Apple uses Windows based Gear

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in AppleOutsider edited January 2014
Hi everyone, I thought I would introduce myself before I get flamed horrendously. I wrote an article recently about a recent visit to the Apple store and how I found out that they use Windows Mobile powered devices to complete transactions. I thought it was really ironic.



The article can be found here: Link to the Article



Nice to meet everyone and I hope I get involved in more lively discussions.

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  • Reply 1 of 19
    technictechnic Posts: 4member
    Oops, I didn't see the guidelines and I'm not sure if this is considered spam. I'd like to start a discussion regarding that topic so it's not an artificial means of getting more hits or something. Please delete this if it is considered spam.
  • Reply 2 of 19
    aizmovaizmov Posts: 989member
    Old



    and Apple is already in the process of migrating to iPhone based devices
  • Reply 3 of 19
    piotpiot Posts: 1,346member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by technic View Post


    I thought it was really ironic.



    Did you? Well it's not!



    The Apple stores were have been around long before the iPhone and iPod Touch. What were they supposed to use ? As another poster has said... Apple will be moving the POS tech to their own stuff.



    You're an "Examiner". Try examining next time.
  • Reply 4 of 19
    technictechnic Posts: 4member
    Even if they are transitioning as you suggest, the fact that they used them at all is ironic when you consider the numerous hilarious, yet poignant, "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" ads. The willingness to use those portable POS devices for such a long period makes it seem like the rivalry is a little manufactured. I don't buy the argument that the Mac OS isn't easily capable of handling such transactions.



    If you were the leader of Apple, wouldn't you stick with standard POS units until you could use your own technology for a mobile solution? Keep, in mind that I'm not Apple bashing. I'm looking at this from a business perspective. I couldn't imagine that it cost less to buy all those portable units than to deploy a standard POS system.
  • Reply 5 of 19
    piotpiot Posts: 1,346member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by technic View Post


    Even if they are transitioning as you suggest, the fact that they used them at all is ironic when you consider the numerous hilarious, yet poignant, "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" ads. The willingness to use those portable POS devices for such a long period makes it seem like the rivalry is a little manufactured. I don't buy the argument that the Mac OS isn't easily capable of handling such transactions.



    If you were the leader of Apple, wouldn't you stick with standard POS units until you could use your own technology for a mobile solution? Keep, in mind that I'm not Apple bashing. I'm looking at this from a business perspective. I couldn't imagine that it cost less to buy all those portable units than to deploy a standard POS system.



    Your article didn't suggest that Apple use standard POS units (What standard is that anyway?). You intimated that Apple should be using their own technology.... even though, for most of the life of the Apple stores, they had nothing suitable.



    Look technic, I really don't mean to be rude but your article is a mixed up mess of routers, Apple stores and POS systems. Whether Apple using Microsoft gear is ironic... is up for debate but it certainly is OLD news. It's nice of you to give us a head's up... but I don't think anybody here will be very interested. Sorry.
  • Reply 6 of 19
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by technic View Post


    Even if they are transitioning as you suggest, the fact that they used them at all is ironic when you consider the numerous hilarious, yet poignant, "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" ads. The willingness to use those portable POS devices for such a long period makes it seem like the rivalry is a little manufactured. I don't buy the argument that the Mac OS isn't easily capable of handling such transactions.



    If you were the leader of Apple, wouldn't you stick with standard POS units until you could use your own technology for a mobile solution? Keep, in mind that I'm not Apple bashing. I'm looking at this from a business perspective. I couldn't imagine that it cost less to buy all those portable units than to deploy a standard POS system.



    How is it the least bit ironic? Was it ironic that Apple Store employees used non-iPhones in 2006? Would it be ironic if Apple had NCR or Sony old-style registers at the front of the store? No. Apple was using an industry standard off-the-shelf device.



    Now what you really have to ask is if Apple can do this with a Windows Mobile device when it happens to be the correct solution, why are there so may reports out of Redmond that iPods and iPhones were not welcome on campus, even before the Zune was around? When MS had no corresponding solution?
  • Reply 7 of 19
    technictechnic Posts: 4member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hiro View Post


    How is it the least bit ironic? Was it ironic that Apple Store employees used non-iPhones in 2006? Would it be ironic if Apple had NCR or Sony old-style registers at the front of the store? No. Apple was using an industry standard off-the-shelf device.



    Now what you really have to ask is if Apple can do this with a Windows Mobile device when it happens to be the correct solution, why are there so may reports out of Redmond that iPods and iPhones were not welcome on campus, even before the Zune was around? When MS had no corresponding solution?



    My point is in regards to Apple using the products of the company it has specifically targeted in attack ads. I understand that the device was made by some other company and happens to run on Windows Mobile, but if I were Apple, I'd stick with what people have to come to know me.



