBook seems to run much "hotter" under 10.2 then 10.1.5. I certainly hear the fan more often, with no discernable changes in usage.



    All that being said, I'm upset that I will be stuck using 10.1.5 until that damn VPN software is updated. Overall, I'd say that 10.2 is the first iteration of X that simply "works."
  • Reply 2 of 19
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    [quote]

    3) This could be nonsense, but my iBook seems to run much "hotter" under 10.2 then 10.1.5. I certainly hear the fan more often, with no discernable changes in usage.<hr></blockquote>



    I'll believe this...does anyone know why?



    Possibly because the GPU is being use more often?
  • Reply 3 of 19
    I don't know if this has been addressed before, but while running 6c115, I get strange cosmetic errors in microsoft apps. For example, IE 5.21 will open a new page and part of the window isn't displayed - I see a white area like this:



    This also happens in Entourage.

    Does anybody else have this problem?
  • Reply 4 of 19
    I have to run Nortons almost daily!



    CD's and zip's will not show up on the desktop and cannot be ejected.

    Disc copy images will not mount, you get an error 95.

    CD burner is not recognized.

    The only fix is to run Nortons 7 (6.0.3) from OS 9 once this occurs.

    That fixes everything until the next episode.



    Photoshop 7 is slow in saving images and flattening layers. Some things are slower and some are faster than PS7 in OS 9.



    Disks don't show up in Nortons to select to repair on some dual processor machines.



    Many small shareware programs that work in X.1 do NOT work in X.2.
  • Reply 5 of 19
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    A new version of AIM came out yesterday that fixes the bugs it has with Jaguar.



    I agree that iChat really sucks right now.
  • Reply 6 of 19
    [vpc]

    vpc 5 doesnt work correctly under 10.2

    win2k+sp2 running on a ti800+1gb ram is reasonably

    quick & thats with delpi/visual c++ running on it

    under 10.1.5

    on 10.2 it crawls......mouse movement is agonizingly slow



    [toast titanium]

    5.1.3 has some really bad bugs & complains about

    kernel extensions....updating to 5.1.4 seems to

    fix it



    [manopen]

    man open doesn work anymore & doesnt display any

    man pages



    [tinkertool2]

    doesnt work anymore under 10.2



    [apple remote desktop]

    is broken & doesnt work...core dump



    [airport admin util]

    dbl clicking on the rescan btn repeatedly causes

    it to core dump



    perhaps other people could post more apps that

    are broken
  • Reply 7 of 19
    I must add :

    - some words are disappearing in Word X when quartz smoothing is enabled !

    - mail.app is REALLY slow (why ??)

    - mail.app hangs if trying to attach a 8-bit JPEG file

    - Acrobat reader has trouble with the first opened file : cannot move inside the document

  • Reply 8 of 19
    frykefryke Posts: 217member
    - Acrobat Reader works perfectly for me.

    - iChat rocks in my opinion.



    Now for the things that still don't work...



    - Photoshop has problems with keyboard-commands (like space for hand, shift for keeping 45 degree thingies)

    - InDesign (similar)

    - Illustrator (similar)

    - FTP in Finder WOULD be great, if it weren't crippled atm.

    - I have less reasons to whine now, because Jaguar rocks and I don't use Classic since 3 months.
  • Reply 9 of 19
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>A new version of AIM came out yesterday that fixes the bugs it has with Jaguar.



    I agree that iChat really sucks right now.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    HURRAY!



    Until the release of AIM for OS X, i never really thougt too highly of AOL or their software. But I have to say I am very proud and even considered starting a post of people and how they are thankful for the nice releases of AIM for OS X. I mean it would just be something nice for the programmers to see how many people appreciate them



    With 10.2, does anyone have .bin files show up as toast images?



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  • Reply 10 of 19
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by ast3r3x:

    <strong>



    With 10.2, does anyone have .bin files show up as toast images?

