Were they scratches next to the single button or just residue and dust from the shipping cover? If they were scratches I think I would want another one.
They are showing up now, they weren't before. Thanks for the photos guys. It would seem that no other websites out there have mastered the art of marco like you AI
picked one up in connecticut. walked into the mall at 5:00, saw over 400 people in line at the apple store, said now way. went to the att store... about 30 people in line. i had my phone at around 6:30 - would have had it earlier, but the att sales system kept crashing. while waiting for the system to come online so i could pay, the apple store SOLD OUT. in LESS than 30 minutes. soooooo glad i hopped into the smaller line.
one MAJOR PROBLEM: when att says you can add a $20 data plan to any existing plan, that is TOTAL BS. i HAD a plan i've been grandfathered into since 1999. they claim that now it is a "corporate plan" [yeah, 250 anytime, 5k night/weekends w/ one user is corporate. TOTAL BS. so now they're gouging me for $20 more per month for more minutes that i will never use... but hey, the minutes rollover, right?
Which means you'll just get more and more and more minutes that you'll never use. Mmmmmm... have fun with your 9,287 minutes come May, 2009.
well it looks like att has no idea what's going on with my account now and they will "call me back" once they get things resolved. so for now i can stare at a pretty picture of a globe on my iPhone, along with "activate iphone, connect to itunes", and "slide for emergency".
The guy says they've got a system internally that can triangulate from cell towers as a replacement for GPS, which he seems to think they'll be able to release. Not as accurate as GPS, but for automatically advancing the Google Maps directions... Perhaps as a OS update...
I live in Australia. There isn't even word of it coming here. Yeh sure they are saying 2008 for ASIA but our main carriers Tesltra and Optus have said that they are not interested in the iPhone. That leave Vodafone and Hutchison 3G Australia. Neither of which have great coverage. Also in Australia to get just 1gb of data a month you pay $50 Aus. I can not even imagine what a unlimited data charge would look like. Th reality is that if Australia gets it it is going to be so not the experience of Europe and the US.
hehe I think it is kind of funny that Apple has not done a little add on to include the iPhone in its dictionary. iPod works find but iPhone comes up with wrong spelling. Small things amuse small minds you know.
That is a sad tale from Australia. I came back from a semester Down Under on a Fulbright and I did suffer from Mac deprivation then, though the store took care of me by delivering. No iPhone ever would be a sad way to treat a loyal market. I have seen but not bought at the NYC 5th Avenue Store. Cooolll
I live in Australia. There isn't even word of it coming here. Yeh sure they are saying 2008 for ASIA but our main carriers Tesltra and Optus have said that they are not interested in the iPhone. That leave Vodafone and Hutchison 3G Australia. Neither of which have great coverage. Also in Australia to get just 1gb of data a month you pay $50 Aus. I can not even imagine what a unlimited data charge would look like. Th reality is that if Australia gets it it is going to be so not the experience of Europe and the US.
hehe I think it is kind of funny that Apple has not done a little add on to include the iPhone in its dictionary. iPod works find but iPhone comes up with wrong spelling. Small things amuse small minds you know.
I live in Sydney and i use vodafone, in my experience it has great coverage. It doesn't bother that telstra or optus don't want it as long as vodafone or 3 take to it. Though I am worried about the data plans like you mentioned, hope it is like in America but doubt it. On the bright side of it not coming out here for another year well least they will have got rid of any teething problems by then, also might have improvements by then:3g and more memory.
Why do people get excited over the *box* the product comes in??
I mean, I can understand people being excited about the iPhone getting released, and if you're in the US, actually being able to get your hands on one, but The Box? The Cables? The Warranty Card?
- It's a bit like a toddler getting excited by the wrapping paper at Christmas!
i walked into the soho apple store in nyc at 8.30 friday evening and did not wait at all. i just feel bad for those folks who camped out for days to beat me to puchase by 2 and half hours. alas. the phone rocks.
The guy says they've got a system internally that can triangulate from cell towers as a replacement for GPS, which he seems to think they'll be able to release. Not as accurate as GPS, but for automatically advancing the Google Maps directions... Perhaps as a OS update...
Other members have speculated about that, that functionality is actually part of the E911 regulations, all phones sold have to have that. Phone makers do not have to expose the functionality to the user. It's not GPS but it is probably "good enough". The standard is supposed to be accurate within 100 yards. It would be nice to be 10 yards, but I think 100 is accurate enough for me.
Also in Australia to get just 1gb of data a month you pay $50 Aus. I can not even imagine what a unlimited data charge would look like.
I'm not sure but I think at a certain point Cingular can 'deactivate' your phone for 'excessive data usage.' At another service provider it was like 175 mbs a month (I think, I read it about a week ago and really wasn't looking for that). So technically, that 1 gig is pretty damn good.
