iPhone doesn't have it list

not unlike myself · June 27, 2007 8:15AM

Which list is shorter? What the phone is packing or what the phone is lacking?

(from another website) + my additions.

• Songs as Ringtones

• Alarm Clock

• Games

• Javascript support

• Any flash support

• Instant Messaging

• Picture messages (MMS)

• Video recording

• VPN

• Softphone (ipPhones)

• Wireless synch

• Voice recognition or voice dialing

• Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP)

• Vibration Mode

• RSS Support

• Wifi sharing of content (ala Zune)

• One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)

• Use of bluetooth as a 'modem'

• Handwriting Recognition

• Dot Mac Integration

• Google Doc support

Stuff we already knew it didn't have

• 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)

• GPS

• Flash (for camera)

• A real keyboard

• Removable battery

• Expandable Storage

• Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)

outsider · June 27, 2007 8:45AM

• Songs as Ringtones - Who over the age of 16 really wants this? How much of a deal breaker is this in reality?

• Alarm Clock - Would be nice to have. Not sure if it is included just not advertised because it is so minor.

• Games - There will be tons of web based games out very very soon.

• Javascript support - Huh? It has this.

• Any flash support - I hope Apple and Adobe are working on rectifying this. I can see it as a future software upgrade in a month or 2.

• Instant Messaging - there are sites like meebo.com and others that will let you chat via web. Apple can roll these features out fairly easily as well.

• Picture messages (MMS) - meh. never used them and I would find email a lot more versatile (not to mention cheaper). For those who need them, maybe emailing them to people's MMS account will work ([email protected])

• Video recording - Would be nice but not a deal breaker.

• VPN - I read somewhere that VPN is included.

• Softphone (ipPhones) - Yeah right. Like ATT would go for that.

• Wireless synch - Meh, i know how slow BT is for data transfer.

• Voice recognition or voice dialing - This would be nice. I would like to see Apple introduce this with the next version or as a software upgrade.

• Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP) - Meh.

• Vibration Mode - Has it.

• RSS Support - Has it via Safari.

• Wifi sharing of content (ala Zune) - The record companies would not go for this and MS's way of doing it is pretty crappy.

• One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones) - Um, OK?

• Use of bluetooth as a 'modem' - That would be useful albiet slow.

• Handwriting Recognition - ?? Really? Going back 5 years in usability to include a stylus?

• Dot Mac Integration - Agreed.

• Google Doc support - agreed, maybe already possible. We'll see.

nvidia2008 · June 27, 2007 8:50AM

• Songs as Ringtones

Frack it.

• Alarm Clock

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

• Games

Frack it.

• Javascript support

Frack it. Edit: should have this Web2.0/AJAX/whatever

• Any flash support

Frack it.

• Instant Messaging

Frack it.

• Picture messages (MMS)

Frack it, I never use it on my SonyE.

• Video recording

See above.

• VPN

This is ridiculous. Edit: Okay, for corporate customers this will be important.

• Softphone (ipPhones)

Frack it.

• Wireless synch

Actually, that would be nice.

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

• Voice recognition or voice dialing

Frack it.

• Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP)

Meh.

• Vibration Mode

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

Though honestly I never feel my vibrating mobile anymore.

It does cause a scary rattling on the table though.

• RSS Support

Hmm...

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

• Wifi sharing of content (ala Zune)

I won't even take this seriously because you mentioned Zune.

• One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)

I think it is a standard headset jack AFAIK

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

• Use of bluetooth as a 'modem'

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

• Handwriting Recognition

Bollocks.

• Dot Mac Integration

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

• Google Doc support

Frack it.

• 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)

I am in Asia, I can wait for 3G version.

• GPS

Frack it. Would be nice within 2-3 years though.

• Flash (for camera)

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

• A real keyboard

This will never happen.

• Removable battery

Apple is evil, this will never happen.

• Expandable Storage

See above.

• Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)

Eventually, hopefully.

Just my raw thoughts for now.

outsider · June 27, 2007 9:02AM

About Alarms, I was just thinking, why not use the calendar? It has todo items with reminders.

a_greer · June 27, 2007 10:43AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvidia2008

• Songs as Ringtones

Frack it.

• Alarm Clock

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

• Games

Frack it.

• Javascript support

Frack it. Edit: should have this Web2.0/AJAX/whatever

• Instant Messaging

Frack it.

• Picture messages (MMS)

Frack it, I never use it on my SonyE.

• Video recording

See above.

• Wireless synch

Actually, that would be nice.

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

• Vibration Mode

iPhone should have this hopefully, if not now soon.

Though honestly I never feel my vibrating mobile anymore.

It does cause a scary rattling on the table though.

• 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)

I am in Asia, I can wait for 3G version.

