Serioulsy, the Mac Pro is due an update. Especially its design.
It's good. But we're on Intel now. That's design has been with us 5 years now? It's nearly 2008 and that's sleeker and more sophisticated. In keeping with the new design points from the iMac.
Could well be the design for a mid-tower to go alongside the 'uber-station' Mac Pro line. Bung in a quad. A gtx Nividia. Game over.
I figured that may be a flaw. But I thought maybe there could a few millimetres of space around the glass in which air is drawn. Because its black, it wouldn't be noticable as a gap and could give the glass centre a floating appearance. The back would not be glass of course, but a mesh again.
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What, "No handles!" How do you get into the inside of one of these? Did you shrink the height any?
There are handles! Just not the conventionals ones... handles are created by insetting the front and back panels inwards an inch or two, leaving room to lift it by the aluminium ends.
As for getting into the inside, I thought it would be cool (but probably not practical) if the whole centre module (black bit) slid out from the aluminium casing, thereby allowing the casing to be one solid piece of metal. If not, a side panel could just come off similiar to the current mac pro (I couldn't be bothered modelling all the seams...)
I don't know if the height is shrunk - i didn't really pay attention to any particular dimensions - just went with what was looking good.
I figured that may be a flaw. But I thought maybe there could a few millimetres of space around the glass in which air is drawn.
As long as the back is open enough then a glass plate on the front would be ok I think. It would be able to circulate well enough like that - most PC towers have solid fronts.
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There are handles! Just not the conventionals ones... handles are created by insetting the front and back panels inwards an inch or two, leaving room to lift it by the aluminium ends.
They'd have to make the machine much lighter though. The Mac Pro weighs 44lbs/20kg and there's no way I want my hands slipping off the edge so it can fall on my foot.
I think Apple really need to aim to set a maximum 10kg upper limit on all their products - the 24" iMac even goes above this at 11.5kg. Honestly, if they made the Mac Pro smaller, I don't think we'd see as many complaints about a lack of a mid-range desktop. The sheer bulk of the Mac Pro is a bigger turn off to me than price. The price should come down as the processors do. Breaking below the £1000 barrier would be enough to do it - that only means shaving off £400 somewhere. If that compromises the Mac Pro in some way then there will have to be a separate product.
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Originally Posted by Phizz
I don't know if the height is shrunk - i didn't really pay attention to any particular dimensions - just went with what was looking good.
Aim for 2/3 the size of the current Mac Pro at the absolute most.
It needs a lot more ventilation that that. Unless you want the thing sounding like and aircraft carrier you need to really think about crating some clever ventilation. The current MacPro cases do a pretty good job and even with multiple GPUs they are significantly quieter than a standard PC chassis. Apple has done a good job of segregating and compartmentalizing their current chassis to allow efficient air flow around key components. You need to allow through-flow to create efficient cooling. Just blowing hot air out the back with a fan will cause that same hot air to be sucked back in again. Macs need to be quiet as well as pretty.
It needs a lot more ventilation that that. Unless you want the thing sounding like and aircraft carrier you need to really think about crating some clever ventilation. The current MacPro cases do a pretty good job and even with multiple GPUs they are significantly quieter than a standard PC chassis. Apple has done a good job of segregating and compartmentalizing their current chassis to allow efficient air flow around key components. You need to allow through-flow to create efficient cooling. Just blowing hot air out the back with a fan will cause that same hot air to be sucked back in again. Macs need to be quiet as well as pretty.
Does anybody know if it is possible to recreate the G5s/Mac Pros cheese grater fascia in glass? A gloss black glass cheese grater would look cool...
since he doesn't show the top or bottom you could add vents there. Top is often problematic but a inset slot like the glass (it would look like a rectangular piece of aluminum floating on the top with the air slot surrounding it) with a filter might not look too bad. Coupled with the space between the glass you might get enough intake flow.
The downside is that sometimes I stick stuff on top of the Mac Pro...
As long as the back is open enough then a glass plate on the front would be ok I think. It would be able to circulate well enough like that - most PC towers have solid fronts.
They'd have to make the machine much lighter though. The Mac Pro weighs 44lbs/20kg and there's no way I want my hands slipping off the edge so it can fall on my foot.
I think Apple really need to aim to set a maximum 10kg upper limit on all their products - the 24" iMac even goes above this at 11.5kg. Honestly, if they made the Mac Pro smaller, I don't think we'd see as many complaints about a lack of a mid-range desktop. The sheer bulk of the Mac Pro is a bigger turn off to me than price. The price should come down as the processors do. Breaking below the £1000 barrier would be enough to do it - that only means shaving off £400 somewhere. If that compromises the Mac Pro in some way then there will have to be a separate product.
Aim for 2/3 the size of the current Mac Pro at the absolute most.
For a quiet system you want cross-air flow. The glass would work if it was CNC milled with very tiny pin holes. That wouldn't raise the cost or nothing!
But seriously, if they could create a sheath that was designed to capture all the particles in the air on the front side and then be removable and cleanable, then slid back into place, I'd be much appreciated. Consider it HEPA-friendly.
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Wow. Looks good!
Begins Masturbating...
Lemon Bon Bon.
It's good. But we're on Intel now. That's design has been with us 5 years now? It's nearly 2008 and that's sleeker and more sophisticated. In keeping with the new design points from the iMac.
