Apple TV DVR

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Hello all,



I'm new to the forum. I'm looking at discontinuing our DirecTV service in January and replacing it with a TiVo unit, unless Apple is planning on releasing a DVR. Does anyone have any idea if and when Apple will deliver an Apple TV/DVR? Any idea when this might be announced? When is the next speculated announcement date for new Apple products and upgrades?



Thanks!



Karl

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  • Reply 1 of 19
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    The chances of Apple making a DVR is steak tartare. Rare.
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  • Reply 2 of 19
    bbwibbwi Posts: 812member
    Steve has said in the past that Apple has no intentions of including a DVR with AppleTV
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  • Reply 3 of 19
    macroninmacronin Posts: 1,174member
    Oh, they got a DVR…































































































    …but it only 'records' shows from the iTunes Store!



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  • Reply 4 of 19
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    Oh, they got a DVR…







    …but it only 'records' shows from the iTunes Store!







    Obviously that's sarcasm, but in all seriousness I think we should be wanting an iTunes TV Show subscription service instead of DVR - as that would negate the need for a DVR.



    Why record your favorite show when you can simply play it anytime, when you push play it streams straight from the iTunes Store, no matter how old the show is. It could be a brand new episode of "whatever", or the first episode of the A-Team, it would stream straight to your screen.
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  • Reply 5 of 19
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    Obviously that's sarcasm, but in all seriousness I think we should be wanting an iTunes TV Show subscription service instead of DVR - as that would negate the need for a DVR.



    Why record your favorite show when you can simply play it anytime, when you push play it streams straight from the iTunes Store, no matter how old the show is. It could be a brand new episode of "whatever", or the first episode of the A-Team, it would stream straight to your screen.



    That would be great, but it would have to be free. If I can watch it (or record it) for free when it's broadcast, I'm certainly not going to pay Apple for the priviledge. It's a shame that Apple doesn't have a procuct that competes with Windows Media Centre.
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  • Reply 6 of 19
    macroninmacronin Posts: 1,174member
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    Originally Posted by mrochester View Post


    That would be great, but it would have to be free. If I can watch it (or record it) for free when it's broadcast, I'm certainly not going to pay Apple for the priviledge. It's a shame that Apple doesn't have a procuct that competes with Windows Media Centre.



    The question is, do you REALLY mean broadcast??



    Or do you ACTUALLY mean received via my cable set-top box??



    Because if you REALLY mean broadcast, as in over the airwaves and picked up by the antenna array on my roof, then you are limited in what you can record on your DVR. But it is free?



    As for the cable set-top box; well, better variety of shows available, but we all know it ain't exactly free?!



    So, will we see 'free' streaming from Apple? Doubtful. Might we see a subscription service someday? Possibly.



    In the interim, think about what you actually watch, and what you might just have on in the background while still in the room.



    Now add up the Season Pass costs of shows you ACTUALLY watch. Unless you spend WAY to much time being babysat by the rectangular box, the cost of a handful or so of Season Passes may actually be cheaper than monthly cable costs?



    YMMV?
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  • Reply 7 of 19
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    Originally Posted by MacRonin View Post


    The question is, do you REALLY mean broadcast??



    Or do you ACTUALLY mean received via my cable set-top box??



    Because if you REALLY mean broadcast, as in over the airwaves and picked up by the antenna array on my roof, then you are limited in what you can record on your DVR. But it is free?



    As for the cable set-top box; well, better variety of shows available, but we all know it ain't exactly free?!



    So, will we see 'free' streaming from Apple? Doubtful. Might we see a subscription service someday? Possibly.



    In the interim, think about what you actually watch, and what you might just have on in the background while still in the room.



    Now add up the Season Pass costs of shows you ACTUALLY watch. Unless you spend WAY to much time being babysat by the rectangular box, the cost of a handful or so of Season Passes may actually be cheaper than monthly cable costs?



    YMMV?



    Sorry what?!



    Yes Freeview comes in via an aerial on the roof, down a wire into my sitting room where my Windows Media Centre PC records programmes I want to watch. Other than the BBC license fee, this is free. Cable isn't available in my area, and Sky is expensive and is just filled with channels full of crap!
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  • Reply 8 of 19
    macroninmacronin Posts: 1,174member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mrochester View Post


    Sorry what?!



    Yes Freeview comes in via an aerial on the roof, down a wire into my sitting room where my Windows Media Centre PC records programmes I want to watch. Other than the BBC license fee, this is free. Cable isn't available in my area, and Sky is expensive and is just filled with channels full of crap!



    Sorry, sitting in the States here; where most of the average TV viewing is done via cable, which is expensive in cost and excessive in useless content?



