I find this a bit weird. It's a bit too extensive to just be an error on the site.
On the other hand, I don't think a new chipset+gfx is just a dropin replacement on the old mobo, but if it is a new mobo, the DDR2 seems a bit strange... does the GeForce 9400 even support DDR2?
If it is an entirely new mobo, one would thin the old MacBook design is here to stay...
I find this as good news. The plastic MacBook was a great design. I have the new aluminum MacBook, and my daughter has the white. The white appears much more durable. And the 999 is important.
The aluminum still wins on the trackpad and lower weight.
I find this as good news. The plastic MacBook was a great design. I have the new aluminum MacBook, and my daughter has the white. The white appears much more durable. And the 999 is important.
The aluminum still wins on the trackpad and lower weight.
I just saw this today as well and even wandered in to make sure my eyes weren't tricking me.
I think those netbooks might be taking a bigger bite than people want to admit and some bean counters at Apple are finally declaring that design aesthetic (especially going green), while awesome is starting to hurt the margins.
Apple this week quietly upgraded its previous-generation white 13-inch MacBooks to NVIDIA's 9400M architecture, a move aimed at boosting sales of its most affordable notebook during a period of reduced consumer spending.
The $999 entry level model now includes the same 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor and 1,066MHz front-side bus employed by the mid-range aluminum unibody MacBook, and also adopts the same NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared memory.
As part of the upgrade, the white MacBook also saw a doubling of its default memory configuration to 2GBs, though the system still employs 667MHz DDR2 memory rather than the faster 1,066MHz DDR3 breed of its aluminum cousins.
Outside of an upgrade to Bluebooth 2.1 from 2.0, the remainder of the notebook's specifications remain largely unchanged, including its 120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard disk drive, non-backlit keyboard, and 8X SuperDrive.
Of some significance is that Wednesday upgrade delivers a 13-inch MacBook that offers the benefits of NVIDIA's new 9400M platform in addition to FireWire (400). Apple specifically withheld FireWire from its new unibody MacBooks introduced this past October, a move that was met with considerable criticism from owners of FireWire-only digital video cameras and eventually drew an email response from chief executive Steve Jobs.
The revised white MacBook also retains its legacy Mini-DVI port rather than jumping up to the company's emerging Mini DisplayPort standard (proposal), meaning its secondary display support remains limited to a full native resolution of up to 1920 by 1200 pixels, or the equivalent of the 20-inch Apple Cinema Display.
Apple offers a build-to-order option to upgrade the system with a 160GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $50 more, a 250GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $150 more, and a 320GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $250 more.
The Mac maker's move to further embrace its legacy polycarbonate MacBook suggests demand for the notebook remained relatively strong during the recent holiday shopping season despite speculation that the system was destined to be phased out.
A better than expected mix of the sub-$1000 notebook may also explain why the average selling price (ASP) of Macs during the month of December remained relatively flat instead of rising 12 percent as some analyst on Wall Street had been expecting.
The upgraded 13-inch MacBook is expected to ship in 4 to 6 business days.
MacMall is currently offering AppleInsider readers an additional 3% off its entire inventory of 13-inch MacBooks with coupon code APPINSDRMWB17065, which recently brought the cost of the now previous model to $910.83. The retailer has yet to update its website with the NVIDIA-based model, but is expected to do so shortly. Meanwhile, ClubMac is offering AI readers 3% off its inventory of MacBook Pros with coupon code APPINSDRCWB02822. Details of both promotions are available here.
Apple this week quietly upgraded its previous-generation white 13-inch MacBooks to NVIDIA's 9400M architecture, a move aimed at boosting sales of its most affordable notebook offering during a period of reduced consumer spending.
The $999 entry level model now includes the same 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor and 1,066MHz front-side bus employed by the mid-range aluminum unibody MacBook, and also adopts the same NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared memory.
As part of the upgrade, the white MacBook also saw a doubling of its default memory configuration to 2GBs, though the system still employs 667MHz DDR2 memory rather than the faster 1,066MHz DDR3 breed of its aluminum cousins.
Outside of an upgrade to Bluebooth 2.1 from 2.0, the remainder of the notebook's specifications remain largely unchanged, including its 120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard disk drive, non-backlit keyboard, and 8X SuperDrive.
Apple offers a build-to-order option to upgrade the system with a 160GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $50 more, a 250GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $150 more, and a 320GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $250 more.
The systems are expected to ship in 4 to 6 business days.
They actually did upgrade the White Macbooks memory to 1,066MHz DDR3... At least thats what the website says
Where? The FSB is labelled as 1066MHz but the RAM itself appears to be 667... which seems pretty strange to me anyhow, must be a way of deliberately crippling this machine.
