10.5 will bring a new UI and Finder, and Apple has held back iWork and iLife so as not to give away the new 'look' of OS X.
Because Leopard is in the wings, Apple has had to do more testing on new hardware.
The release dates of hardware were pushed back because of the software.
There's no big secret. We get a new spreadsheet, new Finder and quad core/octo core optimizations.
That's all folks.
Interesting point, but I don't think Apple wouldn't hold up the release of hardware for Leopard testing unless the new features in Leopard required some kind of change in the hardware. It doesn't make much sense to change the new hardware to match the OS when there are tons of previously shipped Macs that are going to need to run Mac OS X 10.5 on day one. In other words, you change the OS to match the hardware, not vice versa, unless the special features of the OS require some kind of change in the hardware.
I vaguely recall that you once had a mild infatuation with the idea of an Apple Newton replacement. You seem to have also had some inside knowledge, if declining memory serves, of said replacement being pulled at the last, the very last, minute.
The UI will still look relatively the same but what it will do is where the excitement comes from. Windows will be animated (Core Animation) in a way that we simply do not see coming. Think about thinks like choosing a particular application and not having that app just pop up but rather slide into place as the other open windows gracefully aquiesce.
This would not require explicit 3rd party developer support IMO. Why do I believe this? Because Leopard finally has the tools to make this feasible.
1. Excellent scaling.
2. Resolution Independence
3. Mulithreaded OpenGL 2.1 where the UI always has a thread going.
This allows Apple to really glitz up the UI without hammering Quartz and slowing your computer down. Expect to see stuff sliding around with grace like they do on the Dock. Expect to see the UI spin on the Z axis for new looks.
Oh, god, I hope not. That sounds like useless eye candy, not adding any function at all to the UI. I sure hope Apple hasn't wasted untold programmer-hours on such froufrou.
Listen, what do I know? I have ZERO solid information, but I have a gut feeling. My hunch is that Leopard will bring a new look, something very different than the current appearance. This is the secret feature Steve mentioned and Apple's big secret. Recently rumors of a new iMac design have surfaced and this only seemed to fuel my other speculation. That is that when Leopard arrives it will be accompanied by a new Mac with a dramatically new appearance. Basically my gut feeling tells me that the new iMac/Leopard combo will arrive together and be a bold statement from Apple, it will look nothing like the current iMac/Tiger combination. I cannot see Apple allowing MS to give Windows a dramatic makeover and then bring another version of OS X out that looks just like the versions before it.
Apple executed the switch to Intel processors almost flawlessly, so we've all begun to think that miracles will happen every few months; but I'm wondering if all the efforts of the past two years might have been a little exhausting for the company. Keeping the brilliant iPod phenomenon alive must have also been taxing. And when you add all the work required to put out the iPhone...
Perhaps the company simply needs a little time, to gather their strengths; before they 'Think Different' about something else.
I'm sure that new hardware and software in 2007 will be exciting evolutionary upgrades from what Apple currently sells; but I'm not quite sure that we'll be seeing a fundamental revolution in the way we use our computers.
Not necessarily so. They could introduce Finder Classic and Finder X. The first will work like the Finder we know, and Finder X is the new revamped Finder. Applications not ready for Finder X will use the 'old' Finder's features.
In my opinion, I don't think the inventors of that device'd change the name of the company that's thier raison d'etre based only on 3 devices -- iPod/iPhone/AppleTV.
What's in store, then?
A home VR deck ?
As "drnat" mentions a real Apple TV ? [Which is what I'd like ta see]
Apple will release a refreshed iMac a scaled down Woodcrest finally bringing quad core to their most popular desktop offering.
The sizes will be 20, 24, and 30" widescreen LCD respectively. However, the screen will not be "flat' rather they will curl inward from the edges to maximize depth of field so that even a 30" LCD feels like a 54" Plasma HDTV.
All machines will ship with 2 gigs of DDR3 RAM with two open slots offering up to 8 megs of usable RAM in the iMac platform.
Keyboard and mice will be abandoned so that Apple can finally release iOcto, a superintelligent albino octopus genetically engineered to breathe oxygen while sitting atop your head and translating your thoughts into specific octopus gestures that will be read and intepreted by the embedded iSight camera that now includes "x-ray specs mode" so that you can see yourself naked without having to actually take off clothes.
Apple will refresh their Power Mac line by removing all the processors and replacing them with a Mariachi band consisting of idiot savants who are specialists at mathematics.
The Mac Mini will be made larger to incorporate a more robust motherboard, heat sink, and scaled up Merom processor. The mini will also be outfitted with wheels, eye stalks, and pinchers much like a crab, so that it can be ordered to clean up the room where it performs its duties. Though some will complain that it still uses integrated graphics.
The refreshed Macbook will sport no screen at all but two full sized keyboards.
The refereshed Macbook pro will sport three screens, one in the traditional place, one on the back of the lid, and one where the keyboard used to be.
