Apple stores increasing focus on Windows stragglers

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Apple's retail stores will begin courting Windows users with added finesse this spring, as new product launches from the company help pique interest in its Mac line of personal computer, one analyst says.



In the Wednesday edition of "Wolf Bytes," Needham and Co. analyst Charles Wolf explains a strategic shift in focus for the international retail chain, which was originally conceived to provide Macintosh users with a shopping experience that was superior to what they found in computer and consumer electronics chains.



"Their key priority is to convert Windows users to the Mac and grow Mac sales," the analyst wrote. Come the launch of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard this spring, he expects "the stores to play a pivotal role in educating the hoards of Windows users" about the system's Boot Camp feature, which allows for Windows installations to coexist on a Mac.



Following the release of Leopard, Apple in June will roll out the iPhone, and again, Wolf says company stores will play an important role in signing up customers to this multimedia phone. "Unlike the iPod, whose distribution has become ubiquitous, the iPhone will be sold only in the Apple online and retail stores, along with CingularÂ?s carrier stores," he wrote.



In his report Wednesday, the Needham analyst also rationalized the recent performance of Apple's retail segment, which upon first glance appeared to turn in a dismal performance during the company's December quarter. He noted that while total visitors during the three-month period reached a record 28 million, visitors per store declined by 18 percent, reflecting the higher store count in the quarter.Â* Likewise, he said, record revenues of $1.14 billion translated into a 19 percent decline in same store sales.Â*

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"But looks can be deceiving," the analyst wrote. "The decline in same-store sales solely reflected a sharp decline in iPod sales.Â* Last year, the Apple Stores were the only reliable source for iPods. This year, iPods were available in 40,000 locations, mostly in the U.S. There was an inevitable decline in iPod sales at the Apple Stores, then, because of the rapid expansion of the iPodÂ?s distribution."



Wolf said better news for Apple retail came in the form of same-store Mac revenues, which rose by 25 percent to account for 47 percent of total store sales in December. That latter figure, he noted, is up from 30 percent during the same quarter one year ago.
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  • Reply 1 of 41
    First post!! w00t!!

    Pushing boot camp is a good idea. That made me switch about two months ago. Funny thing is I don't miss windoze at all.
  • Reply 2 of 41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bigdaddyp View Post


    First post!! w00t!!

    Pushing boot camp is a good idea. That made me switch about two months ago. Funny thing is I don't miss windoze at all.



    Same here, installed Parallels, dumped it 3 months later and don't miss it at all.



    JW
  • Reply 3 of 41
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    "But looks can be deceiving," the analyst wrote.



    Wow. Could this be an analyst who actually looks beyond the surface?
  • Reply 4 of 41
    mcdavemcdave Posts: 1,927member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bigdaddyp View Post


    First post!! w00t!!

    Pushing boot camp is a good idea. That made me switch about two months ago. Funny thing is I don't miss windoze at all.



    Only two months and you're already calling it Windoze how's it feel to be awake?



    McD
  • Reply 5 of 41
    mcdavemcdave Posts: 1,927member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Apple's retail stores will begin courting Windows users with added finesse this spring, as new product launches from the company help pique interest in its Mac line of personal computer, one analyst says.



    ..they don't walk through the doors first!



    McD
  • Reply 6 of 41
    mcdavemcdave Posts: 1,927member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jwarrenod View Post


    Same here, installed Parallels, dumped it 3 months later and don't miss it at all.



    JW



    Could Boot Camp/Parallels be the Mac's first 'trojan' ??



    McD
  • Reply 7 of 41
    Boot Camp is what convinced me to buy an Intel based Mac. Now I have best of both worlds, being the Gaming on the Windows side, and my life on the OS X side. Only because I can have both worlds on the Apple products, will I continue to buy them in the future. (OSX86 is too much of a hassle for me.)



    But I'd love to start quizzing the sales reps on their knowledge of Boot Camp and Parellels. Also, very excited to see if Apple will fully support (including fan drivers) for WinXP and Vista when 10.5 comes around.



    I will always be a dual platform kinda guy... though truth be known, I spend a good 80% of my time in OS X.
  • Reply 8 of 41
    and how do you get the windows users that have good Monitors that they do not want to give up over to mac?

    The macpro starting at $2400 may be to much for most people and the mini has pos video and laptop parts.
  • Reply 9 of 41
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    Originally Posted by Joe_the_dragon View Post


    and how do you get the windows users that have good Monitors that they do not want to give up over to mac?

    The macpro starting at $2400 may be to much for most people and the mini has pos video and laptop parts.



    What about the Mac Mini??? 600 dollars (way less if you buy refurb) seems fair
  • Reply 10 of 41
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    Originally Posted by mcamargo View Post


    What about the Mac Mini??? 600 dollars (way less if you buy refurb) seems fair



    What about those who want the ATI (or NVidia) chip for their windows stuff, and mac stuff too?



