I bought a PS3 as soon as they hit the shelves the 2nd time. My interest in the video gaming part was limited, but I did want a blu-ray player, and figured that I could replace my PS2, in one nice package (as well as remove the need for the ethernet cable to the PS2) with the 60gb PS3. I've got a couple dozen PS2 games, probably 2 PSX games, and now 4 PS3 games. I've been very happy with it so far, but I am really looking forward to the next version of a couple EA sports games, and GTA.
I don't keep up with all this info the way you guys seem to. I don't have any regrets, but I'd probably would have at least looked into the whole DRM thing. Not really sure what that means for me, but I don't like the sound of it.
Anyway, I wanted to point out two things. First, that I purchased the PS3 with the intent on using it primarily as a blu-ray movie player (I haven't purchased a DVD in over a year in anticipation. I have 8 blu-ray movies so far). Second, not that I'd have any interest in the XBox 360 at any price (assuming I couldn't sell it for a profit, obviously), but I disagree that the XBox is a greater value, despite my lack of interest. The PS3 has a larger HD (which I don't care a whole lot about), and the built in wifi (which I do), but it's also plays HD movies. XBox doesn't. When it does, and please correct me if I am wrong but, doesn't it cost nearly the same? XBox $399 + HD DVD player $199 = $598. PS3 = $599.
It seemed to me that XBox360 was clearly not comparable to PS3, and I've told a bunch of people that it looked like this version of the XBox 360 wasn't a long term plan for Microsoft. That XBox 360 was a product to take advantage of it's year head start over PS3, and to be sold vs PS2. I thought it looked like the next v of Microsoft gaming console would have to come out fairly soon, and apparently it is. XBox Black, is it? I assume that will likely be the best product on the market (especially if it supports blu-ray) when it does come out, but, again, for what I wanted, the PS3 will continue to suit me fine. I assume the PS4 would likely be preferable to me, too.
Excuse the rambling, but my point is, while agree that it costs more to buy a PS3, I believe you get a lot more for your money then when you purchase an XBox 360.
Your showing a graph that has an upswing over a two day period. Needless to say if you look at the actual sales, and not the 2 day graph you chose, it is still kicking the crap out of HD.
Like I said.
3 weeks of little to no HD DVD new movie releases coupled with a %50 Amazon sales that was highly successful. Your definition of crap kicking is different than mine. I'm looking and seeing a format (HD DVD) that doesn't have 7 out of 8 studios and doesn't have 2 million PS3 in homes competing VERY well with Blu-ray.
What the Amazon charts show is that good content sells and that there are more HD DVD owners who are simply for that next desirable title. 2 weeks ago BD fans were all but carving out HD DVDs epitaph. Again...this war cannot be won. It will end in a stalemate just like the DVD recording disc wars and DVD Audio vs SACD.
So basically the stats we're providing are just snapshots in time.
seriously dude... you want me to cosy up to microsoft instead.. those paragons of virtue....
What did M$ do for the HD-DVD market? I understand about their Vista from Hell and thier ruthless business ethics, but M$ has not been active in the HD-DVD market as Sony have for BD. Fews things M$ is involved in the format war is VC-1 codec which is used both in HD & BD, HDi which is currently working with IME while BD went with BD-J, and finally the HD-DVD add on for Xbox360 which toshiba is manufacturing....
If M$ did something in the HiDef format war that I'm not aware, please do tell.
Ahhh see you've fallen for the marketing. Note that your link says "break 100k copies sold". The question is who exactly where these copies sold to?
From the article.
Quote:
Sony Pictures Home Entertainment (SPHE) announced today that "Casino Royale" became the first of any HD-DVD or Blu-ray title to debut in the top 10 on Amazon.com's DVD top sellers list, and the first High-Definition title to hit the 100,000 units shipped mark.
Notice that they did not state "sold" in the article but rather shipped. This is a little PR slight of hand. Sony is making it sound like 100k eager consumers snapped up Casino Royal the reality is they are stating that 100k copies "shipped" to retailers and likely a fair amount of those have been sold to consumers. My guess is they've probably sold a little over half of that shipment to end users.
