There will be a classic and new Finder

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in macOS edited January 2014
I've seen the keynote where Steve Jobs and that other (younger) guy are talking about Leopard. When Time Machine is discussed, this guy says (no exact quote): "This is the Finder, the regular one". Why would he say that?

Perhaps we only see tiny changes to the current Finder because they keep it in not to confuse people who work with it day in, day out? And the new Finder is drastically different?



Personally I hoped for a single updated Finder. Tabs, MOVE->PASTE functionality and all the weird quirks fixed, plus a new open/save dialog Windows-style, but perhaps Apple has invented some kind of media browser?

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  • Reply 1 of 14
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dacloo View Post


    Perhaps we only see tiny changes to the current Finder because they keep it in not to confuse people who work with it day in, day out? And the new Finder is drastically different?



    Yes, Time Machine is the new Finder. No need to read more than that in what they say. Besides, it is only 4 days now from the keynote that will hopefully clear this and other points.
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  • Reply 2 of 14
    kim kap solkim kap sol Posts: 2,987member
    I'm hoping for a shockingly new Finder...one that breaks from the very conservative browsing UI seen in all OSes today.



    A timeline UI to browse files is a must. Time Machine is an awesome concept (despite the ugly interface) and I'd love to see it applied to browsing files.
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  • Reply 3 of 14
    dacloodacloo Posts: 890member
    Kim Sap Sol; that is in fact very interesting; perhaps this 'Finder' will have time machine "embedded", e.g by using a slider to get back and forth in time.



    I would also like to be able to "group files by criteria", e.g photo's by saying color=black&white (a key/value for Spotlight) or project=myProject, simply by using tags.
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  • Reply 4 of 14
    jvbjvb Posts: 210member
    Remember those Top Secret features (plural). They have something for us that must be substantially unique. I thought Time Machine was a huge feature, but it obviously is larger than that even.
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  • Reply 5 of 14
    Quote:

    (despite the ugly interface)



    I think it's gorgeous. What's 'ugly' about it? (think's of ugly Windows backup using windows 'xplorer' interface...circa 2000 and xp...)



    Nothing more beautiful than staring at the cosmos. Now we get to do that on Leopard 'back up'.



    Lemon Bon Bon
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  • Reply 6 of 14
    dacloodacloo Posts: 890member
    I think the classic XP look isn't ugly, and Windows Explorer rules MacOS Finder usabiliy wise. All a matter of personal preference.

    Time machine is too much eye candy for me, it makes me feel Apple thinks I'm dumb instead of an experienced user.
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  • Reply 7 of 14
    Ive got to admit dacloo, if ive got to use an XP machine at work or at home, the FIRST thing that gets done, is remove all the plastic stupid windows gimick buttons etc etc.

    I still think that MacOS is still far superior to XP in so many ways.
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  • Reply 8 of 14
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    Originally Posted by dacloo View Post


    When Time Machine is discussed, this guy says (no exact quote): "This is the Finder, the regular one". Why would he say that?



    Because he's a doofus of a presenter and he was about to give away something. He was "checking" himself.
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  • Reply 9 of 14
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    Because he's a doofus of a presenter and he was about to give away something. He was "checking" himself.



    I checked out the video, it was deliberate. "I'm sitting on the Leopard desktop... this is the standard Finder". No big deal, cause it is the standard Finder.
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  • Reply 10 of 14
    dacloodacloo Posts: 890member
    Hi Neebong, what I actually ment is the "classic look" (the default WinXP look is very, very ugly IMHO). Yes, MacOS is prettier (although I do not like the aqua scrollbars).



    Ireland: why would he specificly talk about "standard"? Why not simply say: "this is the Finder"? I think he accidentely hinted us about something 'new'!
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  • Reply 11 of 14
    areseearesee Posts: 776member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dacloo View Post


    why would he specificly talk about "standard"? Why not simply say: "this is the Finder"? I think he accidentely hinted us about something 'new'!



    I took it to mean the current Finder window verses the Time Machine window.



    If I remember correctly, Time Machine presented a 'Finder' window showing the state of the Finder at the time selected. Where 'Standard Finder' could be the window of the current Finder.
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  • Reply 12 of 14
    s.metcalfs.metcalf Posts: 1,019member
    I would like to see more colour brought back but not in a candy-bar way like Aqua, more dark professional looking colours with more choice in colour schemes. Tiger has a choice of only Blue and Graphite appearance. Even OS 9 had more choice in the colour for menu bars and scroll bars.
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  • Reply 13 of 14
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
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    Tiger has a choice of only Blue and Graphite appearance. Even OS 9 had more choice in the colour for menu bars and scroll bars.



    This is perhaps the problem. I have the impression that having many choices for colors and themes in the OS level, is seen at Apple as a factor contributing or leading to confusion about the operating system identity. And it is known how well Apple has established a solid visual identity for Mac OS X based on the one and unique appearance of the operating system's elements. I feel that somehow Apple associates at some point the visual appeareance with the brand. Having people say for Mac OS X "just another Linux flavor" is not desirable. Or it is seen as very bad. This is just my impression.
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  • Reply 14 of 14
    Time Machine + Spotlight = Ideal UI



    You type a search term and instantly results come up which you can open quickly with a mere keystroke. Even deleted files appear, no problem. You can open apps this way, open documents, etc. There are no folders, no labels, no need for organization of any kind. Just type what you want and open it.
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