• GPS

Frack it. Would be nice within 2-3 years though.

• A real keyboard

This will never happen.

• Removable battery

Apple is evil, this will never happen.

• Expandable Storage ****

See above.

.

The Razr I got for $50 16 months ago does all of this... the only thing it doesnt have is the card slot, that is on a slightly newer rev.

My 3 year old sprint sanyo could do all of this too (Summer 04) -- including GPS

FUCK THE iPhone

backtomac · June 27, 2007 10:56AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_greer

The Razr I got for $50 16 months ago does all of this... the only thing it doesnt have is the card slot, that is on a slightly newer rev.

F*ck the razr. I hate that phone. You want mine?

not unlike myself · June 27, 2007 11:02AM

[QUOTE=Outsider;1103192]? Songs as Ringtones - Who over the age of 16 really wants this? How much of a deal breaker is this in reality? Never said it was a deal breaker. But LOTS of people want it. And they are over 16.

? Games - There will be tons of web based games out very very soon.We shall see...

? Javascript support - Huh? It has this. Source?

? VPN - I read somewhere that VPN is included.Source?

? Softphone (ipPhones) - Yeah right. Like ATT would go for that. They could restrict for wifi only. And this will be a MUST for really 'breaking out' of the grid.

? Wireless synch - Meh, i know how slow BT is for data transfer. I was referring to wifi.

? Vibration Mode - Has it. Whoops.

? RSS Support - Has it via Safari. I actually don't think so....can't seem to find this.

jupiterone · June 27, 2007 11:03AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Unlike Myself

? Javascript support - Huh? It has this. Source?

Safari

Quote:

? RSS Support - Has it via Safari. I actually don't think so....can't seem to find this.

Have you tried Safari's page?

brussell · June 27, 2007 11:13AM

Javascript is the 'J' in AJAX, which is what Apple is pushing as the development environment for iPhone. It doesn't have Java.

lfe2211 · June 27, 2007 11:20AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Unlike Myself

Which list is shorter? What the phone is packing or what the phone is lacking?

(from another website) + my additions.

• Songs as Ringtones

• Alarm Clock

• Games

• Javascript support

• Any flash support

• Instant Messaging

• Picture messages (MMS)

• Video recording

• VPN

• Softphone (ipPhones)

• Wireless synch

• Voice recognition or voice dialing

• Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP)

• Vibration Mode

• RSS Support

• Wifi sharing of content (ala Zune)

• One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)

• Use of bluetooth as a 'modem'

• Handwriting Recognition

• Dot Mac Integration

• Google Doc support

Stuff we already knew it didn't have

• 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)

• GPS

• Flash (for camera)

• A real keyboard

• Removable battery

• Expandable Storage

• Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)

Unfortuneately, the iPhone:

1) will not cure the heartbreak of Psoriasis (sorry)

2) will not beam you up to the Enterprise (although Scottie is working hard on this)

3) will not have a Taser or Mace attachment (if v2 does, all NYPD police will have one as standard issue)

4) will not cure your smoking, drinking, Crachberry or prescription drug addiction (but may act as a surrogate for said conditions)

5) will not be a replacement for Viagra or Levitra (but you won't have to worry about priapism)

6) will not allow you to get the woman/man of your dreams (however, I might be wrong about this one )

7) will not predict the winner of the 5th at Belmont this saturday (but you will be able to get the race results after it's run)

8) does not have a Harry Potter-esque "Time Turner" (Apple did consult with JK Rowling but she would not divulge its secrets)

9) will not replace a flux capacitor (although Dr. Emmit Brown is rumored to be working hard on this)

10) will not have a light saber attachment (but the Force will definitely be with you!)

bavlondon2 · June 27, 2007 11:28AM

Why the hell did they leave out video recording. Its almost going backwards to be honest with all this stuff lacking. And on top of that they want to charge premium lol No chance in hell.

What a joke

cosmonut · June 27, 2007 11:46AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JupiterOne

Have you tried Safari's page?

But the various videos on Apple's site don't seem to show any button or link that enables RSS in Safari on the iPhone. I use RSS in Safari on my Mac all the time, but it appears that RSS is disabled in iPhone's version of Safari.

I could be wrong.

dstranathan · June 27, 2007 11:56AM

My list:

Microsoft Exchange support (besides IMAP)

Cut/Copy/Paste functionality

VPN client

SSH client

ARD admin/client? Or VNC.

SDK - "Power to the programmers"

MMS support for phone-to-phone pics

Java/Flash support

.Mac integration (I bet this happens)

SlingPlayer client

User created/edited ring tones from songs etc

VOIP - Like the Cisco iPhone LOL

Flash expansion card for storage (since the internal storage is small)

GPS support (I shoudn't have to tell Google Maps where I am, it should tell me!)