Apple this week quietly upgraded its previous-generation white 13-inch MacBooks to NVIDIA's 9400M architecture, a move aimed at boosting sales of its most affordable notebook offering during a period of reduced consumer spending.
You would think that anybody who has been complaining about the New MacBooks sans FireWire would be happy. But then who the hell would be so stupid to think that?
I find this as good news. The plastic MacBook was a great design. I have the new aluminum MacBook, and my daughter has the white. The white appears much more durable. And the 999 is important.
The aluminum still wins on the trackpad and lower weight.
I'd take the aluminum over the plastic anyday in terms of durability. The plastic may *look* more durable but I'd almost guarantee the unibody aluminum would mop the floor with it in durability tests (dropping, hitting, etc).
This is now a really good system for the money, give it the good graphics and RAM (thanks venti) all while keeping the FW for $300 less, that's probably the best 1k system Apple has ever put together.
Edit: Ok, well maybe the RAM isn't DDR3 but doubling the base to 2GB is still enough for most consumers and a great starting point for the cheapest laptop offering.
Where? The FSB is labelled as 1066MHz but the RAM itself appears to be 667... which seems pretty strange to me anyhow, must be a way of deliberately crippling this machine.
I believe the unibody's screen while not as good as the MBP's, is a better display than the old white MB's.
Me wonders why Apple didn't just keep the white MB as is, but simply dropped the price by another $150. At least a $850 MB is at least more competitive to those cheapo $500 PC laptops.
Sarcasm? I sure hope so, 'cause, although I'm not a hardware specialist, it seems to be that this isn't just a drop-in replacement in the old motherboard. If it would be, I stand corrected and completely understand why the memory is still 667. But with the 9400M combining chipset and gpu on one die and all...
Me wonders why Apple didn't just keep the white MB as is, but simply dropped the price by another $150. At least a $850 MB is at least more competitive to those cheapo $500 PC laptops.
Cause Apple doesn't do cheap. It would damage their premium brand status. When you buy an Apple you know that you just forked out an additional 150$ just for the name.
This is the first thing that Apple has done in the last couple of years that makes me really happy. A great system at a great price, that DOESN'T have something important taken away for no good reason. I'm going to buy one right away, and a second one in a month or two.
They probably want to be able to say that all currently shipping Macs can utilize Grand Central when 10.6 comes out. This is actually a pretty sweet machine. I agree, probably the best $1000 machine Apple has sold (when compared to $2000 machines sold at the same time)
I guess that blows the theory some had that Apple will be discontinuing the polycarb MB.
Does this prepare the desktop Macs for a new release next week?
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I find this as good news. The plastic MacBook was a great design. I have the new aluminum MacBook, and my daughter has the white. The white appears much more durable. And the 999 is important.
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Originally Posted by bigmc6000
I'd take the aluminum over the plastic anyday in terms of durability. The plastic may *look* more durable but I'd almost guarantee the unibody aluminum would mop the floor with it in durability tests (dropping, hitting, etc).
The unibody Mac notebooks are considerably more durable than the polycarb MBs and previous aluminium MBPs. With as much abuse I put on my machines Apple should hire me for stress testing. My current unibody MB has taken several falls from 6 feet up or higher, sometimes with the lid open and other times with the lid close, and it works the same and their are no dents or dings. My previous machines have all goteen cracks and been slightly bent out of shape with the same abuse, though they have all continued to work fine, sans the optical drive which I don't use anyway.
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Originally Posted by Abster2core
You would think that anybody who has been complaining about the New MacBooks sans FireWire would be happy. But then who the hell would be so stupid to think that?
If only it were that simple.
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Originally Posted by satchmo
Me wonders why Apple didn't just keep the white MB as is, but simply dropped the price by another $150. At least a $850 MB is at least more competitive to those cheapo $500 PC laptops.
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Originally Posted by freelander51
Cause Apple doesn't do cheap. It would damage their premium brand status. When you buy an Apple you know that you just forked out an additional 150$ just for the name.
I'd agree with the the cheap statement, but also think that since Apple already has the parts that it may have gotten to a point that it would be financially beneficial to stop buying the other internal HW andstart using the new MB's internal HW. The unibody, on the other hand, is of course very expensive compared to a polycarb case, and DDR2 is still prevalent and cheap. How much money/time/effort would it have taken Apple to redesign a new MoBo? Probably not much.
The revised white MacBook also retains its legacy Mini-DVI port rather than jumping up to the company's emerging Mini DisplayPort standard (proposal), meaning its secondary display support remains limited to a full native resolution of up to 1920 by 1200 pixels, or the equivalent of the 20-inch Apple Cinema Display.
