OS X on x86 machines - Apple Scared

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in macOS edited January 2014
Answer me this - why doesn't apple get os x working on wintel machines.



microsoft is huge and bill is the richest guy - why - software sales.



Is apple scared they will loose hardware sales if they do this - which asks the question: all you mac heads out there love the machine or the software? i personally will still get apple boxes because they are quality made little rippers.



but just think of it - an os that will widely inflitrate the pc market (we all know that windows is pants and that many people will change the software if they can keep their crappy 3 gig machines) ok not crappy just different.



apple can then say - hey you can use our operating system but buy some hardware too which is designed to run it best.



apple can't loose i reckon. so enough rambling from me - what do you guys and gals out there think.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 15
    zozo Posts: 3,115member
    fyi, this subject has been pummeled to the ground and then some. you're new so here goes...



    1) Apple is a hardware company. Something like 80 to 90% of their revenue is hardware.



    2) Linux is FREE and has yet to take over the world. Why the hell would people pay for another OS? BeOS, OS/2, and many others have tried, and failed miserably. MS cannot be beat at their own game.



    Apple will remain a niche player for a while. The vast majority of people just DO NOT CARE what OS they are running, let alone know what it is. They go and ask "does it run this?" and "whats the cheapest model?". Unfortunately, Macs do not always fit in that category.
  • Reply 2 of 15
    sushiismsushiism Posts: 131member
    no one would buy it, esp seen as it would be a secondary OS to most people, they're much better off selling machines. Heck I'd have to admit I probably wouldn't buy it seen as it would be so damn easy to get it anyway. They wouldn't stand a chance, I bet ms don't make much at all off upgrade sales to home users seen as they just get copies off their friends and the only os they buy is the licence to the one the comes with the machine. Plus they wouldn't make machines anymore so us people who also like the machine half of apple would be stuck with filthy pc machines. Bah wish people would shut up about this, theres no need for it to be ported at all unless your some cheapskate who wants it in a filthy £500 dell or whatever. I'm currently on a Ti800 and sure someone may be showing off a 2.8ghzwhatever intel proc but the damn thing doesnt do things faster than me and is slower in some cases, plus its larger, hotter and the screen is shite
  • Reply 3 of 15
    Yes, yes, this has been rehashed to death here and on dozens of other Apple-related web sites...



    Also, don't forget that Apple would lose all Classic compatibility, probably some Carbon, and all apps with and assembly tweaks or AltiVec optimizations. Developers already took a HUGE hit with all the retooling it took to fix up their apps in Carbon or Cocoa. Asking developers to have to redo a large portion of their code AGAIN would practically be suicidal.



    If anything, Mac on x86 would be used as a last resort.
  • Reply 4 of 15
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    Microsoft makes its cash on OEM sales. Do you think Dell would buddy up with Apple and OS X all their machines?







    this has been done to deah...



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  • Reply 5 of 15
    apple is a hardware company...at the moment

    switching would be suicide.....



    for the person above who posted that pc hardware

    is crap...apple parts are the same as pc parts

    apart from the cpu/mobo design

    pci bus etc etc...



    brad is correct...people would give up

    software dev on the mac if theres any cpu/arch

    change..



    os x is good..not great....good unix base though

    it wouldnt make a dent on x86 or may...

    win2k is solid & works great as does linux & bsd

    so unless there was a compelling reason people

    wouldny touch os x on x86...assuming apple

    had their own overpriced x86 box.....

    the low hardware cost & easy availability of parts

    would kill them





    note. this is not a rant...i use pc's very heavily

    & just bought a ti800
  • Reply 6 of 15
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    Another reason: they already tried selling the OS with the clones and they failed, almost died.
  • Reply 7 of 15
    stunnedstunned Posts: 1,096member
    Steve Jobs already made alot of Mac users unhappy by charging for .Mac



    He will be losing the support of all his loyal Mac leigons if he allow OS X to run on wondows....



    And somehow, OS X on windoz jus doesn't look right with those ugly looking machines......
  • Reply 8 of 15
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    [quote]Originally posted by stunned:

    <strong>Steve Jobs already made alot of Mac users unhappy by charging for .Mac



    He will be losing the support of all his loyal Mac leigons if he allow OS X to run on wondows....



    And somehow, OS X on windoz jus doesn't look right with those ugly looking machines...... </strong><hr></blockquote>



    OS X on Windows? How do you figure?
  • Reply 9 of 15
    satchmosatchmo Posts: 2,699member
    [quote]Originally posted by ZO:

    <strong>Apple will remain a niche player for a while. The vast majority of people just DO NOT CARE what OS they are running, let alone know what it is. They go and ask "does it run this?" and "whats the cheapest model?". Unfortunately, Macs do not always fit in that category.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Alas, the truth hurts.

    The majority of people accept mediocrity and the status quo.
  • Reply 10 of 15
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    Yes...this has been beaten to death, but I feel the need to be a howler.



    If Apple licensed OS X to OEMs and used the Microsoft model, those systems would lack the tight software/hardware integration of a Macintosh. Imagine the headache Apple would have trying to get everyone else's hardware to work with OS X. This would severely limit Apple's ability to innovate since they'd spend most of their time writing drivers and certifying hardware.



    The Power Computing model doesn't work either. All you end up with in a bunch of shitty Mac boxes that undercut Apple's own sales. These shit boxes also damage the image of the Macintosh as a quality platform.



    Maybe there is a way Apple can get OEM licensing to work, but no one's been able to come up with a good plan so far.



    Personally, I think the switch campaign is a better way to grab market share. Apple just needs to refine OS X even further and find a suitable replacement for the G4. x86 is not a suitable replacement.
  • Reply 11 of 15
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    Sheep come to mind...
  • Reply 12 of 15
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    [quote]Originally posted by Bigc:

    <strong>Sheep come to mind...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Sorry, I was bored.
  • Reply 13 of 15
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    DéjÃ*-vu? <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />



    ( <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> )
  • Reply 14 of 15
    cubedudecubedude Posts: 1,556member
    If UBB search was working, I'd pull up a list of at least 20 threads on this subject.
  • Reply 15 of 15
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    [quote]Originally posted by CubeDude:

    <strong>If UBB search was working, I'd pull up a list of at least 20 threads on this subject.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    ...brought to you by the letter i no less...
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