Chimera is dying. I feel like crying..

zmench · January 20, 2003 1:32PM

<a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=51330&cid=0&pid=0&startat=&thresho ld=1&mode=nested&commentsort=0&op=Change" target="_blank">slashdot article link</a>

I love this browser. I hope that at least it makes it to its v1.0 birthday.

[insert tearful emoticon here]

[ 01-20-2003: Message edited by: Brad ]

ghost_user_name · January 20, 2003 1:46PM

I fixed your link. Though, it only pointed to the comments. The original post is <a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/20/1538201&tid=95"; target="_blank">here</a>.

This doesn't sadden me at all. People that want to write something like Chimera can make just as good a browser (it not better) by using WebCore.

Remember, folks: competition is a good thing. It drives the development of better apps.

cybermonkey · January 20, 2003 1:54PM

chimera is far from dead.

its an open source browser which means anyone who wants to develop can so. Since it has a large user base i dont think it wouldnt take long before some-one took it on. even if just a couple of people dropped the develpoment of it there would 10 more people willing to jump on the bandwagon.

buonrotto · January 20, 2003 2:01PM

Why would stopping development be the "conclusion" of these developers? Omni understands how it affects it market and doesn't seem too troubled by Safari, and they make a living off this stuff. They volunteer their time to make this browser, how would Safari affect this avocation? Does that mean open-source can't compete in a free enterprise market?

kelib · January 20, 2003 3:07PM

Won't miss it, hardly ever used it. Used Mozilla before Safari. I'm just sick and tired of incompatible browsers. Hopefully Safari development will be speedy so we at long last have adequate browser on the Mac.

zmench · January 20, 2003 4:46PM

[quote]Originally posted by Brad:

I fixed your link. Though, it only pointed to the comments. The original post is <a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/20/1538201&tid=95"; target="_blank">here</a>.

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Thanks Brad.

Perhaps a DONATION system can be set up, and all of us who want the development to continue could contribute little cash. I'd pay $5 for Chimera development to continue. 1,000,000/2 x $5 = Enough $$$$ to reach v.1.0?

Oh, what a shity day. Damn you Apple!

mrmister · January 20, 2003 8:07PM

This is not a money issue--it's open-source software. Money ain't gonna help, unless you are a giant corporation willing to take Chimera under its wing.

Frankly there is nothing to damn Apple about. I love Chimera, but Pinkerton is being a wuss and he knows it. Hopefully he will snap out of it after this passes and do his job, OR he'll leave the project and hopefully someone inspired will take over. Time will tell.

kim kap sol · January 20, 2003 9:22PM

[quote]Originally posted by zMench:

Damn you Apple!<hr></blockquote>

No...damn *you*!

zmench · January 20, 2003 10:28PM

[quote]Originally posted by kim kap sol:



No...damn *you*!<hr></blockquote>

LOL

Ok. A little itzy bitzy bitty of an over reaction.. Let?s not damn anyone, just yet.

aquatic · January 20, 2003 10:57PM

Chimera is dead. Face it.

When Safari gets Chimera's features why use Chimera? It just doesn't have the muscle behind it that Safari does. Safari will eclipse it in a matter of months and we'll all forget about it. Bye.

Chimera's only virtue is fast updates, but then, nightlies are buggy. Bye Chimera.

bunge · January 20, 2003 10:58PM

Chimera is awesome and I think it'll survive. The whole Mozilla project is going to take an immediate setback because of this, but it's for the positive. It's too big and bloated, but it still has the potential to be a universal operating system.

Chimera will continue to benefit from that progress.

chucker · January 21, 2003 12:09AM

[quote]Originally posted by Brad:

People that want to write something like Chimera can make just as good a browser (it not better) by using WebCore.<hr></blockquote>

KHTML isn't nearly as good as Gecko, although it may get there in a while.

tommy_thompson · January 21, 2003 3:21AM

I really hope that Chimera keeps on going and keeps inspiring more and better features for itself and to inspire other browsers to keep up. I have used chimera from early on. It was and IS the fastest thing out there. I also use Chimera booster, so this may affect my judgement, but still whoops Safari for now. It has more features, can handle plug-ins better does tabs, etc. I have only had Chimera go down once...and have used it for quite sometime, Safari on the other hand, has quit on me several times. There are sites that Safari cannot handle still. I do agree that now that Apple has Safari, that it will quickly acquire new features...but we all have Chimera to thank. I still use Chimera as my primary browser..and BEG those who develop this to PLEASE NOT DISCONTINUE CHIMERA! Variety is the spice of life..and Chimera is the spice that ALL of us Mac users needed to get our web browsing FASTER. Again, PLEASE KEEP DEVELOPING CHIMERA!

(Remember, before Chimera the only choices we really had were: Internet Exploder (Internet Explorer), Nutscrape (Netscape), iHad (iCab) and finally Omnibus (Omniweb) all of which had and still have marginal performance. Omnibus (Omniweb) had the best performance of the lot, but still left ALOT to be desired. Chimera has given the browser wars a kick in the dumper.)

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stupider...likeafox · January 21, 2003 6:10AM

[quote]Originally posted by Brad:



People that want to write something like Chimera can make just as good a browser (it not better) by using WebCore.



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[quote]Originally posted by Chucker:



KHTML isn't nearly as good as Gecko, although it may get there in a while.



<hr></blockquote>

I think Brad's point was that building a Cocoa browser (or any kind web app) from Apple supplied components will be much easier than with the Mozilla components.

In other words building a better browser (whatever that means to the individual developer/user), not a better rendering component.

chucker · January 21, 2003 8:41AM

[quote]Originally posted by stupider...likeafox:

I think Brad's point was that building a Cocoa browser (or any kind web app) from Apple supplied components will be much easier than with the Mozilla components.<hr></blockquote>

Once the WebKit SDK is out, yes, I can agree.

[quote]In other words building a better browser (whatever that means to the individual developer/user), not a better rendering component.<hr></blockquote>

But you'll be limited to KHTML as a back-end, which was my point.

buonrotto · January 21, 2003 10:28AM

I think the idea of using KHTML wasn't for its current state (or what was its current state, it's already been much improved by the Safari team's code), but for its potential anyway.

eman · January 21, 2003 3:19PM

Even though I haven't really used Chimera in two weeks, I really hope it survives. It's still a great browser and should continue to become better.

dr. pweent · January 21, 2003 5:52PM

Chimera's not dead yet. Read the <a href="http://mozpink.blogspot.com/2003_01_01_mozpink_archive.html#87788196"; target="_blank">next day's entry</a> in Pink's blog. Sample:

[quote]It's easy to get sidetracked on the "woe is me, we lost again" tangent (especially if you've been at Netscape for 5+ years), but it's time to get back to why we're doing this at all: because it's fun.<hr></blockquote>

Chalk it up to a moment of despair from one (albeit a major) member of the Chimera project. I'm using and liking Safari these days, but still fire up Chimera from time to time when I *NEED* the tabs; I'm still eager to see the progress of both browsers as they approach 1.0.

[ 01-21-2003: Message edited by: Dr. Pweent ]

Chimera is dying. I feel like crying..

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