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    That's been happening to me too. I've just opened StuffIt manually and expanding it like that.
  • Reply 11 of 19
    dogcowdogcow Posts: 713member
    Timbuku also does not work under 10.2. I can't get it to connect to any machine.
  • Reply 12 of 19
    jaskejaske Posts: 73member
    Forgot one. My HP DeskJet 940c prints like "ass" under Jaguar. It is much slower than under 10.1.5, ridiculously slower.
  • Reply 13 of 19
    - DAVE is dead.

    - My HP JetDirect is recognized, but it can't print to it.

    - don't try XTelevision with a Formac ProTVII card. Actually, try this. The "Computer is F'd Up" screen is kind of interesting.
  • Reply 14 of 19
    [quote]Originally posted by ast3r3x:

    <strong>





    With 10.2, does anyone have .bin files show up as toast images?



    [ 08-22-2002: Message edited by: ast3r3x ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    This is NOT a 10.2 specific problem, as I had it going in 10.1.5 too. The issue is that .bin refers to at least two things: 1) macbinary files, and 2) one half of a bin/cue disk image from windoze. For some reason, Toast sets the file mappings to read .bin as a part of the latter when it is installed.



    Yes, this is annoying. Is it Apple's fault, well, yes and no. Given the double usage of the file extension .bin, its a problem we'll have to live with. On the other hand, this is a really good example of the need for robust metadata, which is spotty and inconsistent in X. Apple needs to decide what its going to do about this.



    For the moment, the workaround is to use the "open with" tab in get info to set the appropriate app (Stuffit Expander or whatever) to deal with these files.



    solfege
  • Reply 15 of 19
    Ok



    In the finder, the FTP is kinda buggy...



    iChat works awesome, I love it. You have to turn off the balloons though.

    Internet Sharing checkboxes don't show up all the time
  • Reply 16 of 19
    Disk copy and Toast 5.1.4 constantly fail when trying to launch them, convert images or mount images. A reboot sometimes fixes this but it corrupts soon.

    A nightmare and nothing ( Disk Warrior,Nortons,Disk Drive or Disk utility fixes the problem!



    X.2.1 better come soon!!!
  • Reply 17 of 19
    On my PowerBook G4:



    * iChat fails to connect to either AIM or Rendezvous after reconnecting to network after sleep. Only a reboot will fix this.



    * The occasional black screen after sleep problem persists in Jaguar. Happens about once in 20 times. Results in a hard reboot.
  • Reply 18 of 19
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Help takes forever to load the first time.



    Bin files come us as toast images (if you have Toast loaded).



    I can't find anything about Exchange support in Mail. But the website talks about it. I've been using Entourage for the past few weeks. No calendar but it's OK for now.
  • Reply 19 of 19
    [quote]Originally posted by Outsider:

    <strong>



    Bin files come us as toast images (if you have Toast loaded).



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    As I said above, this is not a Jag specific problem, and it may or may not even be a bug, depending on your definition of the word. Right now, file mappings in Mac OS X work much like those in, say, Internet Explorer....which is not a good thing. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />



    If you really want to, you can have your .bin images open up in DeBabelizer (it happened to me) :confused:



    Now, for those of you who want a bit more technical take on what's at stake here--and perhaps a more robust discussion as to whether or not we should consider this a bug, or at least a poor implementation on Apple's part (the other side of the coin is, I think, Unix standards compliance, but here again, X is definitely half-a**ed)--I suggest a bit of light reading [this is older, and may have been posted here before]:



    <a href="http://arstechnica.com/reviews/01q3/metadata/metadata-1.html"; target="_blank"> Ars Technica: Mac OS X, Metadata, and You.</a>



    For anyone who's not clear about what's going on here, remember that this is why your mac can't reliably distinguish between a .bin file and a .bin file <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



    Solfege



    [edits: put the url in the url...three times , and I really should proofread BEFORE posting sentances with all those damn subordinate clauses <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" /> ]



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