N00b question on 10.5
I'm new to Apple
I'm getting a new Macbook from my insurance to replace a Dell. They want me to order my laptop ASAP so they can warp things up but i've been putting it off waiting for OSX 10.5
If i get it now with 10.4 will i have to pay much for the 10.5 upgrade when it comes out ?
Or should i wait for 10.5 ?
Thanx
I'm getting a new Macbook from my insurance to replace a Dell. They want me to order my laptop ASAP so they can warp things up but i've been putting it off waiting for OSX 10.5
If i get it now with 10.4 will i have to pay much for the 10.5 upgrade when it comes out ?
Or should i wait for 10.5 ?
Thanx
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I'm new to Apple
I'm getting a new Macbook from my insurance to replace a Dell. They want me to order my laptop ASAP so they can warp things up but i've been putting it off waiting for OSX 10.5
If i get it now with 10.4 will i have to pay much for the 10.5 upgrade when it comes out ?
Or should i wait for 10.5 ?
Thanx
Sure you could wait... and when 10.5 comes out you'll hear about something else on the horizon, and you'll wonder if you should wait on that. And the cycle never really gets broken. You just have to buy and don't look back.
Right now 10.4 is $130... I have a feeling 10.5 will be a bit more, but it may not. We'll see.
I've worked with some apps like Maya and XSI and when upgrades comes in they will also upgrade everybody that got it a months befor for free. Did apple ever done this ?
10.4 has been out for how long now ? 12- 14 months ?
I agree with you but 10.4 is a the end of a cycle, i just do not want to buy it and 5 days later find out that i'll have to spend a other 130$.
I've worked with some apps like Maya and XSI and when upgrades comes in they will also upgrade everybody that got it a months befor for free. Did apple ever done this ?
10.4 has been out for how long now ? 12- 14 months ?
Just buy the new laptop now ... you won't get an upgrade from Apple on the OS unless you bought in moments before 10.5 was released (almost literally) and your insurance company won't want to wait the 2 or 3 months (likely 3) that it will take until you can buy an Apple laptop with 10.5 installed.
(someone correct me on that if I'm wrong)
And I don't think Apple gives away anything for free, ever.
Just buy the new laptop now ... you won't get an upgrade from Apple on the OS unless you bought in moments before 10.5 was released (almost literally) and your insurance company won't want to wait the 2 or 3 months (likely 3) that it will take until you can buy an Apple laptop with 10.5 installed.
If I was a rich man I'd be willing to bet you $1000 we'll see a Leopard release before May. It certainly wont be June, despite all the bugs that weren't left there on purpose.
As for you pwnstar if your insurance company would be willing to wait until the end of next month, then I'd wait. Sure there's never any guarantees, but you ask a question - you get an answer.
10.4 came out in April 05 I believe... so nearly 24 months.
(someone correct me on that if I'm wrong)
And I don't think Apple gives away anything for free, ever.
OK I will.
iTunes
Quicktime
Podcasts
Software Updates
iLife in every new Mac
OmniOutliner in new Macs
Big Bang Board Games in New Macs
Comic Life in New Macs
Sebastian
If you get your MacBook today, you definitely will have to spend about $129 for the regular 10.5-DVD.
If there is any possibility for you to wait, lets say 4-6 weeks, do it! I would bet all my saved money (if I had any) on a release in April or May. Probably all Macs ordered after the announcement (about 4 weeks prior to shipping) will have Tiger installed and have Leopard as a voucher.
If you get your MacBook today, you definitely will have to spend about $129 for the regular 10.5-DVD.
Do Apple do that? The voucher thing? Seems a bit too Vista.
I thought the only way to get Leopard for free with your machine would be to order a machine the day it ships.
Any events comming up that Apple might introduce 10.5, NAB ?
Sebastian
Do Apple do that? The voucher thing? Seems a bit too Vista.
I thought the only way to get Leopard for free with your machine would be to order a machine the day it ships.