    Why not get an iMac, and hook up your sweet monitor to that as an external 2nd display?
  • Reply 11 of 41
    That can't be... I thought they never did.... He even went away from reciting figures...
  • Reply 12 of 41
    mcdavemcdave Posts: 1,927member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    "But looks can be deceiving," the analyst wrote. "The decline in same-store sales solely reflected a sharp decline in iPod sales.* Last year, the Apple Stores were the only reliable source for iPods. This year, iPods were available in 40,000 locations, mostly in the U.S. There was an inevitable decline in iPod sales at the Apple Stores, then, because of the rapid expansion of the iPod?s distribution."



    This could be Apple's undoing, is anyone else finding these stores are pushing customers onto other products with the old "it's got everything the iPod has and..(insert novelty feature that's only real use is to serve as a distraction here)" without even mentioning the iTS and usability?



    So while Apple can penetrate the retail turf of traditional consumer electronics they also fall foul of the commodity sale. I think the iPod will start to haemorrhage market-share this year and not just because of iPhone, they need to re-educate consumers to ask 'how' not 'what'



    McD
  • Reply 13 of 41
    elixirelixir Posts: 782member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by McDave View Post


    This could be Apple's undoing, is anyone else finding these stores are pushing customers onto other products with the old "it's got everything the iPod has and..(insert novelty feature that's only real use is to serve as a distraction here)" without even mentioning the iTS and usability?



    So while Apple can penetrate the retail turf of traditional consumer electronics they also fall foul of the commodity sale. I think the iPod will start to haemorrhage market-share this year and not just because of iPhone, they need to re-educate consumers to ask 'how' not 'what'



    McD





    i agree.



    apple needs to cut back on selling ipods through other retail outlets.
  • Reply 14 of 41
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,510member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Elixir View Post


    i agree.



    apple needs to cut back on selling ipods through other retail outlets.



    You're kidding, right?
  • Reply 15 of 41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by camroidv27 View Post


    What about those who want the ATI (or NVidia) chip for their windows stuff, and mac stuff too?



    Why not get an iMac, and hook up your sweet monitor to that as an external 2nd display?



    Duh, yes.. or as a 1st display of MacMini / MacPro or "2nd" display of any other Mac.. or as a 3rd or 4th or 27th display of the MacPro.

    This is a very non-issue "issue", you know..
  • Reply 16 of 41
    ipeonipeon Posts: 1,122member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joe_the_dragon View Post


    and how do you get the windows users that have good Monitors that they do not want to give up over to mac?

    The macpro starting at $2400 may be to much for most people and the mini has pos video and laptop parts.



    I agree with you and most here do too. There has been many discussions about this. It's a mystery as to why Apple doesn't offer a consumer mini tower. I would have bought one long ago. I'm not spending $2400 for a tower and the Mac mini is not upgradable - not what I want.



    It's a mystery. \
  • Reply 17 of 41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Elixir View Post


    i agree.



    apple needs to cut back on selling ipods through other retail outlets.



    Huh? Apple needs to make it's products available to anyone who's willing to buy them, anywhere, at any time. \
  • Reply 18 of 41
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Apple's retail stores will begin courting Windows users with added finesse this spring, as new product launches from the company help pique interest in its Mac line of personal computer, one analyst says.



    Quite worthwhile.



    I wonder what other Windows surprises Apple has to help this.

    eg:

    1) Fast boot/shutdown for Leopard, so you can switch to Windows in seconds. It's not virtual PC, but if it can be done in 10 seconds, that'd be interesting. I wonder if anything in the EFI can help achieve this.



    2) Import your old Windows. Plug in your legal windows machine (in the store), back it up to the Mac, and restore it to the boot camp partition. Do the hardware update and you have your old windows system instantly available on dual boot. Apple recycles the old PC (making Greenpeace happy and ensuring you don't use 2 copies of the same Windows).



    3) Bundle Parallels? I'm sure Parallels could live comfortably on $5/mac if it was bundled on every Mac. VMWare might get annoyed though.



    4) Support Win32 in Xcode (via WINE). Help windows developers port to the Mac.



    What else?
  • Reply 19 of 41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by McDave View Post


    This could be Apple's undoing, is anyone else finding these stores are pushing customers onto other products with the old "it's got everything the iPod has and..(insert novelty feature that's only real use is to serve as a distraction here)" without even mentioning the iTS and usability?



    So while Apple can penetrate the retail turf of traditional consumer electronics they also fall foul of the commodity sale. I think the iPod will start to haemorrhage market-share this year and not just because of iPhone, they need to re-educate consumers to ask 'how' not 'what'



    McD



    Meh... People who are stupid enough to fall for gimmics don't deserve to use Apple products. After a year or two when they finally realize they wasted $300 on a P.O.S. they turn around and buy an iPod/Mac.



    -Clive
  • Reply 20 of 41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Elixir View Post


    i agree.



    apple needs to cut back on selling ipods through other retail outlets.



    Nonsense. That's like moving to a smaller town so you can be more popular.
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