Carracho and Hotline Servers

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in Mac Software edited January 2014
How do you USE them? I can't seem to find the "interface..." Carracho especially should be ashamed considering it's Mac only.



1) Where do you edit Accounts?



2) Where's the list of users (to ban, kick, message, etc.)



Maybe I'm stupid, but the Readme's don't seem to cover these topics. Neither did Google!



I'm really interested in making a Carracho Server. I'm going to college Maybe it will even become "The Official AppleInsider Carracho Server." I tried to find a thread there used to be about this but apparently it's gone. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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  • Reply 1 of 37
    snofsnof Posts: 98member
    After starting the server software, launch the client and log on to your server. Enter your computer's IP address, the login name is "admin" but leave the password blank. Once you are logged in you can administer it by choosing the administration option under your server in the connections menu.



    edit: The above instructions are what I remember, I think they're correct. It's somewhere on the Carracho website too.



    [ 08-09-2002: Message edited by: Snof ]</p>
  • Reply 2 of 37
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
  • Reply 3 of 37
    Aren't these solely for pirating software?



    calling jonathan...
  • Reply 4 of 37
    thuh freakthuh freak Posts: 2,664member
    [quote]Originally posted by blue2kdave:

    <strong>Aren't these solely for pirating software?



    calling jonathan...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    no. theres lots of pr0n too.



    but seriously, there are legit hl+carracho servers. i used to frequent a grateful dead archive, which had full concerts on mp3 (the gd are not opposed to others freely distributing their bootlegged music), they also had phish (which have similar mp3 policies). i used to go to a realbasic site too that had progs and tuts for RB (back when i watned to learn that). hl+carracho dont have to have illegal stuff on them.
  • Reply 5 of 37
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    There will never be an official AI hotline/carracho/DC server for legal reasons.
  • Reply 6 of 37
    giantgiant Posts: 6,041member
    [quote]Originally posted by blue2kdave:

    <strong>Aren't these solely for pirating software?



    calling jonathan...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    What the hell is wrong with you?



    They are for file sharing. We use ours for a variety of non-pirating purposes:



    .One of the guys is in Antarctica for a year and shares photos and music he is working on, as well as exs instruments he's made (some of them are recordings of harp seals while others are from his samples).



    .Sharing of audio files of our music.



    .exs instruments, samples and refills



    .Internet hard disk space to get files from one machine to the other.



    .Royalty free 3D models



    .ram link files to music videos we like



    and it goes on and on. There are many, many more uses for file sharing than just software, and don't be such an ignorant ass about it. It's morons like you that make it hard to do normal things on the internet when powerful copyright holders become invasive and obstuctive....
  • Reply 7 of 37
    pyr3pyr3 Posts: 946member
    [quote]Originally posted by groverat:

    <strong>There will never be an official AI hotline/carracho/DC server for legal reasons.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    What legal reasons? It would just be a chat room. Possbile host freely available software as a mirror or something. As for DC, you can turn the minimum share level into a maximum share level. Why would there be legal reasons against a hotline server? With a hotline server YOU control what is on the server, not the users. I can see your 'legal reasons' applying to DC, since in DC you can't control what the users are sharing, but hotline is like a beefed up ftp server for the most part.
  • Reply 8 of 37
    pyr3pyr3 Posts: 946member
    [quote]Originally posted by blue2kdave:

    <strong>Aren't these solely for pirating software?



    calling jonathan...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Nothing is "solely" for pirating software. That's the stupidest statement I have ever heard. It's like saying Michael Jordan's team will ALWAYS win EVERY game in the NBA.



    Hotline servers are just like FTP server except that they have news posts and a chat room on them. They take FTP to the next level, and let you communicate more freely with the other users logged in. So your statement would mean that FTP is used ONLY for pirating software and there isn't any legitimate purpose for it. That's like saying all semi trucks are the work of the devil because arms dealers transport weapons in them.
  • Reply 9 of 37
    I hav a hotline server exclusively for Japanese Animation. Only those that are not licensed in North America, and subtitled by fans. (They are legal by US Copyright laws to my understanding, since they are not distributed for profit and have no impact on companies' business here...)
  • Reply 10 of 37
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    py3 thank you... I've seen many Phish servers. Phish is great. Anime servers are everywhere now! My server will primarily be for Apple stuff and music (live stuff, like Phish, etc... and MP3 of silly singles I would never actually pay for, no qualms here) Other artwork and multimedia are welcome (good things making fun of M$ warrant special accounts or something! )



    I logged into the Carracho server, but since I didn't see anywhere in the Server to set up accounts I didn't know there were any accounts, let alone the default admin one. I should have guessed as much but the Readme's with the servers are still crap. So I will try logging in as Admin this evening. Also I realize now that having remote Administration is probably better since I can log in from anywhere. Thanks for the replies. I'm very new to being a server.
  • Reply 11 of 37
    tigerwoods99tigerwoods99 Posts: 2,633member
    If anyone teaches me how to use Carracho or Hotline, I will set a server up on my computer at college.
  • Reply 12 of 37
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    [quote]What legal reasons? It would just be a chat room. Possbile host freely available software as a mirror or something.<hr></blockquote>



    We have a <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/chat.html"; target="_blank">chat room</a> and a place to make posts. People can post links to things they legally offer for download.



