That's troubling. Expect to see some 3rd party battery attachments that clips into the Magsafe and stays in place somehow. I can totally see that happening.
I wonder if you open the bottom case up if you can swap out the battery if it goes bad. I'm sure it wond me too difficult.
All this means to me is that AppleCare is an absolute must - but I'd say that goes for all of Apple's portables. Hopefully the battery won't fall down to 40 minutes charge (or less) in 2 years as has been my experience with all of Apple's previous portables... and if it does they fix it under warranty. Regardless we will see companies like Griffin et al. come out with 3rd party battery 'backpacks' for the Air.
All this means to me is that AppleCare is an absolute must - but I'd say that goes for all of Apple's portables. Hopefully the battery won't fall down to 40 minutes charge (or less) in 2 years as has been my experience with all of Apple's previous portables... and if it does they fix it under warranty. Regardless we will see companies like Griffin et al. come out with 3rd party battery 'backpacks' for the Air.
that would be silly. if you need a removable battery, this isn't the laptop for you. what's the point of your 'thin' if you slap another inch on it? all you have is a disfigured, feature-poor macbook pro. very silly. (you being someone in general, not specifically you, this isn't a personal attack).
that would be silly. if you need a removable battery, this isn't the laptop for you. what's the point of your 'thin' if you slap another inch on it? all you have is a disfigured, feature-poor macbook pro. very silly. (you being someone in general, not specifically you, this isn't a personal attack).
So you're saying all other small notebooks have integrated batteries then?
It isn't like I was going to buy the MBA anyway, but with a laptop battery I can't replace?!? I don't think so.
So you're saying all other small notebooks have integrated batteries then?
It isn't like I was going to buy the MBA anyway, but with a laptop battery I can't replace?!? I don't think so.
no, i think really what i'm getting at is there is a tradeoff of form and function. it looks better this way, so they ripped out some important things...which is the apple way.
this thing screams for a dock... but without at minimum an expresscard slot...no dock possible. Not even the iMac dock that was patented.
it looks good but isn't for the power user. this is for the person who values the 'cool' factor.
that would be silly. if you need a removable battery, this isn't the laptop for you. what's the point of your 'thin' if you slap another inch on it? all you have is a disfigured, feature-poor macbook pro. very silly. (you being someone in general, not specifically you, this isn't a personal attack).
No offense taken.
The vast majority of the time you'll be using it without a battery backpack - but for those that absolutely need multiple batteries to swap in and out during long sessions in the field - there will be a solution. That's all I was saying.
How many people buy a second laptop battery, really?
I think the better question is, how many people need to replace their battery after a couple of years due to heavy battery usage. Right now I can replace my battery for $129 and 20 minutes driving to the Apple store.
With the MBA, I have to pay to ship my laptop to Apple, and pay for a replacement battery operation (battery plus labor costs) as well as pay for return shipping. So I'm paying for 2 way shipping plus repair labor. Also, it's going to take much longer than the 20 minutes it would take me to drive to an Apple store.
The integrated battery on the air doesn't bother me at all. The only reason I'm not getting one at this time is that the SSD flash drive technology is still too expensive with not enough HD size for my needs.
Otherwise, its a winner in my book. With my old ibook which had even less battery life than the airbooks 5 hours, I NEVER carried an extra battery around with me....just my adapter. So I don't know what all the hullabaloo is concerning the integrated battery. Its what makes Apple able to make it so thin.
The integrated battery on the air doesn't bother me at all. The only reason I'm not getting one at this time is that the SSD flash drive technology is still too expensive with not enough HD size for my needs.
Otherwise, its a winner in my book. With my old ibook which had even less battery life than the airbooks 5 hours, I NEVER carried an extra battery around with me....just my adapter. So I don't know what all the hullabaloo is concerning the integrated battery. Its what makes Apple able to make it so thin.
I can be without my ipod for a week or whatever it would take to replace the battery. But not my laptop that I live with and travel with daily/weekly. To not be able to purchase a 2nd battery (I am one of *those* that does ), or to be able to just buy a replacement when your current one is exhibiting problems, or JUST TO BE ABLE TO PULL IT WHEN YOU ARE HAVING COMPUTER PROBLEMS to repower the machine - downright weird. and unnecessary. Same goes for HDD options. Why they didnt at least offer larger HDD's as options is beyond me.
