iCal dethrones iPhoto
as the slowest and, IMHO, most poorly done iApp. Just like iPhoto, the concept is awesome but it is seriously hindered by the slowness of the UI. Of course it is not a released product yet, but it sure made those 17 " iMacs feel like a dog.
Resizing is where it hurts the most. I guess Apple figures people won't resize that much and this seems to be a problem with most Brushed Metal apps but most noticeable with iCal. Dragging the resize widget in slow movements from making the window big, small, big, small, and big again the window will be catching up to the first size change before you are done with the sequence. With more than one "calendar" up on iCal at the same time there is noticeable delay between clicking on a calendar color and having that be the active calendar (color just to the front and is more vibrant) that becomes very frustrating.
On the show floor there were tons of questions like ?If we subscribe to someone?s calendar can we edit it? And if so what happens?? I?m sure questions like this will be answered shortly but the Apple staff was busy asking each other if anyone knew.
Also, can anyone explain to me why iCal is an ?i? App but address book isn?t? I think they should have left iCal as ?calendar? and put it in the same category as Mail, and Address Book. Hopefully things will improve (with an update to iPhoto soon?)
Just wanted to share, if someone already discussed this feel free to berate me and lock the thread
Resizing is where it hurts the most. I guess Apple figures people won't resize that much and this seems to be a problem with most Brushed Metal apps but most noticeable with iCal. Dragging the resize widget in slow movements from making the window big, small, big, small, and big again the window will be catching up to the first size change before you are done with the sequence. With more than one "calendar" up on iCal at the same time there is noticeable delay between clicking on a calendar color and having that be the active calendar (color just to the front and is more vibrant) that becomes very frustrating.
On the show floor there were tons of questions like ?If we subscribe to someone?s calendar can we edit it? And if so what happens?? I?m sure questions like this will be answered shortly but the Apple staff was busy asking each other if anyone knew.
Also, can anyone explain to me why iCal is an ?i? App but address book isn?t? I think they should have left iCal as ?calendar? and put it in the same category as Mail, and Address Book. Hopefully things will improve (with an update to iPhoto soon?)
Just wanted to share, if someone already discussed this feel free to berate me and lock the thread
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I can just imagine the confusing prefs for such an insane amalgamation...
<strong>they really should integrate Mail, iCal, and Address Book all into one app as an Entourage killer.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Better yet have them "Dock" into each other. That way you can run just the singular app if you want or Dock them into a nice neat UI.
As for iCal i'll reserve judgement until it ships in September..that's a full month and a half away.
<strong>they really should integrate Mail, iCal, and Address Book all into one app as an Entourage killer.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, they really should integrate Mail, Address Book, iTunes, iCal, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, TextEdit and Calculator and call it a Windows killer. Duh, wait a minute..
Integration of applications with distinct abilities is bad. It's nothing more than bloat. Plus, it goes against the whole UNIX philosophy -- one job, one tool.
iCal is way cool, IMHO.
<strong>they really should integrate Mail, iCal, and Address Book all into one app as an Entourage killer.</strong><hr></blockquote>
They probably want at least *one more update of office x, before they pull a stunt like that and get the entire M$ suite pulled off the platform.
You can see though ... their thinking about independance.
Mail. Address Book. Calendar.
simple, yes?
woudstock:
I'm not MWNY (actually at a resort on the Izu peninsula in Japan where the owner let me tap into his broadband to watch the keynote) so I haven't played with the new iMacs. Are they running 10.1.5 or 10.2? Since you mention the slow GUI you should mention this as Jaguar is reputed to have a much faster GUI.
[quote]as the slowest and, IMHO, most poorly done iApp. Just like iPhoto, the concept is awesome but it is seriously hindered by the slowness of the UI. <hr></blockquote>
Do you really wonder about this? Both are Cocoa apps.
I have a mobile and a Palm. While I love(d) Palm Desktop 5 years ago, it reeks of imperfect carbon port ... iCal will (I'm sure) be just dandy, and when Jag drops ...
\t... and when I get my p800 from SonyEricsson (built in camera, super-large touch-screen) I am going to be one slick, connected, organised, be-gadgeted motherfcuker.
I can hardly wait.
<strong>Just 'Calendar' would have been nicer.
Mail. Address Book. Calendar.
simple, yes?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I second that. iCal is a terrible name. Why is everything an iApp all of a sudden?
I agree!! This whole iCal, iSync crap is far too convoluted for little "Suzy iMac buyer". It strikes me that they already had the perfect moniker for this; iTools. This .Mac crap is just a moronic jab at MS. All these appz should be centralized under the iTools name. There should be a local install of iTools (the appz themselves), and then a web component (paid). Clean and simple.
<strong>As a proud owner of the T68i (the phone Steve demo'd Bluetooth with) I am DROOLING over iCal and over the Bluetooth support.
I have a mobile and a Palm. While I love(d) Palm Desktop 5 years ago, it reeks of imperfect carbon port ... iCal will (I'm sure) be just dandy, and when Jag drops ...
\t... and when I get my p800 from SonyEricsson (built in camera, super-large touch-screen) I am going to be one slick, connected, organised, be-gadgeted motherfcuker.
I can hardly wait.</strong><hr></blockquote>
mmmm, P800 drooliness!
I was chuffed and very satisfied about this part of the keynote yesterday. Apple in bed with Sony Ericsson is no bad thing either.
low-?i
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I second that. iCal is a terrible name. Why is everything an iApp all of a sudden?</strong><hr></blockquote>
would .Cal be any better for you?
<strong>IAnd, she hinted at groupware features to come.
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this would open up serious corporate avenues for apple. interesting... :cool:
The iMacs were running Jaguar build 6C94. The OS wasn't extremely slow, in it was just slower than I expected with playing quicktime movies and resizeing iCal in particular. It was studdering when playing two Quicktime movies at once, and even one movie would hiccup when minimizing (which I thought Quartz Exterme would take care of). The changing desktop background was smooth as silk though and very impressive.
I also crashed one iMac trying to connect to an ftp server (that doesn't use passive mode). But I still am withholding judgement on 10.2 since it isn't finished as well as iCal. My concern with iCal is that I don't see how it can improve, the resizing issue seems to be a result of redrawing all the caldendar events to fit no matter how you change the size. I'm just afraid it will be like iPhoto, slow until the next revision when it will become tolerable.
I hope they rename it to Calendar... just like Address Book and Mail. It really isn't a media application or so much a digital hub thing as just a neat app. But I don't know, it is kind of integrated, though iSync... And then again, Address Book has nothing to do with digital hub but has the brushed chrome, whereas Mail doesn't either but is Aqua. I just don't get it...
Will I be able to attach notes to appts? Link an appt to a contact in Address Book?
Just thinking . . .
<strong>I don't know, but when I think of the word "iCal" I don't think of calendar. What a stupid name.
I hope they rename it to Calendar... just like Address Book and Mail. It really isn't a media application or so much a digital hub thing as just a neat app. But I don't know, it is kind of integrated, though iSync... And then again, Address Book has nothing to do with digital hub but has the brushed chrome, whereas Mail doesn't either but is Aqua. I just don't get it...</strong><hr></blockquote>
No doubt. Apple sometimes has it's head up it's butt for naming applications.
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