Ahhh see you've fallen for the marketing. Note that your link says "break 100k copies sold". The question is who exactly where these copies sold to?
From the article.
Notice that they did not state "sold" in the article but rather shipped. This is a little PR slight of hand. Sony is making it sound like 100k eager consumers snapped up Casino Royal the reality is they are stating that 100k copies "shipped" to retailers and likely a fair amount of those have been sold to consumers. My guess is they've probably sold a little over half of that shipment to end users.
Yes, but I'll take Sony's PR department over your guess. Feel free to provide proof to the contrary and we'll be in business.
And I'd say that being the first HD title to break the top 10 in Amazon's DVD section says something, too. But I'm sure you have some way to spin that otherwise.
Yes, but I'll take Sony's PR department over your guess. Feel free to provide proof to the contrary and we'll be in business.
And I'd say that being the first HD title to break the top 10 in Amazon's DVD section says something, too. But I'm sure you have some way to spin that otherwise.
There's nothing to be contrary about. 100k copies of Casino Royale were shipped to retailers. That is an achievement. I don't know how many copies were sold to consumers but if that data becomes available I'll update this thread.
MARCH 23 | Blu-ray Disc players released after Oct. 31 will feature markedly improved functionality over models currently available for sale.
The Blu-ray Disc Assn. has mandated that all hardware streeting after that date must be able to play back picture-in-picture video, as driven by BD Java interactive technology. Many players on shelves now can handle BD Java, but to varying degrees. Few Blu-ray players include picture-in-picture capability, for instance, not even the PlayStation 3.
Sony?s current and summer 2007 stand-alone models and available Pioneer and Philips units are among those lacking the picture-in-picture feature.
With two different pools of players at retail in the near future, studios will have to navigate how to best create titles that play universally. A title with a highly touted picture-in-picture feature, for example, might not play properly on all players.
?For studios, it?s always a good idea at this stage to test? titles on all available players, said Andy Parsons, senior VP of advanced product development at Pioneer Electronics. Pioneer has upgraded its own BD Java playback with a firmware update, as posted on its site earlier this week. Prior to the upgrade, Pioneer owners could not see Lionsgate?s intended flashlight graphic within the menu portion of its Blu-ray version of The Descent.
Yet Parsons doubts that firmware alone would facilitate picture-in-picture, a relatively complicated part of the BD Java specification.
?There was a grace period between the launch of the first generation Blu-ray launch and October,? said Parsons. ?After October, [manufacturers] must conform to the full range of specifications.?
Additionally, after Oct. 31, all Blu-ray players must hold a minimum 256MB of persistent memory storage, which will help power the picture-in-picture feature. Also, any Blu-ray player that features an Internet connection is required to have 1GB of such memory, in order to hold whatever content users decide to download from the Web.
To this point, studios have not released a true picture-in-picture Blu-ray product, according to manufacturing and studio sources. Lionsgate worked around the issue for The Descent, by creatively placing two versions of the film on a large capacity Blu-ray 50GB disc to give the appearance of picture-in-picture technology.
Numerous HD DVD titles boast picture-in-picture, as that format required all of its players to support this feature at launch.
Manufacturers are confident new player requirements are not cause for consumer alarm. All players, regardless of BD Java and memory functionality, are designed to successfully run a Blu-ray film.
?As is common in new format introductions, future products will include some additional features such as picture-in-picture,? said Marty Gordon, Philips VP. ?Regardless of whether first-generation hardware supports these new features, the discs will still play.? Disc designers are struggling to determine how to craft titles that will play the same on current and future Blu-ray models.
?I just finished graphics with my first BD Java title,? said DVD producer Van Ling, who declined to name the release. ?What I?m finding is that there is a lot of optimism that it will work, but it?s not a certainty. We are now out of the realm of normal video format stuff, and we?re into computer programming.?