I travel alot too. And I never carried an extra battery with me. I always knew when my battery was running low, and always managed to find a starbucks or place where I could duck into and plug in.
If Apple had made a removable battery, they'd have had too create space for a housing for the battery and that would have made it thicker and ruined what they were going for.
Anyway...this is par for the course with any Apple release. People always have something to say.
Heck...I'm in the market for a new laptop, and although I think the airbook is sweeeeet....the macbook suits my needs better right now....so I'll get that. I'm not pissed at Apple for the airbook not being right for me(i need bigger HD). I think its cool what they've done, and will revisit the airbook in a couple of years when flash drives are bigger and cheaper.
Until then, a brand new black macbook is gonna be fine. :-)
Well i guess the "news" is all hyperbole now anyway so why not join the party?
Here's how I figure it...
The people who buy this laptop are willing to pay a huge amount of money to not be troubled by carry something larger and heavier. If they were to carry around extra batteries, why not just carry around a bigger computer? (which has a replaceable battery)
Granted, there will be subset of this niche market that wants extra batteries. Unfortunately for them, the product wasn't designed for them.
Everyone has one pet specification that they wished was better. Some people are denouncing the lack of usb ports. Others are bemoaning the lack of ethernet. And then there is the lack of optical drive and the undersized hard drive. Each of these things could be "fixed" with only a slightly larger form factor. But at that point, it'd be just like the products they already have.
No multiple battery swapping on long trips, and once that battery goes bye-bye, so does the computer (for 70% of people.)
- Xidius
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Originally Posted by Outsider
That's troubling. Expect to see some 3rd party battery attachments that clips into the Magsafe and stays in place somehow. I can totally see that happening.
I wonder if you open the bottom case up if you can swap out the battery if it goes bad. I'm sure it wond me too difficult.
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Originally Posted by FuturePastNow
How many people buy a second laptop battery, really?
Exactly not many! And 5hrs bat life that plenty time for people to find a power socket. Lets see there are sockets in airplanes, trains, cafes, restaurants lets just say you wont find it hard to charge up!
Plus without the removable battery apple can make the laptop thinner.
AND what would be the point of people carrying the thinnest laptop in the world then carrying a multitude of batteries to weigh them down.
I'd rather have my battery replaced by an official apple authorized provider than risk buying an immitation battery and installing it myself, it can be very hard to tell the difference, plus for the average price of a battery they install it for free.
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No multiple battery swapping on long trips, and once that battery goes bye-bye, so does the computer (for 70% of people.)
- Xidius
I wonder if you open the bottom case up if you can swap out the battery if it goes bad. I'm sure it wond me too difficult.
All this means to me is that AppleCare is an absolute must - but I'd say that goes for all of Apple's portables. Hopefully the battery won't fall down to 40 minutes charge (or less) in 2 years as has been my experience with all of Apple's previous portables... and if it does they fix it under warranty. Regardless we will see companies like Griffin et al. come out with 3rd party battery 'backpacks' for the Air.
that would be silly. if you need a removable battery, this isn't the laptop for you. what's the point of your 'thin' if you slap another inch on it? all you have is a disfigured, feature-poor macbook pro. very silly. (you being someone in general, not specifically you, this isn't a personal attack).
that would be silly. if you need a removable battery, this isn't the laptop for you. what's the point of your 'thin' if you slap another inch on it? all you have is a disfigured, feature-poor macbook pro. very silly. (you being someone in general, not specifically you, this isn't a personal attack).
So you're saying all other small notebooks have integrated batteries then?
It isn't like I was going to buy the MBA anyway, but with a laptop battery I can't replace?!? I don't think so.
So you're saying all other small notebooks have integrated batteries then?
It isn't like I was going to buy the MBA anyway, but with a laptop battery I can't replace?!? I don't think so.
no, i think really what i'm getting at is there is a tradeoff of form and function. it looks better this way, so they ripped out some important things...which is the apple way.
this thing screams for a dock... but without at minimum an expresscard slot...no dock possible. Not even the iMac dock that was patented.
it looks good but isn't for the power user. this is for the person who values the 'cool' factor.
that would be silly. if you need a removable battery, this isn't the laptop for you. what's the point of your 'thin' if you slap another inch on it? all you have is a disfigured, feature-poor macbook pro. very silly. (you being someone in general, not specifically you, this isn't a personal attack).
No offense taken.
