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  • Reply 21 of 46
    jaddiejaddie Posts: 110member
    Dear Friends



    I'd bet the farm on the fact that we're going to see updated Mac Pros on Sunday, April 15.



    Those are the video machines. Apple wants to be the headliner of the National Association of Broadcasters's annual tradeshow and convention.



    And it will be.



    Sincerely,

    Jaddie
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  • Reply 22 of 46
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,444member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jaddie View Post


    Dear Friends



    I'd bet the farm on the fact that we're going to see updated Mac Pros on Sunday, April 15.



    Those are the video machines. Apple wants to be the headliner of the National Association of Broadcasters's annual tradeshow and convention.



    And it will be.



    Sincerely,

    Jaddie





    Jaddie I agree. April 15th is perfect. Adobe's CS3 is shipping on what April 20th. Apple can hit the market hard with new Pro Apps and Adobe CS3 demoed on 8 core processors.



    The other stuff can be announced in May when Crestiline is almost ready.
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  • Reply 23 of 46
    imiloaimiloa Posts: 187member
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    Originally Posted by donebylee View Post


    And there is a growing suspicion that Jobs has decided to shoot his wad all at once at WWDC.



    I agree with the sentiment that there is simply too much to announce at WWDC.



    1) Not enough time, unless Jobs makes a 3-4 hour keynote.



    2) Announcing so much at once will reduce the impact of each individual product release. imo, Such is very un-Jobs. Vis the herculean efforts at secrecy so each innovative release has max impact.



    My guess is that new hardware depends on Leopard for some reason. eg: Multi-touch trackpads on laptops and tower keyboards, thus the bottleneck on 4-core towers and Santa Rosa laptops.
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  • Reply 24 of 46
    donebyleedonebylee Posts: 521member
    I hope all of you who disagree with my WWDC prediction are right. But I have a question for you:
    If no hardware is announced at NAB, what then?
    I would love it if we got new pro A/V apps, new displays and new Mac Pros at NAB. I would be happily purchasing my new system on April 16th (or whenever they were made available).



    But we'll see. April 15th is not that far off. We'll see..................\
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  • Reply 25 of 46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post


    Jaddie I agree. April 15th is perfect. Adobe's CS3 is shipping on what April 20th. Apple can hit the market hard with new Pro Apps and Adobe CS3 demoed on 8 core processors.



    The other stuff can be announced in May when Crestiline is almost ready.



    If the Mac Pro is released on the 15th, then it wouldn't depend on Leopard features because it would still be loaded with Tiger. It's possible that they'll load it with a special version of Tiger just for the new hardware.



    I'm all for a completely new look for the Mac Pro and new screens to match the new look. I'll be rather bummed if it looks the same as current models.
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  • Reply 26 of 46
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by donebylee View Post


    I hope all of you who disagree with my WWDC prediction are right. But I have a question for you:
    If no hardware is announced at NAB, what then?



    Apple hosts special events so they (and we) don't have to wait for Macworld, and WWDC every year. You should know this unless your a PC guy.
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  • Reply 27 of 46
    donebyleedonebylee Posts: 521member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by onlooker View Post


    Apple hosts special events so they (and we) don't have to wait for Macworld, and WWDC every year. You should know this unless your a PC guy.



    All I can say is we'll see.



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  • Reply 28 of 46
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,444member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Brian Green View Post


    If the Mac Pro is released on the 15th, then it wouldn't depend on Leopard features because it would still be loaded with Tiger. It's possible that they'll load it with a special version of Tiger just for the new hardware.



    I'm all for a completely new look for the Mac Pro and new screens to match the new look. I'll be rather bummed if it looks the same as current models.



    I think Apple could get away with showing Final Cut Pro and other apps on a version of Leopard that doesn't reveal the Top Secret features (assuming they don't announce them by April 15th of course). Yet I would expect that Apple has already added implicit support for Mac Pro's and perhaps new Centrino Pro technology in 10.4.9. If they haven't a small patch would be added to enable support.