Ling worries about ongoing differences among Blu-ray players, because it?s likely some manufacturers will adhere to minimum standards and others will go above and beyond for competitive reasons.
?The whole problem comes in when some manufacturers toe the minimum line and some others might make twice the minimum [functionality] on players,? said Ling. ?In my view, I shouldn?t have to know what every single player can do. Rather than downgrade my creative vision for the lowest common denominator player, I want to create something [that fully realizes Blu-ray abilities].?
My emphasis added. Like I said. If you have a non PS3 player your BD is going to be obsolete. EVERY feature touted in this new Oct 2007 specification has been available from HD DVD from the 1st player to the last.
This thread makes a great read, especially after finishing the comics in the morning paper.
Although I prefer Blu-ray for its greater computer use potential, I just want this format war to end. Please someone, drive a stake through the heart of one of the formats, I don't care which.
HD format manufactures and studios are delusional if they think they can replicate the success of the transition from VHS to DVD and face a very real risk of making their product a niche one, much as laserdiscs were. When DVD came out the image quality was so much superior than VHS that VHS clearly wasn't "good-enough" as a format. HD formats don't have that luxury, many consumers feel that SD-DVD gives then a picture "good-enough" and see little reason for moving to HD, especially given the format war. In TV the step up from SDTV to HDTV is mind-blowing, moving from SD-DVD to HD DVD, in many consumers' eyes, is only a marginal increase in viewing quality and not worth buying into.
There's nothing to be contrary about. 100k copies of Casino Royale were shipped to retailers. That is an achievement. I don't know how many copies were sold to consumers but if that data becomes available I'll update this thread.
The available data is that it's the first High Definition Disk to reach amazons top 10 in the DVD section.
This thread makes a great read, especially after finishing the comics in the morning paper.
agreed!
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Originally Posted by OldCodger73
Although I prefer Blu-ray for its greater computer use potential, I just want this format war to end. Please someone, drive a stake through the heart of one of the formats, I don't care which.
BD isnt going anywhere quick, Sony at least are commited to it for the next ten years in thaty its the disc format for PS3 GAMES.
neither format is going to "die" quickly unfortunately, unless ONE studio decides to go BD... or 2-3 studios decide to go HD-DVD.. but BD has 2 reasons to hang around ..movies and PS3 games
My emphasis added. Like I said. If you have a non PS3 player your BD is going to be obsolete. EVERY feature touted in this new Oct 2007 specification has been available from HD DVD from the 1st player to the last.
Actually, that's not entirely true. Sony has not come out to answer the BD-J 1.1 support for PS3, yet. I'm speculating that PS3 may tactically not be BDJ-1.1 enabled in the future even when it's capable. One of the reason behind it is to promote BD standalone hardware sales other than promoting PS3 as a BD player. It's done enough damage to all the BD player manufactures to this point. It would be nice feature to enable, but just like PS3 not enabling or it's inability to upscale video output, Sony may choose not to provide full BD player functionality on PS3. However, we'll have to see what Sony is to do with PS3 and the BD-J 1.1 in Nov.2007.
Adobe announced Premiere Pro CS3 today. It will author Blu-ray but not HD DVD. Some people may not like it, but Premiere is still one of the biggest players in video editing out there.
Adobe announced Premiere Pro CS3 today. It will author Blu-ray but not HD DVD. Some people may not like it, but Premiere is still one of the biggest players in video editing out there.
I saw this and wondered why. Apple's DVD Studio can output HD-DVD and they aren't even officially in the HD-DVD camp.
I think this is just Adobe being lazy again. Apple will announce that they can do both formats with Final Cut Studio 6.0, and continue to eat Adobe's lunch.
I saw this and wondered why. Apple's DVD Studio can output HD-DVD and they aren't even officially in the HD-DVD camp.
I think this is just Adobe being lazy again. Apple will announce that they can do both formats with Final Cut Studio 6.0, and continue to eat Adobe's lunch.
