Evidence shows Apple testing next-gen iPhone

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in iPhone edited January 2014
Hidden strings in Apple's latest iPhone firmware reveals that a major revision of the hardware is in the works and is even being tested online.



A poke around the latest iPhone firmware by Mac Rumors has found a product string for iPhone 2,1, a version of the handset that has never been publicly available or else visible in previous firmware.



The 2007 launch iPhone identifies itself as iPhone 1,1, while the current iPhone 3G lists as iPhone 1,2, indicating that it's a minor revision of a similar design. As with similar practices for Macs, Apple's choice of 2,1 implies a major update for the handset; the second-generation iPod touch is listed as iPod 2,1 and includes slightly faster internal hardware as well as a significant external redesign.



And while such company-produced leaks rarely hint at the state of the future hardware, a developer tracking ad views from PinchMedia claims to have seen requests coming from iPhone 2,1 devices; the discovery suggests that test iPhones are functioning at a level which lets them connect to the web.



Apple has until now provided few clues as to its 2009 plans for the iPhone and has left most of the talking to its individual component makers, which could potentially offer more advanced graphics, newer ARM processors or new communications chips that would permit faster 3G cellular data.
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  • Reply 1 of 47
    mactelmactel Posts: 1,275member
    Give me an iChat enabled iPhone and I'm in.



    Of course AT&T would probably raise monthly rates for such a device that would suck down their network.
  • Reply 2 of 47
    If I wasn't so married to Rogers' 3 Year Contract I'd go buy a new iPhone! I like new things
  • Reply 3 of 47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ipodrulz View Post


    If I wasn't so married to Rogers' 3 Year Contract I'd go buy a new iPhone! I like new things



    Well if there is a new phone, Rogers and fido (and I assume most carriers) will let you upgrade for the price of the phone or something less than that.



    The thing I don't think Apple or any of the carriers have thought of is that the 3G phones will either be junk or re-sold to others and if resold, then the carriers will pretty much have to start activating and accepting people with iPhones that were not bought on the spot at their stores. At least it would be quite an outrage not to considering the environmental implications.
  • Reply 4 of 47
    Why is it news that Apple is working on an update? Obviously Apple is always working on an update. It wuld be news if it wasn't.
  • Reply 5 of 47
    ipeonipeon Posts: 1,122member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by merdhead View Post


    Why is it news that Apple is working on an update? Obviously Apple is always working on an update. It wuld be news if it wasn't.



    Because people get bored and need something to argue... er... talk about?
  • Reply 6 of 47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by merdhead View Post


    Why is it news that Apple is working on an update? Obviously Apple is always working on an update. It wuld be news if it wasn't.



    good point, but i think it became news because everyone is so curious as to what the next version will be like.
  • Reply 7 of 47
    asciiascii Posts: 5,941member
    I am quite happy with my iPhone 3G. Main things that could be better are:



    - Battery life

    - File transfer speed (e.g. uploading a movie)

    - Answering: I would like a dedicated hard to push button for answering a ringing phone

    - GPS: takes too long to home in on you

    - Orientation-change detection: not reliable enough

    - Screen turns off when you're speaking: I don't like this behavior, could it be a preference setting.
  • Reply 8 of 47
    "...the discovery suggests that test iPhones are functioning at a level which lets them connect to the web..."



    OOOOOOHH MY GOD!!!!!! NOOOO WAYYYYY!!!! WOW. Connecting to the worldwide interweb?!?!?!?!? Wow it's so ahead of the times...



    Come on, can we get some real tech news? Sometimes I feel like Apple is getting "old" and I have been a long-time fan.
  • Reply 9 of 47
    would it make at&t's coverage better? if not, i'm still screwed for another 1 year or so
  • Reply 10 of 47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacTel View Post


    Give me an iChat enabled iPhone and I'm in.



    Of course AT&T would probably raise monthly rates for such a device that would suck down their network.



    Ooh! That patent for putting a camera behind the LCD screen would come in handy for that!
  • Reply 11 of 47
    ivladivlad Posts: 742member
    Makes perfect sense. The PUSH is a huge lead into this. Apple couldn't make the iPhone process PUSH in the background, so they waited until super performance iPhone is ready.



    If this next iPhone does have its own chip I think COPY&PASTE, PUSH and Dual Camera is much of a reality. The current camera can be facing the user, while new 5 mega-pixel camera can be facing back.



    Latest version of iLife really gave hints that Apple is serious about photos so I wouldn't be surprise if iPhone can automatically send your pics directly to iPhoto app over 3G or Wi-Fi. They can be stored on Mobile Me until user opens iPhoto. Then iPhoto will ask to retrieve new photos from MobileMe.
  • Reply 12 of 47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iPeon View Post


    Because people get bored and need something to argue... er... talk about?



    Hence the person a few posts prior getting giddy like a beverly hills yuppy needing the latest "thing."
  • Reply 13 of 47
    Dream iPhone version 3:



    - 800Mhz+ ARM Cortex-A8 CPU

    - PowerVR SGX

    - HSUPA (fast, low latency uploads)

    - better camera with autofocus, flash, video

    - forward-facing camera for video calls

    - universal dual-mode CDMA EV-DO/HSPA chipset for worldwide use (see blackberry 8800 world phone)



  • Reply 14 of 47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bigmike View Post


    "...the discovery suggests that test iPhones are functioning at a level which lets them connect to the web..."



