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found this comment over on the yahoo apple stock message boards. any ideas on what they are referring to? :



I'm at WWDC and we've had agree to terms of silence on the details here...but all I can tell you is...WOW. This is all I can share with you since this is already public domain. This evening is making history Hang in there guys, Apple's magnum opus will be well worth the wait!!!!!!



http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/schedule...





he uses the term magnum opus again and on google i do find reference to some kind of program which draws links between data points..



http://software.techrepublic.com.com...ng&docid=79001

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  • Reply 1 of 16
    feartecfeartec Posts: 119member
    He talking about the ZFS storage pool found in Solaris? It's pretty cool being able to throw on hard drives and have them just add to the others and make a bigger pool, I use the new Solaris version at work and I can't wait to see the similarities...



    http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819...7ht6qro?a=view
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  • Reply 2 of 16
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,558moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by macfly View Post


    I'm at WWDC and we've had agree to terms of silence on the details here...but all I can tell you is...WOW. This is all I can share with you since this is already public domain. This evening is making history Hang in there guys, Apple's magnum opus will be well worth the wait!!!!!!



    Well, as long as people who actually attended the event can say this then I guess there's nothing to worry about. Is there another event coming when all this stuff will be revealed? Also, are you saying they let you guys in on stuff that is really cool but still secret or are you saying they have said there's more to come but only dropped hints and you're trying to guess what it is?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by macfly


    he uses the term magnum opus again and on google i do find reference to some kind of program which draws links between data points..



    Um isn't Leopard their Magnum Opus? It's the pinnacle of OS X's development.
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  • Reply 3 of 16
    macflymacfly Posts: 256member
    i assume he is referring to leopard too but they way he kept using the phrase made me wonder if something else was behind it. i only posted this becasue i hoped someone else might have some insights or comments. doesnt look like appleinsider gets much attention these days. only 4 people or so have even viewed this thread!

    i was guessing that there are still secret things that have not been released to the public yet. hoping there is an announcement friday about new imacs or mini's or something. the stock sure needs a little boost about now
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  • Reply 4 of 16
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    i hoped someone else might have some insights or comments. doesnt look like appleinsider gets much attention these days. only 4 people or so have even viewed this thread!





    You'll get more thread-views if you title them with something more descriptive.



    Just sayin'.
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  • Reply 5 of 16
    dazabritdazabrit Posts: 273member
    This certainly is an interesting one! Can we get the thread renamed to something more appropriate like...... 'Bloody hell we might have our faces melted off by Leopards Secret Gorgeousness after all'.



    Something descriptive anyhoo
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  • Reply 6 of 16
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,558moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by macfly View Post


    i was guessing that there are still secret things that have not been released to the public yet. hoping there is an announcement friday about new imacs or mini's or something. the stock sure needs a little boost about now



    But you said:



    "I'm at WWDC and we've had agree to terms of silence on the details here...but all I can tell you is...WOW.



    Apple's magnum opus will be well worth the wait!"



    What's the point in agreeing to not say anything if you don't actually know anything and you're just guessing? Also, if you don't know anything, then how can you say it will be worth the wait? I thought WWDC would be worth the wait and it wasn't. I thought waiting for a Mac Mini update 2 months ago would be worth the wait, guess what.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dazabrit


    This certainly is an interesting one! Can we get the thread renamed to something more appropriate like...... 'Bloody hell we might have our faces melted off by Leopards Secret Gorgeousness after all'.



    I would have preferred:



    'OMG I'm at WWDC and I've got secrets to share with you'



    and the first post would have been:



    'I've just seen a Cube running a ZFS filesystem with the *real* Leopard desktop and Windows and Linux are running at the same time and it is one speedy system, they've sure optimized this since Tiger. It's as snappy as Windows now. I'm guessing it's because of the 8600M GT GPU, which they bundle with it and all for under £600 too.'
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  • Reply 7 of 16
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    But you said:



    "I'm at WWDC and we've had agree to terms of silence on the details here...but all I can tell you is...WOW.