Yup, that's exactly what they do. In the period of time between shipping date announcement and shipping (usually about 4 weeks) if you buy a mac with 10.4 it will have a coupon for 10.5 which, again using the past as an indicator, will cost $20 "shipping and handling"
I'm getting the new black Macbook to replace a 3 years old Dell 700m for 130$, thats not a bad deal after all !!
Ok, i'll just get it now with 10.4
I'm getting the new black Macbook to replace a 3 years old Dell 700m for 130$, thats not a bad deal after all !!
Good choice. You'll be happy with it!
OK I will.
iTunes subsidised by iPod sales
Quicktime 30 bucks
Podcasts Apple doesn't make podcasts
Software Updates well shit i'd hope so
iLife in every new Mac You pay for that in the price of the computer.
OmniOutliner in new Macs same as above
Big Bang Board Games in New Macs see above
Comic Life in New Macs see above again
Sebastian
Michael
OK I will.
iTunes subsidised by iPod sales
Quicktime 30 bucks
Podcasts Apple doesn't make podcasts
Software Updates well shit i'd hope so
iLife in every new Mac You pay for that in the price of the computer.
OmniOutliner in new Macs same as above
Big Bang Board Games in New Macs see above
Comic Life in New Macs see above again
Sebastian
Michael
iTunes is subsidized by iPod sales? Is Mail.app not free because it's subsidized by OS X sales? Besides, doesn't iTunes predate the iPod? Was it free then? Or was it subsidized by another piece of hardware? I don't think this argument holds any water.
Quicktime Pro is a paid upgrade, but the basic player is free.
Podcasts are a silly thing to put on a list of free software, but you're right. Apple only aggregates a list of them. They don't even host the files, AFAIK.
Software Updates are another strange thing to put on the list. Sure, they're free, but they're not complete software packages. I don't think Apple has ever pushed a new application via Software Update.
As for the last 4... I'm inclined to agree with you. The cost of those software packages are built in to the cost of the computer in the same way that "buy one, get one free" sales are really just "50% off with the purchase of 2" sales. The licenses are an expense for Apple, but I don't think either of us really knows if they raise the price of the hardware to cover it. God knows their profit margins are high enough to eat the cost of a few (relatively) cheap software packages.
Who says Apple should give stuff away for free anyway?
iTunes is subsidized by iPod sales? Is Mail.app not free because it's subsidized by OS X sales?
Woosh, straight over my head with that one.
Besides, doesn't iTunes predate the iPod? Was it free then? Or was it subsidized by another piece of hardware? I don't think this argument holds any water.
The only reasons iTunes is free is because Apple wanted widespread use and people wouldn't have paid for it. It's a worldwide success because it's both brilliant software and its free.
Quicktime Pro is a paid upgrade, but the basic player is free.
The fact that they change for Quicktime Pro always has always annoyed me. They basically make you pay to unlock the useful features in it, namely the ability to save videos from the web and fullscreen mode. If they had any sense here they would make that free. Most Mac users don't convert video formats using Quicktime anyway.
Who says Apple should give stuff away for free anyway?
Why do people continue to say things like this. Apple is worth a lot of money, people will buy more Mac's, people will buy new versions of OS X and will continue to support Apple if they are treated with respect. .Mac is a living joke of a rip off, and charging for Quicktime Pro just annoys people.
Michael
Haha, it doesn't matter how or why they are free.
OK maybe you have a point on the last 4, but I have to disagree with you on iTunes.
My first iPod is a 2nd Gen Shuffle I just bought. I had and was using iTunes long before that.
Quicktime Pro is $30, and if you want to add the MPEG-2 component... well there you go.
Apple doesn't offer them themselves, but they do list them in the iTunes store for free allowing people to download them all from one place.
And Software Updates is still free software, regardless. Even if it is just an update to software you already have.
Call it a Tie. 8)
Sebastian