Replaceable Battery

iTunes Music Store connectivity.

iChat app (Yahoo, AIM etc) Adium mobile?

Standard SIM card (Unlock the iPhone)

Bigger internal storage 4/8 GB is pretty small

Voice dial

Robust alarm clock app

Video camera

Lower price!

T-Mobile :0)

Fix 1/2 of the issues on this list and Ill give you my money Apple.

drazztikka · June 27, 2007 1:06PM

My guess is they will add stuff later, maybe when the europe version get's out.

There are too much shortcomings for me to buy one right now. (& i'm in europe

)

I haven't read all about the iphone but I see some issues with it.

-connectivity 'on the road' / bandwidth

-quicktime/realplayer/windows media support in safari

-no alarm clock

-no exchangable battery

-it should have real gps instead of google maps

-chat program

That's about it, people here stated a ridiculous amount of services not available on the iphone like:

-mms: who cares? Kids... are kids gonna buy an iphone of 500 bucks? If u really need to send a picture U'd mail it, mms is about to die, all phones will become small computers.

-ringtones: i'd make my own ringtone in garageband or some other prog

-java: don't care much about it, apple should make safari the way it's on a normal computer.

My thoughts...

elron · June 27, 2007 1:12PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Unlike Myself

• Javascript support - Huh? It has this. Source?

I think you may be confusing Java with Javascript.

Java is a programming language used heavily in enterprise software and occasionally for desktop applications (Azureus, the popular BitTorrent client, is a Java program). Java's competitors are languages like C++ and the .Net languages.

Javascript is a client-side scripting language developed by Netscape (and originally named LiveScript) that enables certain dynamic behaviors on web sites. Its competitors are... well, there really aren't that many I guess. MS tried to get people to use VBScript with little success. I guess you could say Flash is a competitor in a way (isn't ActionScript a superset of Javascript? I'm not a big web guy).

In an attempt to capitalize on the huge buzz around Java, Netscape changed the name of their client-side scripting language shortly before it was released.

The truth is, the languages have almost nothing to do with each other, except for the convenient fact that they were released around the same time. See, back when Java first came out, it was billed as a way to make web pages more like desktop applications. Soon (or so the thinking went), every web page was going to be little more than a collection of Java "applets". Netscape wanted in on the hype, so LiveScript became JavaScript, and developers have been explaining the difference ever since.

edit: The iPhone will support JavaScript. I'd bet my first born on this. Hell, I'll throw in the second-born too. The iPhone will not support Java. J2ME (Java 2 Mobile Edition, if I had to hazard a guess) has become a very popular development platform for mobile phones and leaving it out is somewhat questionable. I wonder if the decision to do so was based in part on the fact that most J2ME applications were written for phones have have some kind of directional buttons / joystick. The iPhone's lack of this might cause some applications to function poorly or not at all.

guybrush threepwood · June 27, 2007 2:12PM

Throw in your wife and you've got yourself a deal.

a_greer · June 27, 2007 2:15PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backtomac

F*ck the razr. I hate that phone. You want mine?

if it doesnt have the "dust buildup under the screen" defect that Motorola and Cingular refuse to fix then I may acctually want it.

jupiterone · June 27, 2007 2:18PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_greer

"SONGS" no, but remember, my good man, an MP3 can be anything...am I weird because I like to fire up GarageBand or Soundtrack or Logic and make a one-of-a-kind ringtone so I dont have to contend with 12 people in the (public place) with the same tone?

I have a friend who used to assign Britney Spears' "Oops, I Did It Again" to the phone numbers of her one night stands.

a_greer · June 27, 2007 2:19PM

[QUOTE=Not Unlike Myself;1103279]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider

• Songs as Ringtones - Who over the age of 16 really wants this? How much of a deal breaker is this in reality?

"SONGS" no, but remember, my good man, an MP3 can be anything...am I weird because I like to fire up GarageBand or Soundtrack or Logic and make a one-of-a-kind ringtone so I dont have to contend with 12 people in the (public place) with the same tone?

If I cant drag\\drop MP3 and/or WAV files and use them as tones then it is a no go

backtomac · June 27, 2007 2:25PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_greer

if it doesnt have the "dust buildup under the screen" defect that Motorola and Cingular refuse to fix then I may acctually want it.

Not yet. But the charge indicator is unreliable. I've only thrown it against the wall, no wait I mean I've only dropped it a few times.

a_greer · June 27, 2007 2:31PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backtomac

Not yet. But the charge indicator is unreliable. I've only thrown it against the wall, no wait I mean I've only dropped it a few times.

WOW...I have dropped my razr down 2 flights of stairs onto concrete and it was just fine (other than the pre existing dust condition) at the bottom...anyone wanna try that with the iPhone?

iPhone doesn't have it list

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