    Apple's magnum opus will be well worth the wait!"



    What's the point in agreeing to not say anything if you don't actually know anything and you're just guessing? Also, if you don't know anything, then how can you say it will be worth the wait? I thought WWDC would be worth the wait and it wasn't. I thought waiting for a Mac Mini update 2 months ago would be worth the wait, guess what.







    I would have preferred:



    'OMG I'm at WWDC and I've got secrets to share with you'



    and the first post would have been:



    'I've just seen a Cube running a ZFS filesystem with the *real* Leopard desktop and Windows and Linux are running at the same time and it is one speedy system, they've sure optimized this since Tiger. It's as snappy as Windows now. I'm guessing it's because of the 8600M GT GPU, which they bundle with it and all for under £600 too.'



    Look again Marvin (it's misleading because the OP didn't use quotes).



    The first statement is quoting a poster on another site, the second is the OP's own thoughts.
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  • Reply 8 of 16
    macflymacfly Posts: 256member
    thank you. guess i should have named it something like 'wwdc renegade poster exclaims...'

    I was, indeed, posting the comments of someone else who posted on a yahoo message board. he was claiming to have seen or heard something that was 'wow'-ing to him.

    he suggested that the 'to be announced' evening sessions were exposing some incredible information that would change the landscape soon. i was simply wondering if there were others out there that might have heard similar rumors or know first hand.

    this being a rumor site, i guessed people might be interested.\
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  • Reply 9 of 16
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,558moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by macfly View Post


    thank you. guess i should have named it something like 'wwdc renegade poster exclaims...'



    That's much better.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by macfly View Post


    I was, indeed, posting the comments of someone else who posted on a yahoo message board. he was claiming to have seen or heard something that was 'wow'-ing to him.

    he suggested that the 'to be announced' evening sessions were exposing some incredible information that would change the landscape soon. i was simply wondering if there were others out there that might have heard similar rumors or know first hand.

    this being a rumor site, i guessed people might be interested.\



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by addabox


    Look again Marvin (it's misleading because the OP didn't use quotes).



    The first statement is quoting a poster on another site, the second is the OP's own thoughts.



    Sorry, I thought the OP was saying he went to the WWDC. I missed the bit about the quote completely.



    Ok, so there's some guy who was at the WWDC can't say much but he's very impressed with the WWDC and he mentions Magnum Opus a few times.



    Not much to derive from it features-wise and people have said things like this in the past but it's all we've got so yeah thanks for posting it. It sure beats having another iphone thread.
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  • Reply 10 of 16
    macflymacfly Posts: 256member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    It sure beats having another iphone thread.



    lol. yeah. guess i was getting fed up with the boards here. sure have changed a lot over the past two years. AI used to be incredibly busy with all sorts of great speculation. seems pretty slow as of late.

    so yeah, i was hoping that there is SOMEONE out there with a secret burning a hole in their will power who can throw us even a little bone.

    WE ARE GOING CRAZY!!!!

    or at least I am. there has to be some info out there...please?!!!
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  • Reply 11 of 16
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Honestly, by now I would have expected a little more info floating around the internets, NDA or no.
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  • Reply 12 of 16
    tyrihanstyrihans Posts: 60member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    Honestly, by now I would have expected a little more info floating around the internets, NDA or no.



    So true. The radiosilence from WWDC07 is either a very special version of the omertÃ* among the attending 5K+ developers that even the mafia itself wouldn't be able to enforce, or (even more scary) there simply is nothing more to say.



    Regardless of why, the silence is absolutely deafening...
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  • Reply 13 of 16
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,558moderator
    I really just want to hear more things like:



    "Leopard is a lot cooler than what they showed in the Keynote. If you use a Mac in a business environment, Leopard is going to be very cool for you. Apple has really listened to the feedback from thier business and education customers about working with Macs in network environments and they've made some really terrific changes as a result. I was in a session today where they announced a couple of daemons were going away and the crowd of ITpeople erupted into applause.

