A call for a 30" iMac

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
G'day from Oz



I've got a 24" Aluminium iMac (that's the way the rest of the none USA world spells and pronounces 'aluminum'), but wish I could get more screen real estate, without adding a second monitor.



The amount of photoshop and iMovie work I do doesn't warrant splurging on a mac pro and 30" monitor, especially at the high markup Apple Australia have on their goods.



I'd like to determine the desire for a larger screened iMac, hence this post. I think they'll come about sooner or later, but would rather sooner.



Anybody else think the same way?



Regards



Santa
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  • Reply 1 of 35
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,423member
    As the price for 30" models comes down I think it'll be on option. When Apple can deliver a decently spec'd 30" iMac for 2499 they'll likely do it.



    More screen real estate is never a bad idea and frankly a 30" iMac doubles for a nice HDTV set as well. One can amortize the cost in many ways.
  • Reply 2 of 35
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post


    More screen real estate is never a bad idea and frankly a 30" iMac doubles for a nice HDTV set as well.



    Great point. I think this is the direction things might move.



    I'd love to see Apple go up to a 37" all-in-one, provided with a GPU that would pump out 1080p effortlessly. This might entail some modification to the width of the machine, but such an approach would lock-in Apple's quest for simultaneous entertainment delivery and computing heft.
  • Reply 3 of 35
    LCDs get cheaper and bigger... wait for it...



    As for Aluminum, nobody would know a thing about it if it weren't commercialized by a bunch of enterprising Americans. We're good at that commercializing business.
  • Reply 4 of 35
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sybaritic View Post


    I'd love to see Apple go up to a 37" all-in-one, provided with a GPU that would pump out 1080p effortlessly.



    There is a problem here: it is years now that Apple uses even in portables GPU's capable to do DVD decoding or even high definition video decoding on hardware (for example the X1600). But it never made use of this functionality. With the exception of some G3 models, where DVD decoding took place in specialised hardware, Apple relied always on the CPU for such tasks. Same situation today with high definition and there is no indication that this will change soon.
  • Reply 5 of 35
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Splinemodel View Post


    As for Aluminum, nobody would know a thing about it if it weren't commercialized by a bunch of enterprising Americans. We're good at that commercializing business.



    Yes, but the alumin(i)um was known in Europe before large scale commercialisation from american companies. But anyway, I always thought that it is written as "aluminium" and not "aluminum" until I saw somewhere that it is more the latter than the former, so I used it thinking it is more correct. So, is this again the british vs. american version fight?
  • Reply 6 of 35
    I see a 30 inch. Quad core. GT GPU flavoured iMac as a real possibility come the Summer.



    With the Quad laptop cpu...a GT or die shrunk next gen Ati card come the Summer and with continual fall of LCD prices...



    Why not?



    I personally think Apple could do one now? It doesn't cost them £1100 for a 30 inch screen. Stick a GT and a Quad Conroe in now?



    You could still sell it at a premium.



    I would jump at this baby.



    Big time. Wet dream ville.



    Lemon Bon Bon.
  • Reply 7 of 35
    ...and include a goddamn TV tuner. There's yer real 'Apple TV.'



    Lemon Bon Bon.
  • Reply 8 of 35
    Hm. Dreams of 30 inches of iMac heaven...with a decent gpu of course...



    Lemon Bon Bon.
  • Reply 9 of 35
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Will you be able to change the hard drive in this mythical 30" iMac?

    Because the current iMacs are useless because of the lack of ability to access the hard drive.



    No small or medium business with a brain will use a Mac to process credit cards or keep track of sensitive project or accounting information, and then take the machine to an Apple Store and hand it over the counter to some unnamed Apple peon.
  • Reply 10 of 35
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,318moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Santa View Post


    but wish I could get more screen real estate, without adding a second monitor.



    The amount of photoshop and iMovie work I do doesn't warrant splurging on a mac pro and 30" monitor, especially at the high markup Apple Australia have on their goods.



    If only there was a product that wasn't as expensive as a Mac Pro but still allowed you to use your own choice of display. I can't even think what you'd call such a fanciful device. Suffice to say a *lot* of people come here asking for one.



    It seems like such an obvious product to make as it could satisfy so many needs and yet there doesn't seem to be one.



    The Mac Pro is the only real solution Apple provides but Australia is quite bad for pricing on those.



    I don't think a 30" iMac is the answer because then people will ask where is the 50" iMac as they already have a 50" HDTV and want to use one display for both TV and computer stuff. Everybody including Apple knows what the perfect answer is but clearly someone wants consumers to keep having problems.
  • Reply 11 of 35
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Hey Santa!
  • Reply 12 of 35
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Santa View Post


    G'day from Oz



    I've got a 24" Aluminium iMac (that's the way the rest of the none USA world spells and pronounces 'aluminum'), but wish I could get more screen real estate, without adding a second monitor.



