In my opinion no. I've never used the numerical pad on the side. I've always used the numbers on the top of the keyboard because they're right there next to the letters.
Should have included the number keypads in the wireless version. That is why I did not get the wireless version with my 20" I just ordered. All of my paswords include patterns from the keypad.
Plus from what I hear there is like an extra 2-week shipping wait if you get the wireless keyboard.
Well at least they could offer two wireless versions. One with a number-pad for $10 more. It would keep everyone happy.
Oh fu** keeping a few whiners happy.
A Wireless keyboard is for portability. Yes the market for a huge ass wireless keyboard is just red hot and smoking. Apple needs to be focused on other important needs rather than worrying about a f***ing numeric keypad on a wireless keyboard.
A Wireless keyboard is for portability. Yes the market for a huge ass wireless keyboard is just red hot and smoking. Apple needs to be focused on other important needs rather than worrying about a f***ing numeric keypad on a wireless keyboard.
Hey I'm not complaining. I got a cool new keyboard with a numeric pad that will never be away from my computer. Others are getting a keyboard without. Thats cool.
So where are you going with this wireless keyboard? I'm just trying to picture you sitting at your computer desk thinking; "Well, I'd like to take this over to the couch 5 feet away, but dang! they went and put a friggin numeric keypad on the side. Just forget it! Or perhaps you are going to take just the keyboard down to starbucks. It's out of range of your iMac back at home and you couldn't see the screen from their anyways, but yeah! it fits in your backpack! Wahoo!
A Wireless keyboard is for portability. Yes the market for a huge ass wireless keyboard is just red hot and smoking. Apple needs to be focused on other important needs rather than worrying about a f***ing numeric keypad on a wireless keyboard.
Why does the guy with an iMac or Mac Pro need a wireless keyboard? Making a wireless keyboard with a keypad makes a boat load of sense to the MB and MBP user who wants a full keyboard layout. The fact that Apple offers no port replicator or docking solution for MBP users who may travel daily with their computer, yields yet another valid reason to have a wireless extended keyboard solution... thats one less wire to connect and disconnect daily. Without a doubt, the current keyboard's niche seems to be the Home Theatre, but wouldn't you also want to integrate some kind of pointing device to complete the offering?
Why does the guy with an iMac or Mac Pro need a wireless keyboard? Making a wireless keyboard with a keypad makes a boat load of sense to the MB and MBP user who wants a full keyboard layout. The fact that Apple offers no port replicator or docking solution for MBP users who may travel daily with their computer, yields yet another valid reason to have a wireless extended keyboard solution... thats one less wire to connect and disconnect daily. Without a doubt, the current keyboard's niche seems to be the Home Theatre, but wouldn't you also want to integrate some kind of pointing device to complete the offering?
So you're telling me that MB/MBP users are going to spend $50-80 on a keyboard which is %65 duplication of what they need when they could simply buy one of a plethora of USB Numeric Keypads?
Sounds a bit foolish when you take the size of a full size keyboard into accord. Home Theatre systems generally have simplified UI that can be navidated with arrow keys quite effectively.
1 - Page up / Page down. Having to use 2 hands (fn + down) is a pain in the ass, unless on the laptop itself, where the trackpad is right under your thumbs, and not to the right of the keyboard.
2 - For playing games. I play WoW, personally, and I need the full number pad, and all the F1 - F13+ buttons (without holding FN to use them), for attacks, abilities, and macros.
I require full keyboard functionality while maintaining my wireless lifestyle.
Ditch the numeric pad and put a trackpad in instead.
L/R versions & off course with BT...
To push it some more ditch BT, add wifi, add headphone socket, microphone, isight & make the trackpad a touch sensitive screen like the iphone. To see what you're doing when U cant look directly at your screen.
Why does the guy with an iMac or Mac Pro need a wireless keyboard? Making a wireless keyboard with a keypad makes a boat load of sense to the MB and MBP user who wants a full keyboard layout. The fact that Apple offers no port replicator or docking solution for MBP users who may travel daily with their computer, yields yet another valid reason to have a wireless extended keyboard solution... thats one less wire to connect and disconnect daily. Without a doubt, the current keyboard's niche seems to be the Home Theatre, but wouldn't you also want to integrate some kind of pointing device to complete the offering?
Agree, portability=wireless=less of the un-needed.