The vast majority of the time you'll be using it without a battery backpack - but for those that absolutely need multiple batteries to swap in and out during long sessions in the field - there will be a solution. That's all I was saying.
How many people buy a second laptop battery, really?
Not many, but frequently, a laptop battery needs to be replaced after a couple of years.
How many people buy a second laptop battery, really?
I think the better question is, how many people need to replace their battery after a couple of years due to heavy battery usage. Right now I can replace my battery for $129 and 20 minutes driving to the Apple store.
With the MBA, I have to pay to ship my laptop to Apple, and pay for a replacement battery operation (battery plus labor costs) as well as pay for return shipping. So I'm paying for 2 way shipping plus repair labor. Also, it's going to take much longer than the 20 minutes it would take me to drive to an Apple store.
Thats what everyone said about the ipod too.
The integrated battery on the air doesn't bother me at all. The only reason I'm not getting one at this time is that the SSD flash drive technology is still too expensive with not enough HD size for my needs.
Otherwise, its a winner in my book. With my old ibook which had even less battery life than the airbooks 5 hours, I NEVER carried an extra battery around with me....just my adapter. So I don't know what all the hullabaloo is concerning the integrated battery. Its what makes Apple able to make it so thin.
What are you talking about "fail"?
Thats what everyone said about the ipod too.
The integrated battery on the air doesn't bother me at all. The only reason I'm not getting one at this time is that the SSD flash drive technology is still too expensive with not enough HD size for my needs.
Otherwise, its a winner in my book. With my old ibook which had even less battery life than the airbooks 5 hours, I NEVER carried an extra battery around with me....just my adapter. So I don't know what all the hullabaloo is concerning the integrated battery. Its what makes Apple able to make it so thin.
I can be without my ipod for a week or whatever it would take to replace the battery. But not my laptop that I live with and travel with daily/weekly. To not be able to purchase a 2nd battery (I am one of *those* that does ), or to be able to just buy a replacement when your current one is exhibiting problems, or JUST TO BE ABLE TO PULL IT WHEN YOU ARE HAVING COMPUTER PROBLEMS to repower the machine - downright weird. and unnecessary. Same goes for HDD options. Why they didnt at least offer larger HDD's as options is beyond me.
If Apple had made a removable battery, they'd have had too create space for a housing for the battery and that would have made it thicker and ruined what they were going for.
Anyway...this is par for the course with any Apple release. People always have something to say.
Heck...I'm in the market for a new laptop, and although I think the airbook is sweeeeet....the macbook suits my needs better right now....so I'll get that. I'm not pissed at Apple for the airbook not being right for me(i need bigger HD). I think its cool what they've done, and will revisit the airbook in a couple of years when flash drives are bigger and cheaper.
Until then, a brand new black macbook is gonna be fine. :-)
Well i guess the "news" is all hyperbole now anyway so why not join the party?
Here's how I figure it...
The people who buy this laptop are willing to pay a huge amount of money to not be troubled by carry something larger and heavier. If they were to carry around extra batteries, why not just carry around a bigger computer? (which has a replaceable battery)
Granted, there will be subset of this niche market that wants extra batteries. Unfortunately for them, the product wasn't designed for them.
Everyone has one pet specification that they wished was better. Some people are denouncing the lack of usb ports. Others are bemoaning the lack of ethernet. And then there is the lack of optical drive and the undersized hard drive. Each of these things could be "fixed" with only a slightly larger form factor. But at that point, it'd be just like the products they already have.
In other words:
No multiple battery swapping on long trips, and once that battery goes bye-bye, so does the computer (for 70% of people.)
- Xidius
That's troubling. Expect to see some 3rd party battery attachments that clips into the Magsafe and stays in place somehow. I can totally see that happening.
I wonder if you open the bottom case up if you can swap out the battery if it goes bad. I'm sure it wond me too difficult.
How many people buy a second laptop battery, really?
Exactly not many! And 5hrs bat life that plenty time for people to find a power socket. Lets see there are sockets in airplanes, trains, cafes, restaurants lets just say you wont find it hard to charge up!
Plus without the removable battery apple can make the laptop thinner.
AND what would be the point of people carrying the thinnest laptop in the world then carrying a multitude of batteries to weigh them down.
That's actually 3 personal attacks. And that's not permitted here. -JL
People are blowing this internal battery issue way out of proportion.