Same here in Finland, too sad we need to wait much longer
I have been watching news and video for this phone all night in here and I'll get that phone at best on october, thats pathetic, but whatever!
You realize there's no way for iPhone to reach Finland by October, right?
What Apple is selling to the US now is a very expensive non-3G phone that does not accept 3rd party apps, doesn't work with anyone's existing chargers or other accessories, has no changeable battery, has a ho-hum camera with no flash, doesn't record video or voice, doesn't handle video calls, doesn't record calls, and doesn't send MMS.
Apple hasn't even bothered to advertise Macs or iPods - not once - on TV or magazines. They don't have real brand recognition outside computer pros and artists.
Meanwhile, Nokia has total market domination (in a study done in 2006 where the the amounts of mobile devices were polled right off the network, Nokia phones measured 89%). They sell phones that have none of the deficiencies I listed, still have a pretty respectable ability to serve as a music player, and are cheap enough that you can get one of them plus a large iPod for the price of an iPhone. Now, a 2nd gen iPhone that cuts the above complaint list at least in half by including 3G and some other stuff.. that's what we'll get, it's just not feasible as early as October.
A former Nokia analyst, can't remember his name now, had a pretty nice analysis of this up on the web.
You realize there's no way for iPhone to reach Finland by October, right?
What Apple is selling to the US now is a very expensive non-3G phone that does not accept 3rd party apps, doesn't work with anyone's existing chargers or other accessories, has no changeable battery, has a ho-hum camera with no flash, doesn't record video or voice, doesn't handle video calls, doesn't record calls, and doesn't send MMS.
Apple hasn't even bothered to advertise Macs or iPods - not once - on TV or magazines. They don't have real brand recognition outside computer pros and artists.
Meanwhile, Nokia has total market domination (in a study done in 2006 where the the amounts of mobile devices were polled right off the network, Nokia phones measured 89%). They sell phones that have none of the deficiencies I listed, still have a pretty respectable ability to serve as a music player, and are cheap enough that you can get one of them plus a large iPod for the price of an iPhone. Now, a 2nd gen iPhone that cuts the above complaint list at least in half by including 3G and some other stuff.. that's what we'll get, it's just not feasible as early as October.
A former Nokia analyst, can't remember his name now, had a pretty nice analysis of this up on the web.
I 'm guessing you've not tried it out. Right? Several staunch critics here at AI ( agreer and SDW) have had a change of heart after actually using the thing. You can't appreciate the user interface until you use it and it's the best feature of all, IMO.
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Were they scratches next to the single button or just residue and dust from the shipping cover? If they were scratches I think I would want another one.
residue.
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Thanks for your advanced tip.
They are showing up now, they weren't before. Thanks for the photos guys. It would seem that no other websites out there have mastered the art of marco like you AI
I do what I can.
picked one up in connecticut. walked into the mall at 5:00, saw over 400 people in line at the apple store, said now way. went to the att store... about 30 people in line. i had my phone at around 6:30 - would have had it earlier, but the att sales system kept crashing. while waiting for the system to come online so i could pay, the apple store SOLD OUT. in LESS than 30 minutes. soooooo glad i hopped into the smaller line.
one MAJOR PROBLEM: when att says you can add a $20 data plan to any existing plan, that is TOTAL BS. i HAD a plan i've been grandfathered into since 1999. they claim that now it is a "corporate plan" [yeah, 250 anytime, 5k night/weekends w/ one user is corporate. TOTAL BS. so now they're gouging me for $20 more per month for more minutes that i will never use... but hey, the minutes rollover, right?
Which means you'll just get more and more and more minutes that you'll never use. Mmmmmm... have fun with your 9,287 minutes come May, 2009.
at least the sox have the bases loaded right now.
The guy says they've got a system internally that can triangulate from cell towers as a replacement for GPS, which he seems to think they'll be able to release. Not as accurate as GPS, but for automatically advancing the Google Maps directions... Perhaps as a OS update...
http://stream.ifixit.com/
Bonkers, why would anyone need one this soon?
I live in Australia. There isn't even word of it coming here. Yeh sure they are saying 2008 for ASIA but our main carriers Tesltra and Optus have said that they are not interested in the iPhone. That leave Vodafone and Hutchison 3G Australia. Neither of which have great coverage. Also in Australia to get just 1gb of data a month you pay $50 Aus. I can not even imagine what a unlimited data charge would look like. Th reality is that if Australia gets it it is going to be so not the experience of Europe and the US.
hehe I think it is kind of funny that Apple has not done a little add on to include the iPhone in its dictionary. iPod works find but iPhone comes up with wrong spelling. Small things amuse small minds you know.
