Apple to adopt ZFS as default file system for Leopard
Just found on www.macrumors.com
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Perhaps overcome with excitement (and forgetting that Apple doesn't like such pre-emptive disclosures), Sun's Jonathan Schwartz announced today at Sun event in Washington D.C. that Apple would be making ZFS "the file system" in Mac OS 10.5 Leopard (video link, requires RealPlayer).
In fact, this week you'll see that Apple is announcing at their Worldwide Developer Conference that ZFS has become the file system in Mac OS 10.
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Link To Vid: silly ass long link
Comments?
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Perhaps overcome with excitement (and forgetting that Apple doesn't like such pre-emptive disclosures), Sun's Jonathan Schwartz announced today at Sun event in Washington D.C. that Apple would be making ZFS "the file system" in Mac OS 10.5 Leopard (video link, requires RealPlayer).
In fact, this week you'll see that Apple is announcing at their Worldwide Developer Conference that ZFS has become the file system in Mac OS 10.
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Link To Vid: silly ass long link
Comments?
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Apple must have piled on the engineers to sort out a boot solution.
If true, this is great news!
Apple must have piled on the engineers to sort out a boot solution.
Indeed... Funny I just downloaded realplayer to watch the clip and it's not showing any keynote instead some odd instructional video on taking video or photos...
Odd...
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Indeed... Funny I just downloaded realplayer to watch the clip and it's not showing any keynote instead some odd instructional video on taking video or photos...
Odd...
D
The Steve is powerful. Next, when you go to the Sun site you'll find a pottery enthusiast page.
Do not pre-announce the Steve's magics.
Schwartz made the plans public while speaking to analysts and members of the media at a company event in nation's capital on Wednesday. The event was primarily aimed at hyping a more flexible array of blade servers.
"In fact, this week you'll see that Apple is announcing at their Worldwide Developer Conference that ZFS has become the file system in Mac OS 10," he said while speaking of his firm's file system (Real Player video link).
Originally conceived by Sun as a foundation for its Solaris operating system, ZFS features high capacity, a novel on-disk structure, lightweight instances, and the integration of the concepts for volume management.
Unlike a traditional file system, which resides on a single device and thus requires a volume manager to use more than one device, ZFS is built on top of virtual storage pools called zpools. A pool is constructed from virtual devices, each of which is either a raw device, a mirror of one or more devices, or a RAID-Z group of two or more devices.
ZFS would replace Apple's current default file system, Journaled HFS+, beginning with October's release of Leopard, according to Schwartz' comments.
[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]
If it isn't going to be compatible, then it'll suck. Otherwise, all is well, no?
-tj
why release new hardware (MB/MBPs) and render their systems incompatible only days/months later?
Nearly 5 months till the announced Leopard release, so that's a reasonable stretch till the next revision, and given recent history that revision could easily be a major one.
It makes sense to do basic "keeping up with the Joneses" CPU/graphics card/HDD until then, and might explain why there hasn't been anything more substantial for a while.
why release new hardware (MB/MBPs) and render their systems incompatible only days/months later?
Yes, of course, they should just stop developing anything new!
Also, how does this render the new systems incompatible? It's a filesystem.
That likely means that Time Machine is going to be based on ZFS snapshots rather than Journaled HFS+
Sun's Schwartz made a boo boo by spilling the beans but ZFS isn't going to be a Top Secret Leopard feature. It's already known that ZFS support was in the betas albeit non bootable.
If true, this is great news!
Apple must have piled on the engineers to sort out a boot solution.
This makes sense. That must be why there hasn't been much news about ZFS development lately. It was pulled under Apple's iron curtain where the boot problem and other bugs are hopefully being fixed. Maybe Apple decided to let Sun have the thunder on this one by announcing it before them (since it is their tech and all and Apple should have plenty to announce for themselves).
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That likely means that Time Machine is going to be based on ZFS snapshots rather than Journaled HFS+
Sun's Schwartz made a boo boo by spilling the beans but ZFS isn't going to be a Top Secret Leopard feature. It's already known that ZFS support was in the betas albeit non bootable.
I don't think Time Machine is based on ZFS, though it will certainly work WITH ZFS if you use ZFS. Hasn't Time Machine been in the betas so far, working HFS+?
I don't think people will have to move to ZFS, but it's VERY nice to have the capability! The speed and reliability benefits sound huge.
Also as far as time machine using ZFS I wouldn't be too sure... It'll be a safe bet that initially TM will work with HFS+ as well as ZFS and thus might not be taking advantage of specific features of ZFS - at least not right away...
Dave
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That likely means that Time Machine is going to be based on ZFS snapshots rather than Journaled HFS+
I still fail to see in what ways ZFS affects the computing experience in everyday general use.
I ran out of space on my main/boot harddrive because of video. With ZFS, I think I should be able to extend the filesystem so that it looks like all my videos are under my own username/home directory but actually are on 2 separate drives.
Any insights on how ZFS might benefit users?
ZFS is VERY reliable. Unlike Journaling on HFS+, there is no performance penalty for increased (actually, much better than in HFS+) reliability.
If you make a search, you may find stunning performance results. This is not the best one:
http://www.helios.de/news/news07/zfs.phtml
In many cases you may think this is impossible because it is beyond the hardware limits of the drive speed/interface bandwidth.
Microsoft failed to deliver the promised new file system with Vista. And Apple is going to speak very loudly about ZFS benefits.
I would think that ZFS would allow you to have a virtual filesystem that crosses physical boundaries of hard drives.
I ran out of space on my main/boot harddrive because of video. With ZFS, I think I should be able to extend the filesystem so that it looks like all my videos are under my own username/home directory but actually are on 2 separate drives.
Any insights on how ZFS might benefit users?
You are absolutely correct with your assumption. If you want to read more wikipedia is a good place to start.
I ran out of space on my main/boot harddrive because of video. With ZFS, I think I should be able to extend the filesystem so that it looks like all my videos are under my own username/home directory but actually are on 2 separate drives.
Exactly, you will be able. This particular feature is not really new for the UNIX world (it was there for ages) but it was never there in Mac OS 9 - X and all flavors of Windows. You should be careful with this however. If you are not using RAID configurations, you should avoid using, for example, 2 filesystems spread around two physical drives each (e.g. for increased performance) if at least one of them could reside on a single drive. You will be in trouble if one of the drives fails, or if you decide to remove it.
Edit: Project2501 was faster