Small Talk?

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Has anyone discussed the banner that says "Even the small talk will be Big?



Doesn't this lead one to believe a smaller (nano) iphone is on the way?

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  • Reply 1 of 11
    olternautolternaut Posts: 1,376member
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    Originally Posted by gokylego View Post


    Has anyone discussed the banner that says "Even the small talk will be Big?



    Doesn't this lead one to believe a smaller (nano) iphone is on the way?



    No. Because that banner is for IDG's Macworld and not specifically an Apple banner. I guess they are talking about all the small talk all those apple vendors and customers will be doing. That, and all the networking that would be going on.

    Since Apple is out of the picture at macworld they are trying to make the show about stuff other than Apple the company.
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  • Reply 2 of 11
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    No. Because that banner is for IDG's Macworld and not specifically an Apple banner. I guess they are talking about all the small talk all those apple vendors and customers will be doing. That, and all the networking that would be going on.

    Since Apple is out of the picture at macworld they are trying to make the show about stuff other than Apple the company.



    Thanks for the clarification. I know that the banners are MW specific and don't represent Apples product intentions....It just seems a little uncanny.
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  • Reply 3 of 11
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Maybe they're going to convert Xcode to the Small Talk language.
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    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
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    Maybe they're going to convert Xcode to the Small Talk language.



    XCode won't convert but I'm surprised to find somebody else thinking the same way. That is Smalltalk the language. It would mesh well with iPhone and be good for quick programs and scripts. If I had a choice it would be a toss up between Smalltalk and Python. Either would allow development of programs that don't justify the development time in XCode.



    Ask me what the chance of this happening is?







    Dave
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    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    I was joking
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  • Reply 6 of 11
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
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    I was joking



    OK but you have to admit that having Python on the iPhone would be very interesting.



    Dave
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  • Reply 7 of 11
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    Originally Posted by gokylego View Post


    Has anyone discussed the banner that says "Even the small talk will be Big? ...



    So if the "Even the small talk will be big" banner belongs to MacWorld Expo / IDG do we know what they mean by it?



    I'm not at the event, otherwise I'd ask one of the MacWorld/IDG reps what it means.



    (Yes, I too thought of the 'smalltalk' programming language... but I only know of its name, no details. It's just one of the gazillion techie bits floating around in my bio-banks...
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    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
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    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post


    XCode won't convert but I'm surprised to find somebody else thinking the same way. That is Smalltalk the language. It would mesh well with iPhone and be good for quick programs and scripts. If I had a choice it would be a toss up between Smalltalk and Python. Either would allow development of programs that don't justify the development time in XCode.



    Ask me what the chance of this happening is?







    Dave



    Objective-C is, for all intents and purposes, Smalltalk w/ C bolted on. We're already there, man.
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  • Reply 9 of 11
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    Objective-C is, for all intents and purposes, Smalltalk w/ C bolted on. We're already there, man.



    Try the otherway around. It's C with ``the most efficient parts of Smalltalk'' as a superset of C [bolted on].
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  • Reply 10 of 11
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Well I wrote that specifically to see if anyone would bite...



    It's C, but then they added a Smalltalk run time environment, complete with dynamic typing, new syntax, etc.



    or...



    It's a reduced Smalltalk, but they added a small statically compilable language (C) for efficiency when needed.



    While the former is the way most people look at it, and obviously is the 'canonical' viewpoint, if you look at which chunk is smaller, and which is larger, adding C to Smalltalk makes sense.



    Given the topic of discussion here, and the request for Smalltalk, I thought it was a point to make... we already essentially have the best bits of Smalltalk the language, with a more forward focussed replacement for the Smalltalk libraries in Cocoa.
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  • Reply 11 of 11
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    When thinking of SmallTalk or maybe better Python I'm think more about on the device scripting. So comparisons with Objective C don't fit the bill. The idea is an interpreted environment that allows easy access to a better part of system resources for simple tasks.



    Of course without background apps, right now, I wouldn't be able to do what I would like to do with that scripting environment anyways. So this is another thing along with cut and paste, more BluTooth profiles and a bunch of other things that would make for a much better user system in the future.



    Dave
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