    OOOOOOHH MY GOD!!!!!! NOOOO WAYYYYY!!!! WOW. Connecting to the worldwide interweb?!?!?!?!? Wow it's so ahead of the times...



    Come on, can we get some real tech news? Sometimes I feel like Apple is getting "old" and I have been a long-time fan.



    I think you missed the point here, bud. The point of what you quoted was to show that the device was in some form of testing, not that the new iPhone will be able to access the internet.



    I mean people flipped out over the 3G, I think news of something that gets a whole new first number is a pretty big deal myself. I never upgraded to the 3G, so I might jsut skip over that half generation and get a new phone when 2,1 comes out.
  • Reply 15 of 47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FJRabon View Post


    I think you missed the point here, bud. The point of what you quoted was to show that the device was in some form of testing, not that the new iPhone will be able to access the internet.



    I mean people flipped out over the 3G, I think news of something that gets a whole new first number is a pretty big deal myself. I never upgraded to the 3G, so I might jsut skip over that half generation and get a new phone when 2,1 comes out.



    Ditto. 3G didn't offer me enough to justify a repurchase. Even though the screen of my 1G is cracked. Sucks Apple or AT&T won't warranty it. DID I SAY THAT LOUD ENOUGH IT IS TOTALLY GHEY THAT THE IPHONE IS NOT COVERED BY APPLECARE OR ANY WARRANTY AGAINST DAMAGE. IT IS A PORTABLE DEVICE AND WILL EVENTUALLY GET BROKEN.



    Anyways, I'll buy when there is a significant update. READ: A CAMERA WORTH A CRAP. The current camera is UNUSABLE.



    Edit: I thought this was a CONVERGENCE device. Without a decent camera, it is not.



    Edit 2: Thinking about it, the iPhone is the same as my (now long replaced) 5-year old Palm Treo 650, but with better graphics and Apple-authorized iTunes integration. Oh yeah, iPhone also has "Visual Voicemail" but really THAT'S IT. BUT, the 650 could be tethered to my laptop for free unlimted internet access...
  • Reply 16 of 47
    I am supporting Apple's use of a dual core A9 Cortex based chip. A dual core iPhone seems like the next logical step coupled with a PowerVR SGX chip with OpenCL and Grand Central support. Probably 16GB and 32GB sizes with 256MB of RAM. Maybe dedicated VRAM for the SGX. I'm hoping for 802.11n support too. They'll probably also enable video recording support. I'm betting they'd keep the current 8GB iPhone 3G model on as a low cost model though at $149, and keep the current $199 and $299 price points for any new models. It doesn't seem like Apple would go for a major hardware overhaul and lower prices on the new models.



    My concern with the dual core A9 Cortex though is that I haven't really heard anything concrete about power consumption relative to current generation ARM parts and I was still getting the impression that the A9 and especially the MPCore multicore designs were targeted for larger devices like MIDs and tablets more to nip at Intel's Atom than at cell phones which have greater battery constraints.



    EDIT: For interest, Palm's Pre looks to use a ARM A8 with unknown clock speed. This'll be quite a bit faster than the current iPhone's processor. So Apple will have to go with a higher clocked ARM A8 or to an A9 to stay in the lead.
  • Reply 17 of 47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IHateRegistering View Post


    Ditto. 3G didn't offer me enough to justify a repurchase. Even though the screen of my 1G is cracked. Sucks Apple or AT&T won't warranty it. DID I SAY THAT LOUD ENOUGH IT IS TOTALLY GHEY THAT THE IPHONE IS NOT COVERED BY APPLECARE OR ANY WARRANTY AGAINST DAMAGE. IT IS A PORTABLE DEVICE AND WILL EVENTUALLY GET BROKEN.



    Anyways, I'll buy when there is a significant update. READ: A CAMERA WORTH A CRAP. The current camera is UNUSABLE.



    Edit: I thought this was a CONVERGENCE device. Without a decent camera, it is not.



    Edit 2: Thinking about it, the iPhone is the same as my (now long replaced) 5-year old Palm Treo 650, but with better graphics and Apple-authorized iTunes integration. Oh yeah, iPhone also has "Visual Voicemail" but really THAT'S IT. BUT, the 650 could be tethered to my laptop for free unlimted internet access...



    Edit 3: Hahaha the 650 also had video record functionality.



    C'mon. I own and love my iPhone but a significant update is well past due. I'm not even going to mention COPY AND PASTE but it would be mighty handy when I'm using the NOTES app (oh yeah, doesn't that need sync support?!)
  • Reply 18 of 47
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    I hope it has bigger, louder stereo speakers so I can get good resonance with farting Apps, a smell simulation unit would be handy to add a bit of atmosphere.



    Methane powercell, perhaps?
  • Reply 19 of 47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


    I hope it has bigger, louder stereo speakers so I can get good resonance with farting Apps, a smell simulation unit would be handy to add a bit of atmosphere.



    Methane powercell, perhaps?



    Speaking of speakers, it seems no matter how I hold the iPhone I am covering up 1 or both of the speakers, totally muffling the sound. Oh yeah, and they are NO WHERE NEAR LOUD ENOUGH... AND NEITHER IS THE RINGER!!!
  • Reply 20 of 47
    With all this ranting and raving I forgot to mention that AT&T'S COVERAGE BLOWS DONKEY'S KONG!!!



    I hope SJ reads this... and cares.
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