    There is no reason for AI to host a Hotline server for legal files. It just muddies the water, people should make galleries of their work available online, and I think there is an idea floating around about perhaps setting up online galleries for AI members to show off their work (don't hold me or anyone else to it).



    There will be no official, AI-sanctioned P2P server.
  • Reply 13 of 37
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    [quote]online galleries for AI members to show off their work <hr></blockquote>



    Almost as good, I'll take what I can get That would be really cool groverat.
  • Reply 14 of 37
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    [quote]Originally posted by Aquatik:

    <strong>py3 thank you... I've seen many Phish servers. Phish is great. Anime servers are everywhere now! My server will primarily be for Apple stuff and music (live stuff, like Phish, etc... and MP3 of silly singles I would never actually pay for, no qualms here) Other artwork and multimedia are welcome (good things making fun of M$ warrant special accounts or something! )



    I logged into the Carracho server, but since I didn't see anywhere in the Server to set up accounts I didn't know there were any accounts, let alone the default admin one. I should have guessed as much but the Readme's with the servers are still crap. So I will try logging in as Admin this evening. Also I realize now that having remote Administration is probably better since I can log in from anywhere. Thanks for the replies. I'm very new to being a server.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Log into your server. Under "connections" go down to yours and then over to administration. Here is where you create account, give privileges, etc. You can also get to it by clicking on the name of your server in the floating connections bar.



    Administration for the server through the client program also allows you to have other admins. This way, you can share the administration duties on the server with others who you deem worthy. It makes things alot easier on you b/c chances are, you won't be connected and there all the time something needs to be done (and if you are, you need to get a life ). HTH.
  • Reply 15 of 37
    majormattmajormatt Posts: 1,077member
    My Warcraft II disk got a big scratch in it, and consequently it wont load. Either, I can hope the CD magically heals or...
  • Reply 16 of 37
    [quote]Originally posted by giant:

    <strong>



    What the hell is wrong with you?



    They are for file sharing. We use ours for a variety of non-pirating purposes:



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    While I am sure that there are uses for these services other than pirating, in my experience they are primarily used for the purpose of stealing software. I have watched as many other music studio owners downloaded every plug in known to man. Having paid for them myself, it is rather annoying. I have also seen too many other people with their cracked copies of every Adobe/Macromedia/etc product not to become jaded.



    I guess I should have not been so broad in my statement, but I don't think anyone would argue that these programs are used a great deal for warez.



    My comment to Jonathan was in response to being scolded recently for a question. I was accused of pirating some software and threatened. I just think that if AI is going to have zero-tolerance policy for piracy, the mods should consider limiting the discussion of these programs as well.
  • Reply 17 of 37
    pyr3pyr3 Posts: 946member
    [quote]Originally posted by groverat:

    <strong>



    We have a <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/chat.html"; target="_blank">chat room</a> and a place to make posts. People can post links to things they legally offer for download.



    There is no reason for AI to host a Hotline server for legal files. It just muddies the water, people should make galleries of their work available online, and I think there is an idea floating around about perhaps setting up online galleries for AI members to show off their work (don't hold me or anyone else to it).



    There will be no official, AI-sanctioned P2P server.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I didn't say that you needed to, I was just saying that that 'legal reasons' doesn't apply really. Unless you're thinking that someone wants you to support a warez server or something, but no one is stupid enough to openly do that. When I said legal files I meant things like files that are relevent to the forum. It's not a neccessity.
  • Reply 18 of 37
    pyr3pyr3 Posts: 946member
    [quote]Originally posted by blue2kdave:

    <strong>



    While I am sure that there are uses for these services other than pirating, in my experience they are primarily used for the purpose of stealing software. I have watched as many other music studio owners downloaded every plug in known to man. Having paid for them myself, it is rather annoying. I have also seen too many other people with their cracked copies of every Adobe/Macromedia/etc product not to become jaded.



    I guess I should have not been so broad in my statement, but I don't think anyone would argue that these programs are used a great deal for warez.



    My comment to Jonathan was in response to being scolded recently for a question. I was accused of pirating some software and threatened. I just think that if AI is going to have zero-tolerance policy for piracy, the mods should consider limiting the discussion of these programs as well.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    You should realize by not that the mods here are partial and in no way bipartisan. It's a fact of life that you have to deal with. A thread about "how often do you poo?" went up to 2 pages long, but a thread on "how often do you pee?" was locked after 3 posts. Go figure.



    (don't get pissed , that was an example ... not me bitching)
  • Reply 19 of 37
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    torifile thank you for your concise help. Blue2kDave, you're a good poster but your signature seems to have much different tone than your post... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
  • Reply 20 of 37
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    What is the 'tone' of that signature? I always thought that that quote is good because it reveals how Fascism is not such a simple tyrrany but has a strange supportive relationship to corporate power. . . it makes it understandable that it is something to watch out for even in a supposedly free-market environment.
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