Very vague info but a new app built or based upon Opcodes Studio Vision Pro will be announced MWSF. no Specs as of yet and I assume none will come as the source of the info is worried about getting his source fired from Apple.
Will keep you upto date on any further news.
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5 months later MS will come out with something similar and act like they are innovative
But my skepticism has failed me before.
Now think about this, iDVD and DVD Studio Pro has a pretty limited audience (currently). Yet Apple still made those products. I'm sure a suite of Audio solutions would be far better received, especially the Pro line. (Real Pros already use Macs for their audio work.)
Anyhow, while I think its unlikely, if Apple does come out with these iMusic apps I too will dabble in the musical arts... (Something I haven't done in 8 years or so...)
MOTU, Emagic and Opcode need to get moving!
<strong>What's really interesting is that Opcode was shutdown by Gibson two years ago and all the Studio Vision Users have been migrating over to other sequencers. Gibson gave us no hope that the code would be for sale and that we would ever see an uprgade. Gibson is natorious for buying companies and killing them, suing the technology from its creators and burying it. Don't now why they just do it. Gibson is trying to eek out a new digital audio format and I think they saw Opcode's OMS standard as a rival??</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah look what Gibson did to Steinberger guitars. They still make them (well sorta) They aren't near the quality of the originals.
<strong>Very vague info but a new app built or based upon Opcodes Studio Vision Pro will be announced MWSF. no Specs as of yet and I assume none will come as the source of the info is worried about getting his source fired from Apple.
Will keep you upto date on any further news.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Man, I really hope you're right. I'm a former Studio Vision user who switched to both Logic and Digital Performer. Neither though are as intuitive as Vision, but I have to use 'm as Vision doesn't support VST2
Can't wait till January
[ 12-15-2001: Message edited by: macanoid? ]</p>
Jeesh, just because you're not included in the target audience doesn't mean it won't fly. A friend of mine who uses PCs is about to buy his first mac because he has heard Macs are made for music. This kind of app would be perfect for him-he does MIDI.
( Here is how the PR Draft has "Worded" it < Released during MW Expo>
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In a strategic cooperative initiative, Gibson has allowed a team of
almost a hundred programmers, and will ultimately transfer all
intellectual property to said group, of Opcode software including,
OMS, Vision, Galaxy, following some elaborate legal contractual
papers being reviewed and signed.
Meanwhile, the Source Code is already under development. An amazing
Carbon, 100% PPC, OS 8/9 & X ready Vision 5.0 will be ready within
weeks. The OS X version ties into Core Audio & MIDI Services, while
Classic OS 8/9 will use an updated OMS. ASIO-2, VST-2, mLan, Dolby
5.1/6.1/7.1/10.2 surround sound enhancements have already been
completed. A New import format supports ALL previous Vision files
from 1.0 - 4.5.1 <which is way past due!> and also opens/ edits/
saves Pro Tools, AVID, MOTU 2.x- 3.1, and all supported QT file
formats.
This is the largest Mac development team outside of Apple. Instead
of simply making a nicer UI for Video film scoring work, an entire
Video Editing technology was implemented based on a future, soon to
be released QT, and internal MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 import/export G4
optimized I/O kit.
Finally, a new 3-D graphics engine, allows creation of complete
3-D creation for CD Covers, and LOGO/Band/Label creation inside the
new Vision environment. The cool thing, here, is the video was then
attached to the 3-D system to allow "Toy Story" type Video creation
& Music scoring via MIDI & Audio. Since these were coded with
Altivec instructions, it is faster than any 3-D/Video software
available <including outboard DSP systems> by over 900%, on the Mac
OS 8/9/X on Dual G4/450 & up.
The Graphic Notation has been rewritten from scratch, based on a
full featured professional notation program. Which interfaces with a
new 64 bit Acadia & 32 bit Audio-to-Midi feature which can place a
notation score into Audio ( including MP3 ).
These features which include a streamlined GUI, including every
single dialogue box, but is open to debate for users. Therefore,
implementation will be in "Skins" allowing Classic, or Modern, to be
selected by the user. ( Except under Mac OS X ).
Obviously, these features are an extreme break from the SV Pro
product line. Careful attention was paid to place Notation, Video,
3-D, Import-Export, and improved features in the same manner as
previous versions < in Classic Skin > leaving users with zero
learning curve. While the New GUI follows Aqua user giudelines for
simplicity, and ease of use for new users.
Users with no need for many new functions will not have "Overhead"
of these new features. Each portion is Module based; Notation,
Video, Audio, 3-D, etc. Only load when chosen by the user. Leaving
out the overhead of RAM & System resources. Each "Module" has it's
own memory, and lays dormant until invoked. Making typical
bloatware, a non-issue. In fact, using the Audio & MIDI only, on
par with previous releases, the Native PPC code actually uses 1/3
less RAM than Vision 4.x.
Since so much has been altered, and object oriented Cocoa allow
such things as speech, word processing, spell check, PDF & XML,
Speech Recognition, Text to Speech, graphic editing in already
available libraries, Apple Script, and recent contact with
previously successful NeXT developers with Graphics support, we feel
a package like this is no longer "Vision", and may release
Multimedia Master product, as well as basic improved SV Pro, SVP +
Video, SVP 3-D Video. Multimedia OS has been a common suggestion...
All Code will be Open source, except where in example Dolby
Digital or other patent holders will not allow it. Thus avoiding
this happening again.Â*Â*Â*Using standard tools BSD UNIX, as used in
open source Mac OS X "Darwin" will run fairly well immediately.
Darwin for Intel, Linux, UI support, will fall into open source
efforts, respectively. Darwin for Intel support will be stricly Open
Source.....at this time.
<strong>Well did you have a hard time imagining a mass market DVD burning app? Who the hell has a DVD burner? I'd say about as many that do music on their macs?
Jeesh, just because you're not included in the target audience doesn't mean it won't fly. A friend of mine who uses PCs is about to buy his first mac because he has heard Macs are made for music. This kind of app would be perfect for him-he does MIDI.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's not hard at all to imagine a mass-market DVD burning app -- the only thing preventing it from being "mass market" is the price of DVDR drives, which is dropping quickly.
MIDI apps and PC/Mac-based digital audio have been around for years. The necessary hardware interfaces for these are already cheap.
I could see my neighbor or my uncle wanting to burn his own DVDs, but I can't imagine them wanting to do MIDI sequencing or digital audio multi-tracking. I'm not saying there's no market for MIDI & digital audio apps -- I use both of them myself -- I'm just saying I don't see either one ever being "mass market."
I don't really think it's gonna happen though.
Logic 5 will be out in January (hopefully), and I will be first in line.
Performance does worry me though. Hopefully my G4 400 will be able to cope!
You have to admit though that the PR Draft is very well written, and sounds like it could be true.
We'll see, if this ain't gonna happen, there's always Logic 5.
My composition teacher should be pleased as well, as he used to work at Opcode before they were bought by Gibson.
P.S.
Where'd you get that Press Release, I can't find it!
[ 12-19-2001: Message edited by: Composer ]</p>
i was wondering if you'd heard any more news on this rumoured new audio app from opcode.