    This would be that Apple is an innovator. They don't simply take something someone else made. They create a new item to suit your needs or to even create needs for things that didn't exist previously. Apple tends to set the bar really high for new and interesting ways to do or improve things. Why would processing payments in their store be any different? I would have held out and used a run of the mill card scanner and keypad until I had the new cool device to deploy.
  • Reply 8 of 19
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by technic View Post


    My point is in regards to Apple using the products of the company it has specifically targeted in attack ads. I understand that the device was made by some other company and happens to run on Windows Mobile, but if I were Apple, I'd stick with what people have to come to know me.



    This would be that Apple is an innovator. They don't simply take something someone else made. They create a new item to suit your needs or to even create needs for things that didn't exist previously. Apple tends to set the bar really high for new and interesting ways to do or improve things. Why would processing payments in their store be any different? I would have held out and used a run of the mill card scanner and keypad until I had the new cool device to deploy.





    You really think a business would spend the money necessary to build a product strictly for their own retail support use from scratch? What is your possible business financial case for that? There are a few dozen people in the world that give a shit about what OS runs the POS devices in an Apple store. Apple may try to change that when they "eat their own dog food" and internally deploy the POS hardware/software to make the iPod Touch work for them. But then we have the case of "look at how flexible our mobile computing platform is!" where there is only an incremental cost of adapting the dock connected reader and obvious marketing tie-in for the larger platform.
  • Reply 9 of 19
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by technic View Post


    Even if they are transitioning as you suggest, the fact that they used them at all is ironic when you consider the numerous hilarious, yet poignant, "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" ads. The willingness to use those portable POS devices for such a long period makes it seem like the rivalry is a little manufactured. I don't buy the argument that the Mac OS isn't easily capable of handling such transactions.



    If you were the leader of Apple, wouldn't you stick with standard POS units until you could use your own technology for a mobile solution? Keep, in mind that I'm not Apple bashing. I'm looking at this from a business perspective. I couldn't imagine that it cost less to buy all those portable units than to deploy a standard POS system.



    Dude you're implying that a company has feelings.

    They do not. Apple or anybody uses the best most efficient tools to get thru the work day. A company can never be ironic, since it never lived a life. Injecting emotion into brick and mortar. Like the MBP would protest being processed by the largest software company ever.... . << no no pay cash pay cash screamed the box >>



    dude have a nice day
  • Reply 10 of 19
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by technic View Post


    My point is in regards to Apple using the products of the company it has specifically targeted in attack ads. I understand that the device was made by some other company and happens to run on Windows Mobile, but if I were Apple, I'd stick with what people have to come to know me.



    This would be that Apple is an innovator. They don't simply take something someone else made. They create a new item to suit your needs or to even create needs for things that didn't exist previously. Apple tends to set the bar really high for new and interesting ways to do or improve things. Why would processing payments in their store be any different? I would have held out and used a run of the mill card scanner and keypad until I had the new cool device to deploy.



    Dude the horse is dead .move on
  • Reply 11 of 19
    dfilerdfiler Posts: 3,420member
    I've been a Mac user ever since my Mac Plus...

    ... but yet run my company's handheld inventory scanners on DOS. Yes DOS.



    Why? Because it's the best tool for our specific needs.



    I'm completely missing how this is ironic though. Dairy farmers don't heat their homes with milk powered furnaces either.
  • Reply 12 of 19
    taurontauron Posts: 911member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dfiler View Post


    I'm completely missing how this is ironic though. Dairy farmers don't heat their homes with milk powered furnaces either.



    and porn stars don't drink their own jism.
  • Reply 13 of 19
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    Tauron brought this thread back from the dead!
  • Reply 14 of 19
    And M$ uses Macs to make their ads.
  • Reply 15 of 19
    piotpiot Posts: 1,346member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by technic View Post


    and I hope I get involved in more lively discussions.



    I think it's safe to assume that technic won't be getting involved in anything else here.* He did, probably, manage to get half a dozen people to read his poorly written article though.



    Sigh! Don't you just love a polite spammer.
  • Reply 16 of 19
    spinnerlysspinnerlys Posts: 218member
    POS reminds me of "piece of shot" instead of the proper use of this abbreviation in relation to the topic.



    What does it stand for anyway?
  • Reply 17 of 19
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by spinnerlys View Post


    POS reminds me of "piece of shot" instead of the proper use of this abbreviation in relation to the topic.



    What does it stand for anyway?



    Point of Sale
  • Reply 18 of 19
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    *is a Mac user*



    *starts 20 threads about Microsoft marketing using Apple computers*



    *angrily responds to anyone mentioning Apple using Microsoft products*
  • Reply 19 of 19
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 17,421member
    Dumbest thread. Ever.
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