Yeah I thought the same thing Frank777. A software provider needs to be platform agnostic when it comes to authoring tools if there is money to be made.
Why is it that a simple program from Corel supports both formats but Adobe only supports one?
In a reduced capacity. No BD Live support and limited BD-Java. As opposed to the 1st generation HD DVD player which will support all new titles. You guys want people to pay MORE money and get less because of studio support that can and will change? nyet.
Again, will future movies play? BD-Live and BD-J are not required for watching the movie.
I can't run Parallels on my PPC Mac, but my Mac is not obsolete. The first DVD players couldn't handle DTS, but movies play fine, and the players aren't obsolete because of that.
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Originally Posted by hmurchison
So you expect TotalHD to cost the same as a HD DVD or BD? Even when Warner is selling Combos today at a higher price?
You're reaching.
Warner said the "material" costs of TotalHD are trivial. The extra cost will really come from licensing.
So there will be an extra cost.
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Originally Posted by hmurchison
Toshiba's AoD was ready before Blu-ray.
I'm not saying it wasn't, and it wasn't my point. Toshiba had to finish first to get a chance.
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Originally Posted by hmurchison
For any that disagree tell my why june 2007 announces a new 1.1 Profile and October 2007 mandates that players support persistent storage and full Java support along with secondary video decoders? How is what I've just said not manifesting exactly with what Sony's doing now?
Are the three letters B, D and A so hard to write (and no, BDA isn't just Sony and Panasonic either). You do know that Sony's first BD player isn't even a Sony player, don't you?
Look at the trend...HD DVD has closed the gap and April begins to bring some decent movies.
You're lucky he didn't post the DVD Empire numbers instead which are numbers based on sales and not ranks.
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Originally Posted by hmurchison
Onlooker I don't know if you know about Japanese culture but they support their own products. You couldn't even run a Japanese business without having some sort of Citizen as your proxy. The Japanese are enculturated to use their own technology. So pointing out that Blu-ray or Nintendo are doing well in Japan is amusing as anyone who understand even a modicum of Japanese culture knows why.
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I don't keep up with all this info the way you guys seem to. I don't have any regrets, but I'd probably would have at least looked into the whole DRM thing. Not really sure what that means for me, but I don't like the sound of it.
Anyway, I wanted to point out two things. First, that I purchased the PS3 with the intent on using it primarily as a blu-ray movie player (I haven't purchased a DVD in over a year in anticipation. I have 8 blu-ray movies so far). Second, not that I'd have any interest in the XBox 360 at any price (assuming I couldn't sell it for a profit, obviously), but I disagree that the XBox is a greater value, despite my lack of interest. The PS3 has a larger HD (which I don't care a whole lot about), and the built in wifi (which I do), but it's also plays HD movies. XBox doesn't. When it does, and please correct me if I am wrong but, doesn't it cost nearly the same? XBox $399 + HD DVD player $199 = $598. PS3 = $599.
It seemed to me that XBox360 was clearly not comparable to PS3, and I've told a bunch of people that it looked like this version of the XBox 360 wasn't a long term plan for Microsoft. That XBox 360 was a product to take advantage of it's year head start over PS3, and to be sold vs PS2. I thought it looked like the next v of Microsoft gaming console would have to come out fairly soon, and apparently it is. XBox Black, is it? I assume that will likely be the best product on the market (especially if it supports blu-ray) when it does come out, but, again, for what I wanted, the PS3 will continue to suit me fine. I assume the PS4 would likely be preferable to me, too.
Excuse the rambling, but my point is, while agree that it costs more to buy a PS3, I believe you get a lot more for your money then when you purchase an XBox 360.
Of all... Sony's BD/PS3 PR have been nothing but a liar from the get go.
seriously dude... you want me to cosy up to microsoft instead.. those paragons of virtue....
Your showing a graph that has an upswing over a two day period. Needless to say if you look at the actual sales, and not the 2 day graph you chose, it is still kicking the crap out of HD.
Like I said.
