Will Blu-Ray Ever Be Add To Apple Products?
Hey guys. I was reading a few blogs and came across this article http://www.businessinsider.com/apple...blu-ray-2009-2 stating the possibility of Apple products having Blu-Ray support in the future. Do you guys think Apple will ever add Blu-Ray support to products such as MacBooks?
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Hey guys. I was reading a few blogs and came across this article http://www.businessinsider.com/apple...blu-ray-2009-2 stating the possibility of Apple products having Blu-Ray support in the future. Do you guys think Apple will ever add Blu-Ray support to products such as MacBooks?
Yes but it'll be a while. Apple needs a slot loading Blu-ray player that is very thin and they need it at a cost that doesn't break the bank.
Maybe early to mid 2010?
Hey guys. I was reading a few blogs and came across this article http://www.businessinsider.com/apple...blu-ray-2009-2 stating the possibility of Apple products having Blu-Ray support in the future. Do you guys think Apple will ever add Blu-Ray support to products such as MacBooks?
http://www.macrumors.com/2009/02/27/...r-and-cheaper/
Personally I think Apple and Steve Jobs wants BluRay in their products. If that big bag of hurt is gone expect a rapid implementation on Apples part. If what I've read is true it does highlight Apples strength in the marketplace. It implies that they got Sony and all the other patent holders, that are members of the BluRay association, to bend to their will. It also means that we should be seeing much cheaper BluRay hardware on all computers. At the moment this looks well played on Apples part.
Dave
Apple needs a slot loading Blu-ray player that is very thin and they need it at a cost that doesn't break the bank.
Panasonic make them already.... just need to get apple to say yes...
Hey guys. I was reading a few blogs and came across this article http://www.businessinsider.com/apple...blu-ray-2009-2 stating the possibility of Apple products having Blu-Ray support in the future. Do you guys think Apple will ever add Blu-Ray support to products such as MacBooks?
Yes, but is will only be supported on Mac's with Display Port. Earlier Mac's will not have the copy protections that Blu-ray demands. Ireland, I believe this copy protection is the bag-of-hurts that Steve was referring to. Blu-ray is forcing a hardware architecture change to the Mac to prevent us from coping their disks.
There are a number of reasons for this:
1) The Blu-ray Disc Association will soon offer "one stop" licensing terms for Blu-ray technology that will be substanially cheaper than current licensing terms--something Apple definitely wants.
2) Unless you are on the Verizon FIOS broadband system, downloading 720p movies with iTunes for Apple TV ties up the broadband connection too long for many users.
3) The imposition of monthly download limits by Internet Service Providers could put a kibosh on downloadable movies for many users.
4) Apple MacBook Pros, iMacs and Mac Pros only need minor hardware and software upgrades to fully support Blu-ray discs, including HDCP support. Remember, a couple of optical disc manufacturers have already begun shipping BD-RE drives that will fit even in the current MacBook Pros, so that means BD-RE drives thin enough to fit not only in the MacBook Pro but also the current iMac case are available.
The answer could be a surprising yes!
There are a number of reasons for this:
1) The Blu-ray Disc Association will soon offer "one stop" licensing terms for Blu-ray technology that will be substanially cheaper than current licensing terms--something Apple definitely wants.
2) Unless you are on the Verizon FIOS broadband system, downloading 720p movies with iTunes for Apple TV ties up the broadband connection too long for many users.
3) The imposition of monthly download limits by Internet Service Providers could put a kibosh on downloadable movies for many users.
4) Apple MacBook Pros, iMacs and Mac Pros only need minor hardware and software upgrades to fully support Blu-ray discs, including HDCP support. Remember, a couple of optical disc manufacturers have already begun shipping BD-RE drives that will fit even in the current MacBook Pros, so that means BD-RE drives thin enough to fit not only in the MacBook Pro but also the current iMac case are available.
1. A definite step in the right direction.
2. Cable offers acceptable speeds with over 30Mbps bandwith in plenty of areas and a whole movie doesn't have to be downloaded to play.
3. Could be a factor for heavy users even though comcasts' limit would take some work to breach.
4. I'm still seeing very expensive pricing on the slot load Blu-ray drives.
Plus like others have mentioned there's no slim blu-ray drive available and if there does happen to be one, it isn't cheap by any means. Except for the MacPro (for authoring purposes) I wouldn't expect to see blu-ray on any Mac.
I wish we could sticky one of these threads. Every week someone asks when blu-ray will be in Macs!!!!
FastMac.com sells a blu-ray writer that's supposed to work with iMacs, iBooks, Minis, MacBooks, etc. With all the discussion here about why BluRay isn't available, I assumed there was an issue with this (other than the fact that it's a $1,000 drive). Has anyone ever tried this, or know of a reason it can or can't work?