    I would think a Mac mini; with the appropriate USB dongle & software; could give you the same as your Windows Media Center PC?
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  • Reply 9 of 19
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    Sorry, sitting in the States here; where most of the average TV viewing is done via cable, which is expensive in cost and excessive in useless content?



    I would think a Mac mini; with the appropriate USB dongle & software; could give you the same as your Windows Media Center PC?



    So is there or is there not an Apple TV guide that can be used via remote from a distance to schedule and record TV shows?
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  • Reply 10 of 19
    macroninmacronin Posts: 1,174member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mrochester View Post


    So is there or is there not an Apple TV guide that can be used via remote from a distance to schedule and record TV shows?



    There might be a DVR app for a hacked AppleTV, I don't really know. But I am pretty sure that for a stock AppleTV, Apple intends you to get your content from the iTunes Store only?



    Now, on the Mac mini side of things; USB dongles are available that will get video content into the machine and software is available that will allow for DVR functionality.



    As for remote/from a distance programming, I am sure someone is working on an iPhone component to compliment DVR software apps?
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  • Reply 11 of 19
    bg_nycbg_nyc Posts: 189member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacRonin View Post


    There might be a DVR app for a hacked AppleTV, I don't really know. But I am pretty sure that for a stock AppleTV, Apple intends you to get your content from the iTunes Store only?



    Now, on the Mac mini side of things; USB dongles are available that will get video content into the machine and software is available that will allow for DVR functionality.



    Is there a reason you don't name this 'USB dongle'? EyeTV Hybrid is what I use to time-shift HD broadcasts directly from my roof antenna (in Houston, TX), save them as MP4, import into iTunes, and watch via Apple TV. Other than the need to point iTunes to each new file's location, Its pretty painless. At near 720p quality, file sizes are manageable.
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  • Reply 12 of 19
    macroninmacronin Posts: 1,174member
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    Originally Posted by bg_nyc View Post


    Is there a reason you don't name this 'USB dongle'? EyeTV Hybrid is what I use to time-shift HD broadcasts directly from my roof antenna (in Houston, TX), save them as MP4, import into iTunes, and watch via Apple TV. Other than the need to point iTunes to each new file's location, Its pretty painless. At near 720p quality, file sizes are manageable.



    Because I was too lazy to bother going and looking for the name…



    Your way gets the content captured via DVR and served up via the AppleTV; but you still need another Mac to do the initial capture, correct?



    I think what people want when they think AppleTV & DVR is the ability to attach their video feed directly to the AppleTV and use the AppleTV as if it were a TiVo…



    I am sure Apple realizes this, and I would think it might be one of the factors that could lead to Apple making a more noticeable move into the consumer electronics market by introducing an Apple branded flat-panel HDTV. Getting a majority of content providers onboard for a subscription service (aka iTunes Store On Demand) would be a major hurdle…
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  • Reply 13 of 19
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    I think what people want when they think AppleTV & DVR is the ability to attach their video feed directly to the AppleTV and use the AppleTV as if it were a TiVo?



    That's exactly what I'd want, or the same ability through Front Row on a Mac. And I want to be able to do this using a standard £20 remote control and not a £300 iPhone.
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  • Reply 14 of 19
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    That would be great, but it would have to be free.



    Stay off the pot. We're talking Apple here. Besides, who let's you stream every TV Show in history and all new shows right to your TV for free - cause that's what I'm talking about. A service that people would want to pay for.



    It would be a cable rival, not a freeview rival.
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  • Reply 15 of 19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    Stay off the pot. We're talking Apple here. Besides, who let's you stream every TV Show in history and all new shows right to your TV for free - cause that's what I'm talking about. A service that people would want to pay for.



    It would be a cable rival, not a freeview rival.



    Yes if you're talking about every programme ever and all the new episodes then I can see why there'd be a fee attached to that. But I currently receive all my TV for free (apart from the license fee) and that's good enough for me, so a product from Apple that allows me to watch and record that wouldn't go amiss.
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  • Reply 16 of 19
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    and Sky is expensive and is just filled with channels full of crap!





    I agree with the general point you're making, but Sky+ absolutely whips the arse of any Freeview-based DVR I've seen.



    I have both, but only use the Freeview one when the Sky+HD box is already busy recording two things.
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  • Reply 17 of 19
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    I agree with the general point you're making, but Sky+ absolutely whips the arse of any Freeview-based DVR I've seen.



    That's fair enough, but I don't give a hoot unless it's free!
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  • Reply 18 of 19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mrochester View Post


    That's fair enough, but I don't give a hoot unless it's free!



    BBC etc are free-to-air.
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  • Reply 19 of 19
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    BBC etc are free-to-air.



    Right, but Sky+ costs, yes?
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