3 weeks of little to no HD DVD new movie releases coupled with a %50 Amazon sales that was highly successful. Your definition of crap kicking is different than mine. I'm looking and seeing a format (HD DVD) that doesn't have 7 out of 8 studios and doesn't have 2 million PS3 in homes competing VERY well with Blu-ray.
What the Amazon charts show is that good content sells and that there are more HD DVD owners who are simply for that next desirable title. 2 weeks ago BD fans were all but carving out HD DVDs epitaph. Again...this war cannot be won. It will end in a stalemate just like the DVD recording disc wars and DVD Audio vs SACD.
So basically the stats we're providing are just snapshots in time.
seriously dude... you want me to cosy up to microsoft instead.. those paragons of virtue....
co-sign. I beginning to think that the only reason why MS and Sony aren't working together on Blu-ray is because they're egos are simply too big.
seriously dude... you want me to cosy up to microsoft instead.. those paragons of virtue....
What did M$ do for the HD-DVD market? I understand about their Vista from Hell and thier ruthless business ethics, but M$ has not been active in the HD-DVD market as Sony have for BD. Fews things M$ is involved in the format war is VC-1 codec which is used both in HD & BD, HDi which is currently working with IME while BD went with BD-J, and finally the HD-DVD add on for Xbox360 which toshiba is manufacturing....
If M$ did something in the HiDef format war that I'm not aware, please do tell.
Casino Royale on Blu-Ray becomes the first HD media release to break 100k copies sold.
Here's my little contribution to the party.
Casino Royale on Blu-Ray becomes the first HD media release to break 100k copies sold.
Ahhh see you've fallen for the marketing. Note that your link says "break 100k copies sold". The question is who exactly where these copies sold to?
From the article.
Sony Pictures Home Entertainment (SPHE) announced today that "Casino Royale" became the first of any HD-DVD or Blu-ray title to debut in the top 10 on Amazon.com's DVD top sellers list, and the first High-Definition title to hit the 100,000 units shipped mark.
Notice that they did not state "sold" in the article but rather shipped. This is a little PR slight of hand. Sony is making it sound like 100k eager consumers snapped up Casino Royal the reality is they are stating that 100k copies "shipped" to retailers and likely a fair amount of those have been sold to consumers. My guess is they've probably sold a little over half of that shipment to end users.
Ahhh see you've fallen for the marketing. Note that your link says "break 100k copies sold". The question is who exactly where these copies sold to?
From the article.
Notice that they did not state "sold" in the article but rather shipped. This is a little PR slight of hand. Sony is making it sound like 100k eager consumers snapped up Casino Royal the reality is they are stating that 100k copies "shipped" to retailers and likely a fair amount of those have been sold to consumers. My guess is they've probably sold a little over half of that shipment to end users.
Yes, but I'll take Sony's PR department over your guess. Feel free to provide proof to the contrary and we'll be in business.
And I'd say that being the first HD title to break the top 10 in Amazon's DVD section says something, too. But I'm sure you have some way to spin that otherwise.
Yes, but I'll take Sony's PR department over your guess. Feel free to provide proof to the contrary and we'll be in business.
And I'd say that being the first HD title to break the top 10 in Amazon's DVD section says something, too. But I'm sure you have some way to spin that otherwise.
There's nothing to be contrary about. 100k copies of Casino Royale were shipped to retailers. That is an achievement. I don't know how many copies were sold to consumers but if that data becomes available I'll update this thread.
MARCH 23 | Blu-ray Disc players released after Oct. 31 will feature markedly improved functionality over models currently available for sale.
The Blu-ray Disc Assn. has mandated that all hardware streeting after that date must be able to play back picture-in-picture video, as driven by BD Java interactive technology. Many players on shelves now can handle BD Java, but to varying degrees. Few Blu-ray players include picture-in-picture capability, for instance, not even the PlayStation 3.
Sony?s current and summer 2007 stand-alone models and available Pioneer and Philips units are among those lacking the picture-in-picture feature.