Excuse the dumb question but, I am about to order the imac with the wireless keyboard. It says that an existing keyboard and mouse is required for setup. Does that mean, if I choose the wireless keyboard and mouse they wont actually function from the initial setup? Sorry, first mac, first wireless device.
Huh? Trackpad? Why do you think notebook owners also own mice?
Just get the air-mouse and use it from across the room.Im not sure if there are any drivers for mac, i doubt it, but you could probably write your own or find one somwhere.
Why does the guy with an iMac or Mac Pro need a wireless keyboard? Making a wireless keyboard with a keypad makes a boat load of sense to the MB and MBP user who wants a full keyboard layout. The fact that Apple offers no port replicator or docking solution for MBP users who may travel daily with their computer, yields yet another valid reason to have a wireless extended keyboard solution... thats one less wire to connect and disconnect daily. Without a doubt, the current keyboard's niche seems to be the Home Theatre, but wouldn't you also want to integrate some kind of pointing device to complete the offering?
I agree, what's the point replicating the smaller layout - I want an extended keyboard for my MacBook Pro but will have to put up with more wires tangling up in my bag.
The new wireless keyboard is perfect, I have been looking for such a keyboard for ages (to allow me to dock my PB without having to use a sucky big keyboard). Already ordered two.
The small wireless keyboard would also work extremely well with a Mac mini under the TV...
Most PC-people at my work have switched to small and flat keyboards for ergonomic reasons (although some also have separate numpads).
Having a keyboard without numpad is much better from an ergonomic point of view as this puts the normal QWERTY-keys right in front of you + enables you to hold the mouse (if right handed) with the right arm closer to your body. A really flat keyboard (ideally one that is higher closer to you) is better for the wrists as you don't have to bend them upwards when typing.
Gonna miss my trackpad (two-finger scrolling rocks) when docking the PB though.
Wish Apple could have made a wireless keyboard with a PB layout - including back lit keys and a trackpad!
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Pros:
Without the number pad, the keyboard is lighter and smaller. One of the reasons people require a wireless keyboard is for portability.
With the keypad out, its balanced for typing on your lap.
Easy to store in a drawer or other small space.
Cons:
The 10key is very useful for data entry.
As a desktop keyboard replacement it's not an ideal replacement.
Missing useful keys suck as forward delete and page up/down keys.
Small cursor keys.
Plus from what I hear there is like an extra 2-week shipping wait if you get the wireless keyboard.
I think a better question is should apple have a wireless keyboard with integrated trackpad?
Huh? Trackpad? Why do you think notebook owners also own mice?
Well at least they could offer two wireless versions. One with a number-pad for $10 more. It would keep everyone happy.
Oh fu** keeping a few whiners happy.
A Wireless keyboard is for portability. Yes the market for a huge ass wireless keyboard is just red hot and smoking. Apple needs to be focused on other important needs rather than worrying about a f***ing numeric keypad on a wireless keyboard.
Oh fu** keeping a few whiners happy.
A Wireless keyboard is for portability. Yes the market for a huge ass wireless keyboard is just red hot and smoking. Apple needs to be focused on other important needs rather than worrying about a f***ing numeric keypad on a wireless keyboard.
Hey I'm not complaining. I got a cool new keyboard with a numeric pad that will never be away from my computer. Others are getting a keyboard without. Thats cool.
So where are you going with this wireless keyboard? I'm just trying to picture you sitting at your computer desk thinking; "Well, I'd like to take this over to the couch 5 feet away, but dang! they went and put a friggin numeric keypad on the side. Just forget it! Or perhaps you are going to take just the keyboard down to starbucks. It's out of range of your iMac back at home and you couldn't see the screen from their anyways, but yeah! it fits in your backpack! Wahoo!
Huh? Trackpad?
A wireless keyboard with integrated trackpad is much easier to use when sitting on the sofa than a wireless keyboard and seperate mouse.
Oh fu** keeping a few whiners happy.
A Wireless keyboard is for portability. Yes the market for a huge ass wireless keyboard is just red hot and smoking. Apple needs to be focused on other important needs rather than worrying about a f***ing numeric keypad on a wireless keyboard.