Could well be the design for a mid-tower to go alongside the 'uber-station' Mac Pro line. Bung in a quad. A gtx Nividia. Game over.
Now.
Can I have me a 'Studio display' to go with that?
Lemon Bon Bon.
Yeah cause glass has such great ventilation . But seriously, where the f**k are the new updated Displays?
Well, glass is on the the new iMac...
...and the displays? Scratches head.
Lemon Bon Bon.
How do you get into the inside of one of these?
Did you shrink the height any?
Yeah cause glass has such great ventilation
I figured that may be a flaw. But I thought maybe there could a few millimetres of space around the glass in which air is drawn. Because its black, it wouldn't be noticable as a gap and could give the glass centre a floating appearance. The back would not be glass of course, but a mesh again.
What, "No handles!" How do you get into the inside of one of these? Did you shrink the height any?
There are handles! Just not the conventionals ones... handles are created by insetting the front and back panels inwards an inch or two, leaving room to lift it by the aluminium ends.
As for getting into the inside, I thought it would be cool (but probably not practical) if the whole centre module (black bit) slid out from the aluminium casing, thereby allowing the casing to be one solid piece of metal. If not, a side panel could just come off similiar to the current mac pro (I couldn't be bothered modelling all the seams...)
I don't know if the height is shrunk - i didn't really pay attention to any particular dimensions - just went with what was looking good.
I figured that may be a flaw. But I thought maybe there could a few millimetres of space around the glass in which air is drawn.
As long as the back is open enough then a glass plate on the front would be ok I think. It would be able to circulate well enough like that - most PC towers have solid fronts.
There are handles! Just not the conventionals ones... handles are created by insetting the front and back panels inwards an inch or two, leaving room to lift it by the aluminium ends.
They'd have to make the machine much lighter though. The Mac Pro weighs 44lbs/20kg and there's no way I want my hands slipping off the edge so it can fall on my foot.
I think Apple really need to aim to set a maximum 10kg upper limit on all their products - the 24" iMac even goes above this at 11.5kg. Honestly, if they made the Mac Pro smaller, I don't think we'd see as many complaints about a lack of a mid-range desktop. The sheer bulk of the Mac Pro is a bigger turn off to me than price. The price should come down as the processors do. Breaking below the £1000 barrier would be enough to do it - that only means shaving off £400 somewhere. If that compromises the Mac Pro in some way then there will have to be a separate product.
I don't know if the height is shrunk - i didn't really pay attention to any particular dimensions - just went with what was looking good.
Aim for 2/3 the size of the current Mac Pro at the absolute most.
Its just a little too generic looking. Like the mini.
It needs a lot more ventilation that that. Unless you want the thing sounding like and aircraft carrier you need to really think about crating some clever ventilation. The current MacPro cases do a pretty good job and even with multiple GPUs they are significantly quieter than a standard PC chassis. Apple has done a good job of segregating and compartmentalizing their current chassis to allow efficient air flow around key components. You need to allow through-flow to create efficient cooling. Just blowing hot air out the back with a fan will cause that same hot air to be sucked back in again. Macs need to be quiet as well as pretty.
Does anybody know if it is possible to recreate the G5s/Mac Pros cheese grater fascia in glass? A gloss black glass cheese grater would look cool...
Does anybody know if it is possible to recreate the G5s/Mac Pros cheese grater fascia in glass? A gloss black glass cheese grater would look cool...
Physically you could, but by doing so you would severely weaken the structural integrity of the glass.
The downside is that sometimes I stick stuff on top of the Mac Pro...
Physically you could, but by doing so you would severely weaken the structural integrity of the glass.
Not if the glass were maintained in a molten state.
Not if the glass were maintained in a molten state.
I thought glass was still in a liquid state and still flowing down because of gravity!
As long as the back is open enough then a glass plate on the front would be ok I think. It would be able to circulate well enough like that - most PC towers have solid fronts.
They'd have to make the machine much lighter though. The Mac Pro weighs 44lbs/20kg and there's no way I want my hands slipping off the edge so it can fall on my foot.
I think Apple really need to aim to set a maximum 10kg upper limit on all their products - the 24" iMac even goes above this at 11.5kg. Honestly, if they made the Mac Pro smaller, I don't think we'd see as many complaints about a lack of a mid-range desktop. The sheer bulk of the Mac Pro is a bigger turn off to me than price. The price should come down as the processors do. Breaking below the £1000 barrier would be enough to do it - that only means shaving off £400 somewhere. If that compromises the Mac Pro in some way then there will have to be a separate product.
Aim for 2/3 the size of the current Mac Pro at the absolute most.
For a quiet system you want cross-air flow. The glass would work if it was CNC milled with very tiny pin holes. That wouldn't raise the cost or nothing!
But seriously, if they could create a sheath that was designed to capture all the particles in the air on the front side and then be removable and cleanable, then slid back into place, I'd be much appreciated. Consider it HEPA-friendly.
Honestly, if they made the Mac Pro smaller, I don't think we'd see as many complaints about a lack of a mid-range desktop.
Yes we most certainly would. I have a monitor. Why should I buy a new one? I'm glad Apple makes such a great all-in-one, but the iMac isn't for me.
Yes we most certainly would. I have a monitor. Why should I buy a new one? I'm glad Apple makes such a great all-in-one, but the iMac isn't for me.
Uh, he said "Mac Pro" not iMac. You wouldn't need to buy a new monitor if the Mac Pro were smaller. . . .