Apple will also release the iHat, a baseball cap decorated with Intel GMA950 graphic accelerator chips. The iHat includes an MP3 player, XM/Serius Satellite receiver, 52" Projection DLP TV, an entire DVD collection of Pixar films on a keychain mounted drive that hangs from the bill, and a 2.5 G cell phone. The iHat will only be sold through Cingular Wireless stores.
Steve Jobs will also announce that they have developed a solar powered car made entirely of American Cheese.
I can't believe that apple is gonna do all that but they're still not gonna make a mid range tower! .....
A different UI with only a few weeks (months, at most) of testing before release? I don't think so!
just listen to the word:
Finder ...
compare to:
Spotlight, iTunes, TimeMachine ..
on one side, we have/had the Human Interface Guidelines...
on the other side, we see wooden bars .. (Garageband...)
What I do question is: do we need a 'Find-er' anyhow...?
Isn't the metaphor of beige, cardboxed 'files' over and done?
As I mentioned above: I do have projects, versions, histories, tagcrows ...
a static, 'Stalinistic' order ... is old fashioned.
it is not me, who likes to find things ... the machine should offer me my projects ...
and the above mentioned apps give a glimp, what's possible right now: 'intelligent' playlists, 'live' search and found, a timeline based file management...
I don't know any "big secrets" but I do know this: Adobe has told Macworld that they will be releasing upgrades to the CS 3 as soon after Leopard ships as possible.
That says to me that there are some significant architectural or functional changes in Leopard that Adobe wants to A.) take advantage of; or B.) needs to implement for functionality.
But I guess it could turn out to be nothing more than a cute UI too. \
on one side, we have/had the Human Interface Guidelines...
on the other side, we see wooden bars .. (Garageband...)
What I do question is: do we need a 'Find-er' anyhow...?
Isn't the metaphor of beige, cardboxed 'files' over and done?
As I mentioned above: I do have projects, versions, histories, tagcrows ...
a static, 'Stalinistic' order ... is old fashioned.
it is not me, who likes to find things ... the machine should offer me my projects ...
and the above mentioned apps give a glimp, what's possible right now: 'intelligent' playlists, 'live' search and found, a timeline based file management...
who needs a Finder?
So you expect me to Travel through time every time I mount a volume, or 'live' search everytime I put in a Query?
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I think a competitively priced computer would be even better. But the albino octopus is probably more realistic
And I'd like a new Ferrari for under $13,000.00 but I'm realistic.
And there's got to be some new hardware to go with it.
Because Leopard is in the wings, Apple has had to do more testing on new hardware.
The release dates of hardware were pushed back because of the software.
There's no big secret. We get a new spreadsheet, new Finder and quad core/octo core optimizations.
That's all folks.
10.5 will bring a new UI and Finder, and Apple has held back iWork and iLife so as not to give away the new 'look' of OS X.
Because Leopard is in the wings, Apple has had to do more testing on new hardware.
The release dates of hardware were pushed back because of the software.
There's no big secret. We get a new spreadsheet, new Finder and quad core/octo core optimizations.
That's all folks.
Interesting point, but I don't think Apple wouldn't hold up the release of hardware for Leopard testing unless the new features in Leopard required some kind of change in the hardware. It doesn't make much sense to change the new hardware to match the OS when there are tons of previously shipped Macs that are going to need to run Mac OS X 10.5 on day one. In other words, you change the OS to match the hardware, not vice versa, unless the special features of the OS require some kind of change in the hardware.
I vaguely recall that you once had a mild infatuation with the idea of an Apple Newton replacement. You seem to have also had some inside knowledge, if declining memory serves, of said replacement being pulled at the last, the very last, minute.
Anything... going on?
V/R,
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I think we see a newly revamped Finder.
The UI will still look relatively the same but what it will do is where the excitement comes from. Windows will be animated (Core Animation) in a way that we simply do not see coming. Think about thinks like choosing a particular application and not having that app just pop up but rather slide into place as the other open windows gracefully aquiesce.
This would not require explicit 3rd party developer support IMO. Why do I believe this? Because Leopard finally has the tools to make this feasible.
1. Excellent scaling.
2. Resolution Independence
3. Mulithreaded OpenGL 2.1 where the UI always has a thread going.
This allows Apple to really glitz up the UI without hammering Quartz and slowing your computer down. Expect to see stuff sliding around with grace like they do on the Dock. Expect to see the UI spin on the Z axis for new looks.
Oh, god, I hope not. That sounds like useless eye candy, not adding any function at all to the UI. I sure hope Apple hasn't wasted untold programmer-hours on such froufrou.
Steve Jobs will also announce that they have developed a solar powered car made entirely of American Cheese.
64 slices of american cheese, to be precise...
http://es.appleweblog.com/wp-content...6/08/homer.jpg
Like I said at the beginning, what do I know?
Apple executed the switch to Intel processors almost flawlessly, so we've all begun to think that miracles will happen every few months; but I'm wondering if all the efforts of the past two years might have been a little exhausting for the company. Keeping the brilliant iPod phenomenon alive must have also been taxing. And when you add all the work required to put out the iPhone...
