I really wanna try appletv in the store to see if its a good fit but these set backs are annoying, the longer it takes them to get it in the store the more my interest drops, at least get the damn thing in stores, you already have the lcds there.
By the time this drops it would have been half a year since it was announced.
But games though? Hmmm...Apple Interactive Television Box Reborn?
I think it helps to have an alternative explaination as to why the stock dropped. Unfortunately, I can't think of anything else that changed in the last two days, certainly not one that would result in a $2.50 drop overnight.
Yes... But by the same logic we can blame the crazy Chinese (article on slashdot about their stupidity with declaring internet addiction, If I had any doubt they were commies it's all gone now). Maybe that can at least be taken into account by the analyst....
Just when I think Kasper is getting pretty good at pretending to be a journalist, he writes something like this article. Come on, man.
Ahhh, just when i thik CosmoNut is getting pretty good at pretending to be a reader he writes something like this post. (according to the byline by the article, it was written "By Katie Marsal".) But i'll accept the argument that if Kasper's the editor of all that appears here, then he should have caught this.
as for the post suggesting analysts were somehow responsible for this misguided article, the way i read it, the author didn't attribute the "delay causes stock drop" presumption TO anyone, much less an to analyst: it's just an assumption voiced by the author. The analyst in the article actually says she believes Apple TV may be a hidden hit for the company. Or did i misread it--always a possibility!
good time to buy more Apple stock for me. Idiots who sold today will be sorry.
Unless you're buying very, very large blocks of stock, this little dip won't even be worth your time. Wait until it dips to 60 or just under 70... which ain't gonna happen.
"Shares of Apple Inc. slipped more than 2 percent in morning trading on the Nasdaq stock market after the consumer electronics maker said it would delay its foray into the living room by several weeks."
How about: global stock markets collapsed after the Chinese market fell 9% last night. Apple traded down with the rest of the market after fears a global slowdown could impact stocks.
Sometimes there is no news. Apple's fall today had nothing to do with the aTV delay, and everything to do with a meltdown in the markets.
Katie might want to remember that next time she tries to link cause-and-effect
100% Agree. Dow, Nasdaq, S&P got slammed down hardcore 4% in just one day on Tuesday trading. Monday trading was fine.
Edit: Still no idea on what the hell is going on. Everything is going apeshit on Bloomberg, CNBC and BBC....
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Originally Posted by Ireland
Apple TV March 20th, maybe Leopard too on March 20th?
I think the delay is... wait for it... <conspiracy theory> to coincide with late March full release of AppleTV, Leopard, new Macs, Adobe Universal CS3, movies from WB and FOX</conspiracy theory>.
So, in effect, you're saying that you're fucking stupid and have your head up your ass?
Yes most of the time I am fing stupid. However even when stupid I tend to tell the truth. It was obvious this morning when I was trading that something was not right, buys were down everywhere as well as a shake in asian markets.
In related news... on Feb. 26th, Standard & Poor's released a stock report for AAPL, and they currently rate it as a "Strong Buy".
That's great. Everyone's rating it as a good buy because they (institutional investors) want it to go up up up... because they got a whole lot more when Apple was/is at the low-$80s. Now all that needs to happen is for the stock to *actually frickin' go up past $100...!!!!11!!!" argjhsgdkjshgkjdhqhfajshdf!
That's great. Everyone's rating it as a good buy because they (institutional investors) want it to go up up up... because they got a whole lot more when Apple was/is at the low-$80s. Now all that needs to happen is for the stock to *actually frickin' go up past $100...!!!!11!!!" argjhsgdkjshgkjdhqhfajshdf!
They don't rate it highly BECAUSE institutional investors WANT it to go up. Those investors want to know whether they should change their investment strategy, or at least, tweek their portfolio. They invest for the long term, not for days, weeks, or months at a time.
Day traders jump ship at the least sign of movement.
The delay did have an effect though. Losing almost three weeks of sales on a highly anticipated product very late into the quarter will have a noticeable effect on sales, earnings, and margins. There won't be enough time left in the quarter to make up for the lost sales.
The stock price had already accounted for the amount of sales expected. now that will be cut, so the price dropped.
How much was due to the market, and how much was due to the announcement? That's hard to say.
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By the time this drops it would have been half a year since it was announced.
But games though? Hmmm...Apple Interactive Television Box Reborn?