Why does the guy with an iMac or Mac Pro need a wireless keyboard? Making a wireless keyboard with a keypad makes a boat load of sense to the MB and MBP user who wants a full keyboard layout. The fact that Apple offers no port replicator or docking solution for MBP users who may travel daily with their computer, yields yet another valid reason to have a wireless extended keyboard solution... thats one less wire to connect and disconnect daily. Without a doubt, the current keyboard's niche seems to be the Home Theatre, but wouldn't you also want to integrate some kind of pointing device to complete the offering?
Why does the guy with an iMac or Mac Pro need a wireless keyboard? Making a wireless keyboard with a keypad makes a boat load of sense to the MB and MBP user who wants a full keyboard layout. The fact that Apple offers no port replicator or docking solution for MBP users who may travel daily with their computer, yields yet another valid reason to have a wireless extended keyboard solution... thats one less wire to connect and disconnect daily. Without a doubt, the current keyboard's niche seems to be the Home Theatre, but wouldn't you also want to integrate some kind of pointing device to complete the offering?
So you're telling me that MB/MBP users are going to spend $50-80 on a keyboard which is %65 duplication of what they need when they could simply buy one of a plethora of USB Numeric Keypads?
Sounds a bit foolish when you take the size of a full size keyboard into accord. Home Theatre systems generally have simplified UI that can be navidated with arrow keys quite effectively.
I think these are the cries of a vocal minority
I think a better question is should apple have a wireless keyboard with integrated trackpad?
Excellent question.
1 - Page up / Page down. Having to use 2 hands (fn + down) is a pain in the ass, unless on the laptop itself, where the trackpad is right under your thumbs, and not to the right of the keyboard.
2 - For playing games. I play WoW, personally, and I need the full number pad, and all the F1 - F13+ buttons (without holding FN to use them), for attacks, abilities, and macros.
I require full keyboard functionality while maintaining my wireless lifestyle.
- Xidius
Ditch the numeric pad and put a trackpad in instead.
L/R versions & off course with BT...
To push it some more
Yeye battery life...
Why does the guy with an iMac or Mac Pro need a wireless keyboard? Making a wireless keyboard with a keypad makes a boat load of sense to the MB and MBP user who wants a full keyboard layout. The fact that Apple offers no port replicator or docking solution for MBP users who may travel daily with their computer, yields yet another valid reason to have a wireless extended keyboard solution... thats one less wire to connect and disconnect daily. Without a doubt, the current keyboard's niche seems to be the Home Theatre, but wouldn't you also want to integrate some kind of pointing device to complete the offering?
to eliminate the use of wires and clutter.
Excuse the dumb question but, I am about to order the imac with the wireless keyboard. It says that an existing keyboard and mouse is required for setup. Does that mean, if I choose the wireless keyboard and mouse they wont actually function from the initial setup? Sorry, first mac, first wireless device.
Thanks
Huh? Trackpad? Why do you think notebook owners also own mice?
Just get the air-mouse and use it from across the room.Im not sure if there are any drivers for mac, i doubt it, but you could probably write your own or find one somwhere.
Why does the guy with an iMac or Mac Pro need a wireless keyboard? Making a wireless keyboard with a keypad makes a boat load of sense to the MB and MBP user who wants a full keyboard layout. The fact that Apple offers no port replicator or docking solution for MBP users who may travel daily with their computer, yields yet another valid reason to have a wireless extended keyboard solution... thats one less wire to connect and disconnect daily. Without a doubt, the current keyboard's niche seems to be the Home Theatre, but wouldn't you also want to integrate some kind of pointing device to complete the offering?
I agree, what's the point replicating the smaller layout - I want an extended keyboard for my MacBook Pro but will have to put up with more wires tangling up in my bag.
The small wireless keyboard would also work extremely well with a Mac mini under the TV...
Most PC-people at my work have switched to small and flat keyboards for ergonomic reasons (although some also have separate numpads).
Having a keyboard without numpad is much better from an ergonomic point of view as this puts the normal QWERTY-keys right in front of you + enables you to hold the mouse (if right handed) with the right arm closer to your body. A really flat keyboard (ideally one that is higher closer to you) is better for the wrists as you don't have to bend them upwards when typing.
Gonna miss my trackpad (two-finger scrolling rocks) when docking the PB though.
Wish Apple could have made a wireless keyboard with a PB layout - including back lit keys and a trackpad!
Wish Apple could have made a wireless keyboard with a PB layout - including back lit keys and a trackpad!
Yup, they're definitely missing a trick here. Man, if I were in charge of Apple...