Perhaps the company simply needs a little time, to gather their strengths; before they 'Think Different' about something else.
I'm sure that new hardware and software in 2007 will be exciting evolutionary upgrades from what Apple currently sells; but I'm not quite sure that we'll be seeing a fundamental revolution in the way we use our computers.
OS X 10.5 - new look & some new features (not earth shattering but good)
New iLife & iWork - look & feel of new OS - core annimation may make a big differnece here. iWeb2, spread sheet
A redesign of 1 of the Mac lines - ? iMac
Incremental upgrades to hardware - faster processors etc - no revolution
iPhone as stated
true viPod
? new iPod Hi-Fi type things
iTunes - expansion of movies & moving to UK & other areas - ? higher resolution downloads
All great stuff, not much new revolution
Next year apple will build on aTV and the intergration of the living room experience
JMHO though!
In my opinion, I don't think the inventors of that device'd change the name of the company that's thier raison d'etre based only on 3 devices -- iPod/iPhone/AppleTV.
What's in store, then?
A home VR deck ?
As "drnat" mentions a real Apple TV ? [Which is what I'd like ta see]
A true "Macintosh-In-Your-Pocket" ?
The mind boggles ....
Apple will release a refreshed iMac a scaled down Woodcrest finally bringing quad core to their most popular desktop offering.
The sizes will be 20, 24, and 30" widescreen LCD respectively. However, the screen will not be "flat' rather they will curl inward from the edges to maximize depth of field so that even a 30" LCD feels like a 54" Plasma HDTV.
All machines will ship with 2 gigs of DDR3 RAM with two open slots offering up to 8 megs of usable RAM in the iMac platform.
Keyboard and mice will be abandoned so that Apple can finally release iOcto, a superintelligent albino octopus genetically engineered to breathe oxygen while sitting atop your head and translating your thoughts into specific octopus gestures that will be read and intepreted by the embedded iSight camera that now includes "x-ray specs mode" so that you can see yourself naked without having to actually take off clothes.
Apple will refresh their Power Mac line by removing all the processors and replacing them with a Mariachi band consisting of idiot savants who are specialists at mathematics.
The Mac Mini will be made larger to incorporate a more robust motherboard, heat sink, and scaled up Merom processor. The mini will also be outfitted with wheels, eye stalks, and pinchers much like a crab, so that it can be ordered to clean up the room where it performs its duties. Though some will complain that it still uses integrated graphics.
The refreshed Macbook will sport no screen at all but two full sized keyboards.
The refereshed Macbook pro will sport three screens, one in the traditional place, one on the back of the lid, and one where the keyboard used to be.
Apple will also release the iHat, a baseball cap decorated with Intel GMA950 graphic accelerator chips. The iHat includes an MP3 player, XM/Serius Satellite receiver, 52" Projection DLP TV, an entire DVD collection of Pixar films on a keychain mounted drive that hangs from the bill, and a 2.5 G cell phone. The iHat will only be sold through Cingular Wireless stores.
Steve Jobs will also announce that they have developed a solar powered car made entirely of American Cheese.
I can't believe that apple is gonna do all that but they're still not gonna make a mid range tower!
A different UI with only a few weeks (months, at most) of testing before release? I don't think so!
just listen to the word:
Finder ...
compare to:
Spotlight, iTunes, TimeMachine ..
on one side, we have/had the Human Interface Guidelines...
on the other side, we see wooden bars .. (Garageband...)
What I do question is: do we need a 'Find-er' anyhow...?
Isn't the metaphor of beige, cardboxed 'files' over and done?
As I mentioned above: I do have projects, versions, histories, tagcrows ...
a static, 'Stalinistic' order ... is old fashioned.
it is not me, who likes to find things ... the machine should offer me my projects ...
and the above mentioned apps give a glimp, what's possible right now: 'intelligent' playlists, 'live' search and found, a timeline based file management...
who needs a Finder?
That says to me that there are some significant architectural or functional changes in Leopard that Adobe wants to A.) take advantage of; or B.) needs to implement for functionality.
But I guess it could turn out to be nothing more than a cute UI too.
Listen, what do I know? I have ZERO solid information, but I have a gut feeling.
Stopped reading. Not really the best way to "open" a post.
just listen to the word:
Finder ...
compare to:
Spotlight, iTunes, TimeMachine ..
on one side, we have/had the Human Interface Guidelines...
on the other side, we see wooden bars .. (Garageband...)
What I do question is: do we need a 'Find-er' anyhow...?
Isn't the metaphor of beige, cardboxed 'files' over and done?
As I mentioned above: I do have projects, versions, histories, tagcrows ...
a static, 'Stalinistic' order ... is old fashioned.
it is not me, who likes to find things ... the machine should offer me my projects ...
and the above mentioned apps give a glimp, what's possible right now: 'intelligent' playlists, 'live' search and found, a timeline based file management...
who needs a Finder?
So you expect me to Travel through time every time I mount a volume, or 'live' search everytime I put in a Query?
The Finder isn't dead yet. Just outdated.
Sebastian