    Do you use Spaces? I have 4 monitors in front of me at all times.
  • Reply 13 of 35
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon. View Post


    I see a 30 inch. Quad core. GT GPU flavoured iMac as a real possibility come the Summer.



    A quad core mobile CPU will most certainly fit the 24" model. I expect this near the end of the current year or the beginning of the next one.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon. View Post


    With the Quad laptop cpu...a GT or die shrunk next gen Ati card come the Summer and with continual fall of LCD prices...



    Why not?



    Because the 30" displays are still too expensive?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon. View Post


    I personally think Apple could do one now? It doesn't cost them £1100 for a 30 inch screen. Stick a GT and a Quad Conroe in now?



    Yes, it could do it. But with the current prices such a machine would reach or exceed the $2500. It would be nice if someone has the prices of the 20" and 24" displays when the corresponding iMac models were introduced.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon. View Post


    Big time. Wet dream ville.



    Lemon Bon Bon.



  • Reply 14 of 35
    santasanta Posts: 67member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    Do you use Spaces? I have 4 monitors in front of me at all times.



    G'day Ireland.



    Yeah, I use 4 spaces screens as well, but my main screen could do with more real estate than 24" offers. I have Messenger, Skype and iChat windows running down the left side that get a lot of use, and family members seem to have the habit of trying to contact me while I'm working in photoshop or iMovie. I like to keep conversations/video chats running while I'm still working, so like everything in one space. I run out of room for menus real quick.



    Mind you, 24" is way better than my old 17" CRT



    30" would, I think, be ideal. Use the equivalent of a 20" screen for the main window, and the rest for menus etc.



    As well, we often use my Mac to watch home movies clips and DVD's in my study, so a larger screen would offer even better viewing (and I like Lemon bon bon's suggestion of a built in TV tuner).



    I have space 2 dedicated to XP under VMware (very rarely used).



    Regards



    Santa
  • Reply 15 of 35
    mcarlingmcarling Posts: 1,106member
    I suspect we are more likely to see a 24" iMac with 2560x1600 once Resolution Independence finally ships than a 30" iMac.
  • Reply 16 of 35
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,423member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mcarling View Post


    I suspect we are more likely to see a 24" iMac with 2560x1600 once Resolution Independence finally ships than a 30" iMac.



    But what's the benefit to consumers? They immediately understand the benefit of a larger screen. Having a high rez monitor but smaller screen is a harder sell. Sure the higher rez will make huge photographs look good but if given parity pricing between a hi rez 24" and a HD 30" I think Apple would be smart to go with the larger size.
  • Reply 17 of 35
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon. View Post


    ...and include a goddamn TV tuner. There's yer real 'Apple TV.'



    Lemon Bon Bon.







    And for god's sake, include a controller so we can get video IN not just out Then even the 24" would make a perfect small room media-center
  • Reply 18 of 35
    backtomacbacktomac Posts: 4,579member
    I've said all this before.



    I think the iMac will morph into a media center pc.



    The thing that's missing,IMO, is a specialized user interface and a multi touch remote.
  • Reply 19 of 35
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by backtomac View Post


    I've said all this before.



    I think the iMac will morph into a media center pc.



    The thing that's missing,IMO, is a specialized user interface and a multi touch remote.



    I think you're wrong (in a way). Despite what some think I still believe the computer (in general) is not meant to be a TV or media centre for the simple reason that they are different. I furthermore think Apple looks at the TV and computer - iMac in this case - as two totally different things. Apple introduced front row yeah, but lately what were are seeing is even more of a separation from iMac and TV. Rather than making the iMac into a full-blown media centre I think Apple intends to get into the TV business. They want to sell people two separate products that both excel at what they do, and both will excel precisely because they will fit their own purpose. From the ground up these two things (TV & computer) will be different, internally, visually, but most of all through user interface.



    In essence iMac = computer (i.e. for communication, work and making media)

    TV = TV (i.e. the medium to experience media)
  • Reply 20 of 35
    webmailwebmail Posts: 639member
    30" display is best when driven with a heavy duty video card. The iMac could have a hotter card, and a more expensive one. However it won't. The iMac is a consumer machine. If you need a 30" version it's kind of a hint from Apple that it's not the right machine for you. Not till LCD panel prices drop a hell of a lot.



    I use my 30" display on my laptop with 512mb video, and that's still not enough. I just got the 8800? (i didn't order it), it's that new super fast one... Ordered and it should be here soon to put in my tower, so I can continue to drive x-plane at a super high resolution.
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