Mac OS X doesn't natively support blu-ray drives to my knowledge. I hope it comes with software....
I don't think that drive will work in any of the uni-body MacBooks as it doesn't appear to be thin enough. The drives used in the uni-body MacBook and MacBook Pro are really friggin thin!
Other than Blu-Ray authoring whats the point of having blu-ray drives? Putting blu-ray drives in Macs only makes you not use Apple's store for renting/purchasing movies.
Plus like others have mentioned there's no slim blu-ray drive available and if there does happen to be one, it isn't cheap by any means. Except for the MacPro (for authoring purposes) I wouldn't expect to see blu-ray on any Mac.
I wish we could sticky one of these threads. Every week someone asks when blu-ray will be in Macs!!!!
I'm a bit nonplussed by why Blu-ray is a good fit for computers in general.
If I have a HDTV and a nice surround sound setup I'm going to simply buy the $250 Blu-ray player from Samsung/Sony/Panny or whomever and view the movies as they should be.
Adding a Blu-ray player to an iMac gains you what? HD on a 24" computer screen is good but inferior to a good HDTV.
The backup angle isn't quite there as well for a majority of people. How many people regularly need 25-50GB backups?
I can see the Mac Pro getting a full size recording drive and some support in the next DVD Studio Pro but iMac and Macbooks ....nyet.
720p video isn't half that bad especially on smaller screens.
Other than Blu-Ray authoring whats the point of having blu-ray drives? Putting blu-ray drives in Macs only makes you not use Apple's store for renting/purchasing movies.
Plus like others have mentioned there's no slim blu-ray drive available and if there does happen to be one, it isn't cheap by any means. Except for the MacPro (for authoring purposes) I wouldn't expect to see blu-ray on any Mac.
I wish we could sticky one of these threads. Every week someone asks when blu-ray will be in Macs!!!!
The ability to back up 50GB of data on one CD sized disc doesn't appeal to you at all? But yes, the main appeal is movies. Apple's store for renting and purchasing movies doesn't compare in any way to the quality of BluRay. If you think the option would be too expensive, then don't order it... it's not like they would raise the price of every Mac $500 to cover the option.
As for movies, I'd love to have blu-ray in my Macs but probably couldn't justify the cost at the current levels. I have a blu-ray player in my home theater and love HD movies. But even as a technology loving gadget geek, the experience still leaves much to be desired.
In fact I actually hate blu-ray, and simply use it due to the lack of alternatives. (yet) Given how poor my opinion is of blu-ray, I'm not terribly surprised that Apple hasn't dove in head first. If a good number of IT workers / movie-buffs (like myself) aren't convinced yet, the general public won't be for the foreseeable future.
But to be fair, Apple has waited too long on some things in the past (like CD burning). In comparison, burning is something that the masses were already doing while Apple stood idly by. In this scenario Apple is only neglecting what is still, as of today, a niche market.
The ability to back up 50GB of data on one CD sized disc doesn't appeal to you at all? But yes, the main appeal is movies. Apple's store for renting and purchasing movies doesn't compare in any way to the quality of BluRay. If you think the option would be too expensive, then don't order it... it's not like they would raise the price of every Mac $500 to cover the option.
Not at $38 a pop
When you can simply buy a SATA Drive Dock $39
and a 320GB hard drive for $50
Optical is a great solution if it's cheaper per gigabyte than competing technology but Blu-ray is slow by comparison
In fact I actually hate blu-ray, and simply use it due to the lack of alternatives. (yet) Given how poor my opinion is of blu-ray, I'm not terribly surprised that Apple hasn't dove in head first. If a good number of IT workers / movie-buffs (like myself) aren't convinced yet, the general public won't be for the foreseeable future.
I'm not the biggest fan of Blu-ray as many here know but I never bought the whole backup strategy (considering how slow Blu-ray really is) and never really saw the marriage of Blu-ray and computers as something that made sense. I don't even like watching DVD on my computer.
I think people need to realize that Blu-ray is a non-starter on a Mac. In fact I'd rather pump ripped DVD into a device that upscales than keep dealing with optical players. I've owned few optical players that I didn't eventually have a problem with.
1) Quad-core chip.
2) Blu-ray burner with updated iMovie/iDvd.
Two things are holding me back from updating to the new 17" macbook pro.
1) Quad-core chip.
2) Blu-ray burner with updated iMovie/iDvd.
I think you'll get #1 with the next update.
#2 is iffy.
http://www.itproportal.com/storage/n...ownloads-grow/