Apple reiterates: no interest in virtualization for Leopard
Speaking to an analyst this month, executives for Apple Computer maintained that the company has no plans to incorporate virtualization technology into the final version of its Boot Camp software that will ship as part of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard next spring.
"Apple indicated that it is very pleased with Parallels software and didn't feel the need to compete with its own version of embedded virtualization," Bear Stearns analyst Andy Neff wrote in a research note to clients this week.
The analyst recently partook in a sit-down chat with Apple Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer and Vice President of iPod Product Marketing Greg Joswiak to discuss the company's financials and future business directions.
"Apple noted that the key advantage of the current beta of Boot Camp is its superior performance in both Mac and Windows environments, while running two virtual OS environments (like Parallels) results in performance degradation," he added.
The latest round comments echo those made by Apple Vice President of Worldwide Marketing Phil Schiller back in July.
When asked by Needham & Co. analyst Charles Wolf whether the company planned to offer virtualization in Leopard, Schiller responded firmly by saying "absolutely not, the R&D would be prohibitive and we?re not going to do it. Our solution is dual boot."
Turning a deaf ear to ongoing rumors and speculation surrounding the matter, the folks over at Parallels have remained focused on strengthening their industry leading $80 virtualization software package. The solution, dubbed "Parallels Desktop for Mac," has been seeing enhancements on almost a monthly basis.
On friday, AppleInsider reported on a major upgrade to Parallels Desktop currently in the works by the Renton, Wash.-based software developer that will deliver tight integration with Apple's Boot Camp software among dozens of other enhancements.
"Apple indicated that it is very pleased with Parallels software and didn't feel the need to compete with its own version of embedded virtualization," Bear Stearns analyst Andy Neff wrote in a research note to clients this week.
The analyst recently partook in a sit-down chat with Apple Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer and Vice President of iPod Product Marketing Greg Joswiak to discuss the company's financials and future business directions.
"Apple noted that the key advantage of the current beta of Boot Camp is its superior performance in both Mac and Windows environments, while running two virtual OS environments (like Parallels) results in performance degradation," he added.
The latest round comments echo those made by Apple Vice President of Worldwide Marketing Phil Schiller back in July.
When asked by Needham & Co. analyst Charles Wolf whether the company planned to offer virtualization in Leopard, Schiller responded firmly by saying "absolutely not, the R&D would be prohibitive and we?re not going to do it. Our solution is dual boot."
Turning a deaf ear to ongoing rumors and speculation surrounding the matter, the folks over at Parallels have remained focused on strengthening their industry leading $80 virtualization software package. The solution, dubbed "Parallels Desktop for Mac," has been seeing enhancements on almost a monthly basis.
On friday, AppleInsider reported on a major upgrade to Parallels Desktop currently in the works by the Renton, Wash.-based software developer that will deliver tight integration with Apple's Boot Camp software among dozens of other enhancements.
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But yeah, still excited to see what Apple may have up their sleeve on 10.5.
(Yay first post for a newbie)
One is that I hope that MS doesn't buy Parallels as they did VPC, and two, it might not be a bad idea for Apple to do so.
All I want is to be able to work all day in MacOS X to make money.
To buy games to play in Vista. Supreme Commander specifically.
Face it. Vista with Direct X 10 looks like a fantastic games platform. Being able to buy one machine to run them all is just smart.
For me Vista is really just a great Game OS.
All I want is to be able to work all day in MacOS X to make money.
To buy games to play in Vista. Supreme Commander specifically.
Face it. Vista with Direct X 10 looks like a fantastic games platform. Being able to buy one machine to run them all is just smart.
Yes, Vista with DirectX 10 looks great. BUT most games out there take a 10-25fps hit moving from XP to Vista. I don't think Vista will be a great gaming os for quite some time.
Two things.
One is that I hope that MS doesn't buy Parallels as they did VPC, and two, it might not be a bad idea for Apple to do so.
Talk about nightmare scenarios. Apple needs to form some kind of commitment to these guys or once again get Apple's nuts in the crusher.
Would rather see Apple help out the Wine project which brings the Windows API to other operating systems; Using Crossover, I'm already able to run Office 97 and Internet Explorer 6 under Tiger without needing Windows installed. I'd also like to see Apple release Cocoa for Windows and possible even Linux. Together, these would remove some users need to install and run Windows, helping to break Microsoft's stranglehold on the industry.
Two words: Yellow Box
Yes, Vista with DirectX 10 looks great. BUT most games out there take a 10-25fps hit moving from XP to Vista. I don't think Vista will be a great gaming os for quite some time.
Oh. that's too bad. Some of the screens from Crysis look spectacular. But with a really powerful new quad core or possible Ocho-Core Mac and the latest and greatest Graphics card is that really going to come into play? Lucky for me, next year is Mac Desktop upgrade time.
Thnaks for the info
Oh. that's too bad. Some of the screens from Crysis look spectacular. But with a really powerful new quad core or possible Ocho-Core Mac and the latest and greatest Graphics card is that really going to come into play? Lucky for me, next year is Mac Desktop upgrade time.
Thnaks for the info
Yeah. Echoing what Emig said, everything I've read suggests that Vista will not be a gamer's dream come true (lower frame rates, performance hits from all that useless eyecandy).
http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?op...k=view&id=2388
Would rather see Apple help out the Wine project which brings the Windows API to other operating systems; Using Crossover, I'm already able to run Office 97 and Internet Explorer 6 under Tiger without needing Windows installed. I'd also like to see Apple release Cocoa for Windows and possible even Linux. Together, these would remove some users need to install and run Windows, helping to break Microsoft's stranglehold on the industry.
Forget Office 97, go to OpenOffice.org and download OpenOffice. It runs on both Windows and Mac, and is compatible with MS Office. I've downloaded it on both my PC and Mac. Knocks spots off MS Office, and it's free. No need to buy from MS ever again!!
Yeah. Echoing what Emig said, everything I've read suggests that Vista will not be a gamer's dream come true (lower frame rates, performance hits from all that useless eyecandy).
http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?op...k=view&id=2388
Wow, is that anything like the performance hit from OS X's useless eye candy?
Wow, is that anything like the performance hit from OS X's useless eye candy?
The reasons I've seen for that has to do with the fact that MS changed much graphics coding, and the games that are out are coded for XP. Once they are reworked, and new games come out, it will be fine.
While they're at it, Apple should do something about the one-and-only major application that doesn't have a Mac or open source counterpart--FrameMaker. The loss of Classic with Intel hardware means we can no longer run older Mac versions of FrameMaker on current Macs. With a bit of effort from the right people, the Wine compatibility rating of FrameMaker could be raised from Bronze to Gold.
If Apple wants to sell high-end Mac Pro desktops to the engineering and scientific community, they need a way to run FrameMaker on Macs. There's nothing around that can handle lengthy, complex documents like it can.
While that may be true, you can't dismiss the eye candy vista brings to the table has a performance hit. The whole operating system uses MUCH more resources than xp ever thought of. A lot of that is from aero. WinSAT rated my system a 4 out of 5 with a 7900gs, 1.5gigs of ram, and an athlon 64 3400+ venice. Pretty sad. I'm not going to upgrade my system so I can run vista at full bore AND games too. I think I'll be waiting quite a while for D10 games.