    Apple is listening to our complaints about responsiveness and performance. They hate the beachball too. They know AFP can be a pain in the rear. Leopard seems to address a lot of this.

    For those panicing about the minimum requirements, it's premature. The Developer Preview runs on any G4, G5 and Intel Macs. That includes G4 minis and eMacs.



    Leopard seems to be a lot more substance than sizzle, and I think that's a very good thing."



    and that was from last year. But then when I saw Jobs opening a document on stage it still took ages. You saw even he was getting a touch impatient and he'll be using a Mac Pro or something. That's likely the app itself and not Leopard but I notice it in most Cocoa apps. Load times are so slow.



    However, I found this video on youtube which looks like it's quite snappy and it looks like it's on a MB:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1iSIkyiAVk



    This one looks a bit slower but I think it was on a G4:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXqMJrvTdjc



    None of those have the new dock either. I really want to see it on an actual desktop and see how/if it slides in and out.
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  • Reply 14 of 16
    shadowshadow Posts: 373member
    One of the links to magnum opus describes a technology similar to Apple's ADD - automatic data discovery (see here). As far as I know It was first used in mail filter in Tiger's Mail application, but in very early and experimental form, and now is used to discover mails, phone numbers etc. system wide, just as spellchecking works. May be what macfly wants to say is that there is a public API to be used by developers announced at WWDC. If so, this is one more technology (along with CoreAnimation, CoreImage, CoreDara, ImageKit, Spotlight APIs, TimeMachine APIs etc.) which will make Mac OS a better platform for developers.
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  • Reply 15 of 16
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tyrihans View Post


    So true. The radiosilence from WWDC07 is either a very special version of the omertÃ* among the attending 5K+ developers that even the mafia itself wouldn't be able to enforce, or (even more scary) there simply is nothing more to say.



    Regardless of why, the silence is absolutely deafening...



    It will take some time to get used to it, but I think this is it. In the meantime, say with me "the iPhone sucks... literally".
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  • Reply 16 of 16
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    I really just want to hear more things like:



    "Leopard is a lot cooler than what they showed in the Keynote. If you use a Mac in a business environment, Leopard is going to be very cool for you. Apple has really listened to the feedback from thier business and education customers about working with Macs in network environments and they've made some really terrific changes as a result. I was in a session today where they announced a couple of daemons were going away and the crowd of ITpeople erupted into applause.

    Apple is listening to our complaints about responsiveness and performance. They hate the beachball too. They know AFP can be a pain in the rear. Leopard seems to address a lot of this.

    For those panicing about the minimum requirements, it's premature. The Developer Preview runs on any G4, G5 and Intel Macs. That includes G4 minis and eMacs.



    Leopard seems to be a lot more substance than sizzle, and I think that's a very good thing."



    and that was from last year. But then when I saw Jobs opening a document on stage it still took ages. You saw even he was getting a touch impatient and he'll be using a Mac Pro or something. That's likely the app itself and not Leopard but I notice it in most Cocoa apps. Load times are so slow.



    However, I found this video on youtube which looks like it's quite snappy and it looks like it's on a MB:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1iSIkyiAVk



    This one looks a bit slower but I think it was on a G4:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXqMJrvTdjc



    None of those have the new dock either. I really want to see it on an actual desktop and see how/if it slides in and out.



    That second link shows "split and drop down at the point of click" menus, of the sort already on the redesigned Apple website, being used as an interface element in iChat.



    Not sure how I feel about this: it basically replaces (or, I suppose, "augments") drop-down horizontal menu layout, which maintains persistent positioning of possible selections, with a vertical layout that changes where the possible selections are, depending on what you have already selected. Kind of funky.
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