That is a sad tale from Australia. I came back from a semester Down Under on a Fulbright and I did suffer from Mac deprivation then, though the store took care of me by delivering. No iPhone ever would be a sad way to treat a loyal market. I have seen but not bought at the NYC 5th Avenue Store. Cooolll
I live in Australia. There isn't even word of it coming here. Yeh sure they are saying 2008 for ASIA but our main carriers Tesltra and Optus have said that they are not interested in the iPhone. That leave Vodafone and Hutchison 3G Australia. Neither of which have great coverage. Also in Australia to get just 1gb of data a month you pay $50 Aus. I can not even imagine what a unlimited data charge would look like. Th reality is that if Australia gets it it is going to be so not the experience of Europe and the US.
hehe I think it is kind of funny that Apple has not done a little add on to include the iPhone in its dictionary. iPod works find but iPhone comes up with wrong spelling. Small things amuse small minds you know.
I live in Sydney and i use vodafone, in my experience it has great coverage. It doesn't bother that telstra or optus don't want it as long as vodafone or 3 take to it. Though I am worried about the data plans like you mentioned, hope it is like in America but doubt it. On the bright side of it not coming out here for another year well least they will have got rid of any teething problems by then, also might have improvements by then:3g and more memory.
I mean, I can understand people being excited about the iPhone getting released, and if you're in the US, actually being able to get your hands on one, but The Box? The Cables? The Warranty Card?
- It's a bit like a toddler getting excited by the wrapping paper at Christmas!
I would trade my entire Beanie Babie collection for one.
Maybe I can give my beanies too. I think I have four of them.
Off topic, but watch http://www.iphonelaunch.tv/ - they're interviewing an Apple R&D guy...
The guy says they've got a system internally that can triangulate from cell towers as a replacement for GPS, which he seems to think they'll be able to release. Not as accurate as GPS, but for automatically advancing the Google Maps directions... Perhaps as a OS update...
Other members have speculated about that, that functionality is actually part of the E911 regulations, all phones sold have to have that. Phone makers do not have to expose the functionality to the user. It's not GPS but it is probably "good enough". The standard is supposed to be accurate within 100 yards. It would be nice to be 10 yards, but I think 100 is accurate enough for me.
Also in Australia to get just 1gb of data a month you pay $50 Aus. I can not even imagine what a unlimited data charge would look like.
I'm not sure but I think at a certain point Cingular can 'deactivate' your phone for 'excessive data usage.' At another service provider it was like 175 mbs a month (I think, I read it about a week ago and really wasn't looking for that). So technically, that 1 gig is pretty damn good.
Same here in Finland, too sad we need to wait much longer
I have been watching news and video for this phone all night in here and I'll get that phone at best on october, thats pathetic, but whatever!
You realize there's no way for iPhone to reach Finland by October, right?
What Apple is selling to the US now is a very expensive non-3G phone that does not accept 3rd party apps, doesn't work with anyone's existing chargers or other accessories, has no changeable battery, has a ho-hum camera with no flash, doesn't record video or voice, doesn't handle video calls, doesn't record calls, and doesn't send MMS.
Apple hasn't even bothered to advertise Macs or iPods - not once - on TV or magazines. They don't have real brand recognition outside computer pros and artists.
Meanwhile, Nokia has total market domination (in a study done in 2006 where the the amounts of mobile devices were polled right off the network, Nokia phones measured 89%). They sell phones that have none of the deficiencies I listed, still have a pretty respectable ability to serve as a music player, and are cheap enough that you can get one of them plus a large iPod for the price of an iPhone. Now, a 2nd gen iPhone that cuts the above complaint list at least in half by including 3G and some other stuff.. that's what we'll get, it's just not feasible as early as October.
A former Nokia analyst, can't remember his name now, had a pretty nice analysis of this up on the web.
You realize there's no way for iPhone to reach Finland by October, right?
What Apple is selling to the US now is a very expensive non-3G phone that does not accept 3rd party apps, doesn't work with anyone's existing chargers or other accessories, has no changeable battery, has a ho-hum camera with no flash, doesn't record video or voice, doesn't handle video calls, doesn't record calls, and doesn't send MMS.
Apple hasn't even bothered to advertise Macs or iPods - not once - on TV or magazines. They don't have real brand recognition outside computer pros and artists.
Meanwhile, Nokia has total market domination (in a study done in 2006 where the the amounts of mobile devices were polled right off the network, Nokia phones measured 89%). They sell phones that have none of the deficiencies I listed, still have a pretty respectable ability to serve as a music player, and are cheap enough that you can get one of them plus a large iPod for the price of an iPhone. Now, a 2nd gen iPhone that cuts the above complaint list at least in half by including 3G and some other stuff.. that's what we'll get, it's just not feasible as early as October.
A former Nokia analyst, can't remember his name now, had a pretty nice analysis of this up on the web.
I 'm guessing you've not tried it out. Right? Several staunch critics here at AI ( agreer and SDW) have had a change of heart after actually using the thing. You can't appreciate the user interface until you use it and it's the best feature of all, IMO.