The resolution mentioned isn't for the 20" monitor, it's for the 23"/24" monitor.
in this "period of reduced consumer spending" Apple would see the white MacBook's sales go through the roof if -- if -- they saw the light and reduced the price as well. There's simply too much competition at lower price points. Dollars are scarce right now. No one's asking Apple to do "cheap," but a lower entry point to the Macintosh laptop line is right for the times.
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On the other hand, I don't think a new chipset+gfx is just a dropin replacement on the old mobo, but if it is a new mobo, the DDR2 seems a bit strange... does the GeForce 9400 even support DDR2?
If it is an entirely new mobo, one would thin the old MacBook design is here to stay...
The aluminum still wins on the trackpad and lower weight.
I find this as good news. The plastic MacBook was a great design. I have the new aluminum MacBook, and my daughter has the white. The white appears much more durable. And the 999 is important.
The aluminum still wins on the trackpad and lower weight.
I just saw this today as well and even wandered in to make sure my eyes weren't tricking me.
I think those netbooks might be taking a bigger bite than people want to admit and some bean counters at Apple are finally declaring that design aesthetic (especially going green), while awesome is starting to hurt the margins.
The $999 entry level model now includes the same 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor and 1,066MHz front-side bus employed by the mid-range aluminum unibody MacBook, and also adopts the same NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared memory.
As part of the upgrade, the white MacBook also saw a doubling of its default memory configuration to 2GBs, though the system still employs 667MHz DDR2 memory rather than the faster 1,066MHz DDR3 breed of its aluminum cousins.
Outside of an upgrade to Bluebooth 2.1 from 2.0, the remainder of the notebook's specifications remain largely unchanged, including its 120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard disk drive, non-backlit keyboard, and 8X SuperDrive.
Of some significance is that Wednesday upgrade delivers a 13-inch MacBook that offers the benefits of NVIDIA's new 9400M platform in addition to FireWire (400). Apple specifically withheld FireWire from its new unibody MacBooks introduced this past October, a move that was met with considerable criticism from owners of FireWire-only digital video cameras and eventually drew an email response from chief executive Steve Jobs.
The revised white MacBook also retains its legacy Mini-DVI port rather than jumping up to the company's emerging Mini DisplayPort standard (proposal), meaning its secondary display support remains limited to a full native resolution of up to 1920 by 1200 pixels, or the equivalent of the 20-inch Apple Cinema Display.
Apple offers a build-to-order option to upgrade the system with a 160GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $50 more, a 250GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $150 more, and a 320GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $250 more.
The Mac maker's move to further embrace its legacy polycarbonate MacBook suggests demand for the notebook remained relatively strong during the recent holiday shopping season despite speculation that the system was destined to be phased out.
A better than expected mix of the sub-$1000 notebook may also explain why the average selling price (ASP) of Macs during the month of December remained relatively flat instead of rising 12 percent as some analyst on Wall Street had been expecting.
The upgraded 13-inch MacBook is expected to ship in 4 to 6 business days.
MacMall is currently offering AppleInsider readers an additional 3% off its entire inventory of 13-inch MacBooks with coupon code APPINSDRMWB17065, which recently brought the cost of the now previous model to $910.83. The retailer has yet to update its website with the NVIDIA-based model, but is expected to do so shortly. Meanwhile, ClubMac is offering AI readers 3% off its inventory of MacBook Pros with coupon code APPINSDRCWB02822. Details of both promotions are available here.
[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]
Apple this week quietly upgraded its previous-generation white 13-inch MacBooks to NVIDIA's 9400M architecture, a move aimed at boosting sales of its most affordable notebook offering during a period of reduced consumer spending.
The $999 entry level model now includes the same 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor and 1,066MHz front-side bus employed by the mid-range aluminum unibody MacBook, and also adopts the same NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared memory.
As part of the upgrade, the white MacBook also saw a doubling of its default memory configuration to 2GBs, though the system still employs 667MHz DDR2 memory rather than the faster 1,066MHz DDR3 breed of its aluminum cousins.
Outside of an upgrade to Bluebooth 2.1 from 2.0, the remainder of the notebook's specifications remain largely unchanged, including its 120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard disk drive, non-backlit keyboard, and 8X SuperDrive.
Apple offers a build-to-order option to upgrade the system with a 160GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $50 more, a 250GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $150 more, and a 320GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm for $250 more.
The systems are expected to ship in 4 to 6 business days.