With two different pools of players at retail in the near future, studios will have to navigate how to best create titles that play universally. A title with a highly touted picture-in-picture feature, for example, might not play properly on all players.
?For studios, it?s always a good idea at this stage to test? titles on all available players, said Andy Parsons, senior VP of advanced product development at Pioneer Electronics. Pioneer has upgraded its own BD Java playback with a firmware update, as posted on its site earlier this week. Prior to the upgrade, Pioneer owners could not see Lionsgate?s intended flashlight graphic within the menu portion of its Blu-ray version of The Descent.
Yet Parsons doubts that firmware alone would facilitate picture-in-picture, a relatively complicated part of the BD Java specification.
?There was a grace period between the launch of the first generation Blu-ray launch and October,? said Parsons. ?After October, [manufacturers] must conform to the full range of specifications.?
Additionally, after Oct. 31, all Blu-ray players must hold a minimum 256MB of persistent memory storage, which will help power the picture-in-picture feature. Also, any Blu-ray player that features an Internet connection is required to have 1GB of such memory, in order to hold whatever content users decide to download from the Web.
To this point, studios have not released a true picture-in-picture Blu-ray product, according to manufacturing and studio sources. Lionsgate worked around the issue for The Descent, by creatively placing two versions of the film on a large capacity Blu-ray 50GB disc to give the appearance of picture-in-picture technology.
Numerous HD DVD titles boast picture-in-picture, as that format required all of its players to support this feature at launch.
Manufacturers are confident new player requirements are not cause for consumer alarm. All players, regardless of BD Java and memory functionality, are designed to successfully run a Blu-ray film.
?As is common in new format introductions, future products will include some additional features such as picture-in-picture,? said Marty Gordon, Philips VP. ?Regardless of whether first-generation hardware supports these new features, the discs will still play.? Disc designers are struggling to determine how to craft titles that will play the same on current and future Blu-ray models.
?I just finished graphics with my first BD Java title,? said DVD producer Van Ling, who declined to name the release. ?What I?m finding is that there is a lot of optimism that it will work, but it?s not a certainty. We are now out of the realm of normal video format stuff, and we?re into computer programming.?
Ling worries about ongoing differences among Blu-ray players, because it?s likely some manufacturers will adhere to minimum standards and others will go above and beyond for competitive reasons.
?The whole problem comes in when some manufacturers toe the minimum line and some others might make twice the minimum [functionality] on players,? said Ling. ?In my view, I shouldn?t have to know what every single player can do. Rather than downgrade my creative vision for the lowest common denominator player, I want to create something [that fully realizes Blu-ray abilities].?
My emphasis added. Like I said. If you have a non PS3 player your BD is going to be obsolete. EVERY feature touted in this new Oct 2007 specification has been available from HD DVD from the 1st player to the last.
Although I prefer Blu-ray for its greater computer use potential, I just want this format war to end. Please someone, drive a stake through the heart of one of the formats, I don't care which.
HD format manufactures and studios are delusional if they think they can replicate the success of the transition from VHS to DVD and face a very real risk of making their product a niche one, much as laserdiscs were. When DVD came out the image quality was so much superior than VHS that VHS clearly wasn't "good-enough" as a format. HD formats don't have that luxury, many consumers feel that SD-DVD gives then a picture "good-enough" and see little reason for moving to HD, especially given the format war. In TV the step up from SDTV to HDTV is mind-blowing, moving from SD-DVD to HD DVD, in many consumers' eyes, is only a marginal increase in viewing quality and not worth buying into.
There's nothing to be contrary about. 100k copies of Casino Royale were shipped to retailers. That is an achievement. I don't know how many copies were sold to consumers but if that data becomes available I'll update this thread.
The available data is that it's the first High Definition Disk to reach amazons top 10 in the DVD section.
This thread makes a great read, especially after finishing the comics in the morning paper.
agreed!
Although I prefer Blu-ray for its greater computer use potential, I just want this format war to end. Please someone, drive a stake through the heart of one of the formats, I don't care which.
