iApps galore. Where art thou cocoa Appleworks?

majormatt · July 22, 2002 6:27PM

I said it before, and Im saying it again.

It's been over a year since we got a quick and dirty carbon port of AW6, maybe steve figures no one likes to type reports or use spreadsheets anymore? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

Or maybe everyone can run off and buy Office X <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />

spart · July 22, 2002 6:33PM

Fear not, with all the slinging Apple is doing at MS they must have SOMETHING up their sleeves...I doubt MS is going to keep the Mac BU around for longer.

frank777 · July 22, 2002 7:05PM

Amen to that!

I've been waiting for a new AppleWorks for far too long.

Requested feature list: Cocoa through and through, New, more professional UI, Spell-As -You-Type, XML integration, easy integration with Address Book.

And if they really want to play hardball with MS: Windows and Linux versions. (these won't have the seamless integration, of course.)

Oh, and an arrival date of September 2002...

buonrotto · July 22, 2002 8:52PM

I'll beat everyone else to the punch and say that Cocoa is not inherently better than Carbon, and the end user should see no difference. Bad Carbon ports give it a bad reputation.

Anyway, I'm not sure we'll see another AppleWorks, at least not as we know it. I'd bet that we'll get a series of small apps that add up to approximately what AppleWorks provides, then some. But I think the stuff will trickle out, a bit under the nose of Microsoft.

torifile · July 22, 2002 8:55PM

[quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:

<strong>I'll beat everyone else to the punch and say that Cocoa is not inherently better than Carbon, and the end user should see no difference. Bad Carbon ports give it a bad reputation.

Anyway, I'm not sure we'll see another AppleWorks, at least not as we know it. I'd bet that we'll get a series of small apps that add up to approximately what AppleWorks provides, then some. But I think the stuff will trickle out, a bit under the nose of Microsoft.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Man, you beat me to it

Why do we care if it's cocoa or carbon? We shouldn't and probably wouldn't really be able to tell if the program is well-done. Enough with the "if it's cocoa, it's gotta be good" stuff. One more rumor to try to disspell.

rightnow 92 · July 22, 2002 11:00PM

[quote]<strong>Bad Carbon ports give it a bad reputation.</strong><hr></blockquote>

And AppleWorks is about the worst carbon app there is. It's unusable. I also have much to complain about Office X, or Office 97 or Office a decade ago since there's been no real improvements... but I'll spare you since it will do neither you nor me any good.

Yeah, if AppleWorks became usable and had almost as many features as Office, it'd do great. A lot of people would buy it just to not give any money to Microsoft, I think.

But also, it's not very Unix or recently Apple like. Unix apps and recent Apple apps (don't call them iApps, don't call them iApps and the i will just disappear...) all have one specific function. So they'll have to split it up into separate apps, pretty much like Microsoft. Hopefully Apple will release the word processor for free

frank777 · July 23, 2002 3:00AM

Okay, the Carbon vs. Cocoa issue has been done to death, so let's not refight old battles. A Carbon app can be coded every bit as good as a Cocoa app.

That said, isn't there a good reason a Word Processing app should be Cocoa?

Do Carbon apps now have the ability to call on Services? Isn't that where the Spell Checker, Thesaurus and other freeware enhancements are going to come from?

Also, <speculation follows> if Mac OS X does ever move to another processor, I think that Cocoa will move with it - I'm not sure about Carbon and Classic. And that's surely on the mind of Steven "I like to have options" Jobs.

iApps galore. Where art thou cocoa Appleworks?

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