    Unlike Centrino Pro I do not believe Apple is waiting for a new platform to launch to deliver Mac Pro. If I was ready for a purchase like Dony I'd be a bit antsy as well. I don't think our friend will have too much longer to wait.
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  • Reply 29 of 46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post


    I think Apple could get away with showing Final Cut Pro and other apps on a version of Leopard that doesn't reveal the Top Secret features (assuming they don't announce them by April 15th of course). Yet I would expect that Apple has already added implicit support for Mac Pro's and perhaps new Centrino Pro technology in 10.4.9. If they haven't a small patch would be added to enable support.



    Unlike Centrino Pro I do not believe Apple is waiting for a new platform to launch to deliver Mac Pro. If I was ready for a purchase like Dony I'd be a bit antsy as well. I don't think our friend will have too much longer to wait.



    I'm in the market for a Mac Pro as well. I've been watching all of this with anticipation. I'd rather have something middle of the road (mini tower), but I learned my lesson buying a 2GHz G5 iMac some years ago. I'll never purchase another all-in-one again. So I have to pony up the dough and get a Mac Pro and call it good. I'm hoping we'll see them soon and if I get one without Leopard I won't be too upset with it. I'm of the opinion that I'd rather see Leopard rock than fizzle. Let them take their time to get things right. Here's to hoping that Leopard beats all of our expectations, as do all of the upcoming hardware announcements.
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  • Reply 30 of 46
    bizmacbizmac Posts: 20member
    A complete family to launch!



    April: Mac Pros with Final Cut Pro Suite and Adobe Premiere (demo) during NAB

    May: Mac Mini, iMac, MacBookPro based on the new Santa Rosa platform (released 9 of May)

    June: Leopard!



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  • Reply 31 of 46
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    So the premise of the OP seems to be that there must be some kind of pent-up explosion in the works because Apple has been "dragging their feet".



    Compared to what? The random speculation and desires of posters on enthusiast sites?



    The only way Apple could be considered to be "dragging their feet" would be if they were to lay out a timeline and fail to meet it.



    They've done nothing like that, ergo, there is no "back-log" of innovation that implies they're saving it up for one big push, just the usual "we'll release stuff when it's done" product cycle.
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  • Reply 32 of 46
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bizmac View Post


    A complete family to launch!



    April: Mac Pros with Final Cut Pro Suite and Adobe Premiere (demo) during NAB

    May: Mac Mini, iMac, MacBookPro based on the new Santa Rosa platform (released 9 of May)

    June: Leopard!







    That's the most reasonable expectation/speculation I've seen in here in weeks.
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  • Reply 33 of 46
    donebyleedonebylee Posts: 521member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    So the premise of the OP seems to be that there must be some kind of pent-up explosion in the works because Apple has been "dragging their feet".



    Compared to what? The random speculation and desires of posters on enthusiast sites?



    The only way Apple could be considered to be "dragging their feet" would be if they were to lay out a timeline and fail to meet it.



    They've done nothing like that, ergo, there is no "back-log" of innovation that implies they're saving it up for one big push, just the usual "we'll release stuff when it's done" product cycle.



    No.



    My OP was just to make fun of all this.
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  • Reply 34 of 46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by imiloa View Post


    I agree with the sentiment that there is simply too much to announce at WWDC.



    1) Not enough time, unless Jobs makes a 3-4 hour keynote.



    2) Announcing so much at once will reduce the impact of each individual product release. imo, Such is very un-Jobs. Vis the herculean efforts at secrecy so each innovative release has max impact.



    My guess is that new hardware depends on Leopard for some reason. eg: Multi-touch trackpads on laptops and tower keyboards, thus the bottleneck on 4-core towers and Santa Rosa laptops.



    It may not be Leopard it more likely they are waiting for the next chip set to come out and intel is making them wait. As for not coming out with a mid-range head less desktop they may drop the price of the low-end dual dual-core mac pro down quite a lot maybe on the old chip set when the quad-cores come out running on the new chip set.
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  • Reply 35 of 46
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    I think it's more likely they are waiting for NAB and photoshop.
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  • Reply 36 of 46
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,444member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bizmac View Post


    A complete family to launch!