I think so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_i...television_box
I think news must have leaked that Jobs had another meeting with his personal lawyer...
Looks like the very unstable Chinese stock market (which I would never put any money in) led the drop.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/28/bu...hp&oref=slogin
I think it helps to have an alternative explaination as to why the stock dropped. Unfortunately, I can't think of anything else that changed in the last two days, certainly not one that would result in a $2.50 drop overnight.
Yes... But by the same logic we can blame the crazy Chinese (article on slashdot about their stupidity with declaring internet addiction, If I had any doubt they were commies it's all gone now). Maybe that can at least be taken into account by the analyst....
Analysts are fucking stupid.
Analysts get your head out of your ass.
P.S. In interest of full disclosure I've been an analyst for 8 years...
So, in effect, you're saying that you're fucking stupid and have your head up your ass?
Just when I think Kasper is getting pretty good at pretending to be a journalist, he writes something like this article. Come on, man.
Ahhh, just when i thik CosmoNut is getting pretty good at pretending to be a reader he writes something like this post. (according to the byline by the article, it was written "By Katie Marsal".)
as for the post suggesting analysts were somehow responsible for this misguided article, the way i read it, the author didn't attribute the "delay causes stock drop" presumption TO anyone, much less an to analyst: it's just an assumption voiced by the author. The analyst in the article actually says she believes Apple TV may be a hidden hit for the company. Or did i misread it--always a possibility!
literucy rools!
The entire market is down today so its not only Apple.
Yes. Down over 500 points. Largest crash since 9/11.
iTV is probably only a very small factor.
good time to buy more Apple stock for me. Idiots who sold today will be sorry.
Unless you're buying very, very large blocks of stock, this little dip won't even be worth your time. Wait until it dips to 60 or just under 70... which ain't gonna happen.
Yes. Down over 500 points. Largest crash since 9/11.
iTV is probably only a very small factor.
Meh. It'll sort itself out in less than a month... I'd give it 2 weeks.
"Shares of Apple Inc. slipped more than 2 percent in morning trading on the Nasdaq stock market after the consumer electronics maker said it would delay its foray into the living room by several weeks."
How about: global stock markets collapsed after the Chinese market fell 9% last night. Apple traded down with the rest of the market after fears a global slowdown could impact stocks.
Sometimes there is no news. Apple's fall today had nothing to do with the aTV delay, and everything to do with a meltdown in the markets.
Katie might want to remember that next time she tries to link cause-and-effect
100% Agree. Dow, Nasdaq, S&P got slammed down hardcore 4% in just one day on Tuesday trading. Monday trading was fine.
Aw man. Now I'll have to wait longer to not buy an Apple TV.
AHh ahh ahhahha haha ROFLMFAO
Looks like the very unstable Chinese stock market (which I would never put any money in) led the drop.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/28/bu...hp&oref=slogin
I'm reading http://www.businessweek.com/investor...ndex_top+story
To try and figure out what the FRACK happened.
Edit: Still no idea on what the hell is going on. Everything is going apeshit on Bloomberg, CNBC and BBC....
Apple TV March 20th, maybe Leopard too on March 20th?
I think the delay is... wait for it... <conspiracy theory> to coincide with late March full release of AppleTV, Leopard, new Macs, Adobe Universal CS3, movies from WB and FOX</conspiracy theory>.
So, in effect, you're saying that you're fucking stupid and have your head up your ass?
Yes most of the time I am fing stupid. However even when stupid I tend to tell the truth. It was obvious this morning when I was trading that something was not right, buys were down everywhere as well as a shake in asian markets.
In related news... on Feb. 26th, Standard & Poor's released a stock report for AAPL, and they currently rate it as a "Strong Buy".
That's great. Everyone's rating it as a good buy because they (institutional investors) want it to go up up up... because they got a whole lot more when Apple was/is at the low-$80s.
That's great. Everyone's rating it as a good buy because they (institutional investors) want it to go up up up... because they got a whole lot more when Apple was/is at the low-$80s.
They don't rate it highly BECAUSE institutional investors WANT it to go up. Those investors want to know whether they should change their investment strategy, or at least, tweek their portfolio. They invest for the long term, not for days, weeks, or months at a time.
Day traders jump ship at the least sign of movement.
The stock price had already accounted for the amount of sales expected. now that will be cut, so the price dropped.
How much was due to the market, and how much was due to the announcement? That's hard to say.
But to discount it entirely, is wrong.