BD isnt going anywhere quick, Sony at least are commited to it for the next ten years in thaty its the disc format for PS3 GAMES.
neither format is going to "die" quickly unfortunately, unless ONE studio decides to go BD... or 2-3 studios decide to go HD-DVD.. but BD has 2 reasons to hang around ..movies and PS3 games
http://www.videobusiness.com/article...tml?nid=2840&&
My emphasis added. Like I said. If you have a non PS3 player your BD is going to be obsolete. EVERY feature touted in this new Oct 2007 specification has been available from HD DVD from the 1st player to the last.
Actually, that's not entirely true. Sony has not come out to answer the BD-J 1.1 support for PS3, yet. I'm speculating that PS3 may tactically not be BDJ-1.1 enabled in the future even when it's capable. One of the reason behind it is to promote BD standalone hardware sales other than promoting PS3 as a BD player. It's done enough damage to all the BD player manufactures to this point. It would be nice feature to enable, but just like PS3 not enabling or it's inability to upscale video output, Sony may choose not to provide full BD player functionality on PS3. However, we'll have to see what Sony is to do with PS3 and the BD-J 1.1 in Nov.2007.
Linky
Adobe announced Premiere Pro CS3 today. It will author Blu-ray but not HD DVD. Some people may not like it, but Premiere is still one of the biggest players in video editing out there.
I saw this and wondered why. Apple's DVD Studio can output HD-DVD and they aren't even officially in the HD-DVD camp.
I think this is just Adobe being lazy again. Apple will announce that they can do both formats with Final Cut Studio 6.0, and continue to eat Adobe's lunch.
I saw this and wondered why. Apple's DVD Studio can output HD-DVD and they aren't even officially in the HD-DVD camp.
I think this is just Adobe being lazy again. Apple will announce that they can do both formats with Final Cut Studio 6.0, and continue to eat Adobe's lunch.
Yeah I thought the same thing Frank777. A software provider needs to be platform agnostic when it comes to authoring tools if there is money to be made.
Why is it that a simple program from Corel supports both formats but Adobe only supports one?
http://www.emedialive.com/Articles/R...rticleID=12468
That's just leaving money on the table.
In a reduced capacity. No BD Live support and limited BD-Java. As opposed to the 1st generation HD DVD player which will support all new titles. You guys want people to pay MORE money and get less because of studio support that can and will change? nyet.
Again, will future movies play? BD-Live and BD-J are not required for watching the movie.
I can't run Parallels on my PPC Mac, but my Mac is not obsolete. The first DVD players couldn't handle DTS, but movies play fine, and the players aren't obsolete because of that.
So you expect TotalHD to cost the same as a HD DVD or BD? Even when Warner is selling Combos today at a higher price?
You're reaching.
Warner said the "material" costs of TotalHD are trivial. The extra cost will really come from licensing.
So there will be an extra cost.
Toshiba's AoD was ready before Blu-ray.
I'm not saying it wasn't, and it wasn't my point. Toshiba had to finish first to get a chance.
For any that disagree tell my why june 2007 announces a new 1.1 Profile and October 2007 mandates that players support persistent storage and full Java support along with secondary video decoders? How is what I've just said not manifesting exactly with what Sony's doing now?
Are the three letters B, D and A so hard to write (and no, BDA isn't just Sony and Panasonic either). You do know that Sony's first BD player isn't even a Sony player, don't you?
"kicking the crap" is a bit hyperbolic.
Look at the trend...HD DVD has closed the gap and April begins to bring some decent movies.
You're lucky he didn't post the DVD Empire numbers instead which are numbers based on sales and not ranks.
Onlooker I don't know if you know about Japanese culture but they support their own products. You couldn't even run a Japanese business without having some sort of Citizen as your proxy. The Japanese are enculturated to use their own technology. So pointing out that Blu-ray or Nintendo are doing well in Japan is amusing as anyone who understand even a modicum of Japanese culture knows why.
Toshiba is from Japan.