[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]
They actually did upgrade the White Macbooks memory to 1,066MHz DDR3... At least thats what the website says
They actually did upgrade the White Macbooks memory to 1,066MHz DDR3... At least thats what the website says
Where? The FSB is labelled as 1066MHz but the RAM itself appears to be 667... which seems pretty strange to me anyhow, must be a way of deliberately crippling this machine.
Apple this week quietly upgraded its previous-generation white 13-inch MacBooks to NVIDIA's 9400M architecture, a move aimed at boosting sales of its most affordable notebook offering during a period of reduced consumer spending.
You would think that anybody who has been complaining about the New MacBooks sans FireWire would be happy. But then who the hell would be so stupid to think that?
I find this as good news. The plastic MacBook was a great design. I have the new aluminum MacBook, and my daughter has the white. The white appears much more durable. And the 999 is important.
The aluminum still wins on the trackpad and lower weight.
I'd take the aluminum over the plastic anyday in terms of durability. The plastic may *look* more durable but I'd almost guarantee the unibody aluminum would mop the floor with it in durability tests (dropping, hitting, etc).
This is now a really good system for the money, give it the good graphics and RAM (thanks venti) all while keeping the FW for $300 less, that's probably the best 1k system Apple has ever put together.
Edit: Ok, well maybe the RAM isn't DDR3 but doubling the base to 2GB is still enough for most consumers and a great starting point for the cheapest laptop offering.
Where? The FSB is labelled as 1066MHz but the RAM itself appears to be 667... which seems pretty strange to me anyhow, must be a way of deliberately crippling this machine.
What a stupid conclusion.
Me wonders why Apple didn't just keep the white MB as is, but simply dropped the price by another $150. At least a $850 MB is at least more competitive to those cheapo $500 PC laptops.
What a stupid conclusion.
Oh I don't know. Hopefully it's a typo. If not, it does create a minor bottleneck.
What a stupid conclusion.
Sarcasm? I sure hope so, 'cause, although I'm not a hardware specialist, it seems to be that this isn't just a drop-in replacement in the old motherboard. If it would be, I stand corrected and completely understand why the memory is still 667. But with the 9400M combining chipset and gpu on one die and all...
DDR2 RAM is much cheaper of course...
Me wonders why Apple didn't just keep the white MB as is, but simply dropped the price by another $150. At least a $850 MB is at least more competitive to those cheapo $500 PC laptops.
Cause Apple doesn't do cheap. It would damage their premium brand status. When you buy an Apple you know that you just forked out an additional 150$ just for the name.
But guess what ? I am happy.
I just wish Apple would hurry up and give the Mac mini the same treatment.
Does this prepare the desktop Macs for a new release next week?
I find this as good news. The plastic MacBook was a great design. I have the new aluminum MacBook, and my daughter has the white. The white appears much more durable. And the 999 is important.
I'd take the aluminum over the plastic anyday in terms of durability. The plastic may *look* more durable but I'd almost guarantee the unibody aluminum would mop the floor with it in durability tests (dropping, hitting, etc).
The unibody Mac notebooks are considerably more durable than the polycarb MBs and previous aluminium MBPs. With as much abuse I put on my machines Apple should hire me for stress testing. My current unibody MB has taken several falls from 6 feet up or higher, sometimes with the lid open and other times with the lid close, and it works the same and their are no dents or dings. My previous machines have all goteen cracks and been slightly bent out of shape with the same abuse, though they have all continued to work fine, sans the optical drive which I don't use anyway.
You would think that anybody who has been complaining about the New MacBooks sans FireWire would be happy. But then who the hell would be so stupid to think that?
If only it were that simple.
Me wonders why Apple didn't just keep the white MB as is, but simply dropped the price by another $150. At least a $850 MB is at least more competitive to those cheapo $500 PC laptops.
Cause Apple doesn't do cheap. It would damage their premium brand status. When you buy an Apple you know that you just forked out an additional 150$ just for the name.
I'd agree with the the cheap statement, but also think that since Apple already has the parts that it may have gotten to a point that it would be financially beneficial to stop buying the other internal HW andstart using the new MB's internal HW. The unibody, on the other hand, is of course very expensive compared to a polycarb case, and DDR2 is still prevalent and cheap. How much money/time/effort would it have taken Apple to redesign a new MoBo? Probably not much.
The revised white MacBook also retains its legacy Mini-DVI port rather than jumping up to the company's emerging Mini DisplayPort standard (proposal), meaning its secondary display support remains limited to a full native resolution of up to 1920 by 1200 pixels, or the equivalent of the 20-inch Apple Cinema Display.
The resolution mentioned isn't for the 20" monitor, it's for the 23"/24" monitor.