    April: Mac Pros with Final Cut Pro Suite and Adobe Premiere (demo) during NAB

    May: Mac Mini, iMac, MacBookPro based on the new Santa Rosa platform (released 9 of May)

    June: Leopard!







    Ding! We have a winner. I didn't know Centrino Pro's release date but I'm glad it's early May.
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  • Reply 37 of 46
    sybariticsybaritic Posts: 340member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Brian Green View Post


    I learned my lesson buying a 2GHz G5 iMac some years ago. I'll never purchase another all-in-one again. So I have to pony up the dough and get a Mac Pro and call it good.



    I'm in the same boat. My upgrade cycle has gone something like this: PowerCenter Pro 180 to a G4 dual 1GHz and then on to a 2GHz iMac G5. On the latter two models I've used everything from Photoshop to After Effects, Final Cut, Pro Tools, and the Macromedia apps. I'm laboring under slow render times, obviously, though I've loved OS X and the stability of the machines themselves. I went with the iMac instead of a tower because I needed some degree of portability -- the iLugger comes in handy -- but the GPU is now ancient by today's standards and there is no upgrade available.



    Your point about the all-in-one models (as attractive as they are) is well-taken, particularly for anyone doing heavy multimedia lifting. At this point I crave a beast of a machine to transition comfortably to output from Panasonic's AG-HVX200 camcorder or some such device. The current models would do the trick, but the prospect of on-chip graphic processors almost makes me want to wait one or two cycles longer. Technology marches on, though, and work must be completed, so it's back to the old adage of choosing the best tool that one can afford at the time.
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  • Reply 38 of 46
    sthiedesthiede Posts: 307member
    ok here is my input:



    NAB - new Mac Pros and slew of pro app updates



    WWDC - Leopard, MBPs, iPhone and new Mac Minis. The minis will be the new headless mac we've been wanting, they will be so customizable it will blow your mind!



    MacBooks will have a silent upgrade on their aniversary.



    just my 2 cents
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  • Reply 39 of 46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sybaritic View Post


    I'm in the same boat. My upgrade cycle has gone something like this: PowerCenter Pro 180 to a G4 dual 1GHz and then on to a 2GHz iMac G5. On the latter two models I've used everything from Photoshop to After Effects, Final Cut, Pro Tools, and the Macromedia apps. I'm laboring under slow render times, obviously, though I've loved OS X and the stability of the machines themselves. I went with the iMac instead of a tower because I needed some degree of portability -- the iLugger comes in handy -- but the GPU is now ancient by today's standards and there is no upgrade available.



    Your point about the all-in-one models (as attractive as they are) is well-taken, particularly for anyone doing heavy multimedia lifting. At this point I crave a beast of a machine to transition comfortably to output from Panasonic's AG-HVX200 camcorder or some such device. The current models would do the trick, but the prospect of on-chip graphic processors almost makes me want to wait one or two cycles longer. Technology marches on, though, and work must be completed, so it's back to the old adage of choosing the best tool that one can afford at the time.





    The prospect of a chip dedicated to H.264 leaving the CPU's to do everything else is something that has kept me from purchasing a current Mac Pro. I have a Sony high definition camcorder (1080i) and editing the footage just punishes my 2.16 GHz MBP. Hopefully we'll see the new Mac Pro's (and accompanying new screens) at the NAB. Then it'll all come down to availability and what components are offered. I also wish Apple wouldn't charge so much on the RAM. I'd rather just buy it outright from the store ready to go, but I always have to buy 3rd party RAM because Apple charges way too much for it.
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  • Reply 40 of 46
    macroninmacronin Posts: 1,174member
    I know for a fact that new iMacs will be released within the next two weeks…



    I know this because I just got the go-ahead to order an iMac for work, which i will be doing first thing in the morning…!



    ;^p
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