Apple releases Apple TV "Take 2" software update

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  • Reply 121 of 179
    My apple tv is at version 1.1 but when I click to update is says it is up to date. It doesnt seem to find the version 2.0 update. I am living outside the US but have a US Itunes account running.



    Any ideas on how to get the take 2 update?
  • Reply 122 of 179
    Anyone know if you rent a movie over itunes (SD), will a rentals tab pop up on your appletv so you can stream it to your TV if you wanted to? Or does it only reside on your computer/iphone/ipod. There are cases where I would start a movie on my iphone, but would like to finish it on the big screen?
  • Reply 123 of 179
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by PatsFan83 View Post


    Anyone know if you rent a movie over itunes (SD), will a rentals tab pop up on your appletv so you can stream it to your TV if you wanted to? Or does it only reside on your computer/iphone/ipod. There are cases where I would start a movie on my iphone, but would like to finish it on the big screen?



    If it works like the moving it to the iPod/iPhone, you have to manual push i to the AppleTV from within iTunes. It can now only be played on the AppleTV until you again use iTunes to pull it off the AppleTV.



    In contrast, any SD or HD renals that are made via the AppleTV interface will only reside and play on AppleTV. These can't be transfered.
  • Reply 124 of 179
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Hi. Does anyone know how to disengage the Apple remote from a computer? Every time I use the remote for ATV it's affects my iMac as well even though it's behind me! Do I need to completely shut off front row? If so how do I do that? I would prefer to just shut the remote off- very annoying.
  • Reply 125 of 179
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by neuby View Post


    The Apple really needs bluetooth keyboard support, or let us use my iphone as a keyboard, for you tube and searching movie titles or songs it's easier to type there keyboard layout sucks on the apple tv.



    The remote is giving me carpal tunnel syndrome- just kidding, just kidding.
  • Reply 126 of 179
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Hi. Does anyone know how to disengage the Apple remote from a computer? Every time I use the remote for ATV it's affects my iMac as well even though it's behind me! Do I need to completely shut off front row? If so how do I do that? I would prefer to just shut the remote off- very annoying.



    System Preferences => Security => check Disable Remote Control Infrared Receiver
  • Reply 127 of 179
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PatsFan83 View Post


    Once apple starts loading up on library titles, this thing is gunna take off.



    If you can buy the HD titles- yes.

    If you can only rent them- no. I really can't imagine sales increasing dramatically for an HD rental box. I know it has movies for sale in ST versions but they are blocky and this is still marketed as an HD machine.
  • Reply 128 of 179
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    Originally Posted by Booga View Post


    Because most DVDs have DTS 5.1, which has several times the bandwidth of Dolby 5.1. And <i>it's all about bandwidth</i>. This seems like a hard thing for some people to understand, but generally the more bandwidth you give something, the higher quality you get. iTMS HD rentals give their media streams about the same bandwidth as DVDs... so if you upconvert a DVD to 720p (or 1080i or 1080p or 2160p or 17200p.. the output resolution is irrelevent) you'll probably get similar results.



    No, the quality depends on the codec, and in this case H264 is used. This is a far better codec than mpeg2 (for DVD). The quality of H264 compressed movies with the bandwidth supported by Apple TV is absolutely fantastic and can be compared to HD discs.
  • Reply 129 of 179
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    Originally Posted by kjtooke View Post


    Was looking forward to being able to browse my movie collection by genre (and maybe search for a specific movie)...



    Alas - Selecting a movie by genre only appears to be possible when you want to rent one. I guess Apple thinks most people will have no more than a handfull of movies on their system (I have about 400 now, having converted a large selection of my DVD collection to .mp4 and streaming this from a Mac mini)



    Waiting on ATV Take3 . . . !



    (and now after connection to my iTunes on the Mac mini the whole movie rental section seems to have disappeared completely...?)







    That and My movies are at the bottom of the list, which is a bit annoying. I understand that they want people to use the store and rentals but I think my content should be given top priority. I will have to look into the parental controls and set them up so that my 6 year old doesn't start renting movies.
  • Reply 130 of 179
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    System Preferences => Security => check Disable Remote Control Infrared Receiver



    Much thanks.

    Can front row still be operated without the remote if I want to use it? I most likely won't now but it's good to know if I have an option. Or will I need to check this on and off everytime?
  • Reply 131 of 179
    thomprthompr Posts: 1,521member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Again I disagree. The whole purpose of ATV is for videophiles not iPods. That is why it is not selling well because those who have HD TVs just look at the image in the store and with the exception of photos- it just doesn't cut it. Hopefully these HD rentals will help change that but it's not there yet. We can buy different quality in music already on iTunes and we should be able to do so with video.

    It is true the iPod video came first but now we have ATV with HDMI, built for HD TVs.



    Teckstud,



    I think you do a great job of explaining why AppleTV falls short of videophile expectations. However, if you think that "the whole purpose of AppleTV is for videophiles", then I think you are sadly mistaken. Different strokes for different folks. AppleTV is not just for videophiles. It is also for people who value convenience. One day in the future (when the iTunes rental library grows to include all releases) I will be able to just sit on my couch and select any movie for rental without having to drive to Blockbuster. And the movie I want to watch will be guaranteed to be in stock. Sure, there are some movies that are dazzling video treats that I will want Blue-Ray for (e.g. Lord of the Rings, Matrix, Transformers, etc) and I will likely go out and purchase those. But I will be fine with the lower quality versions of the latest romantic comedy to view with the wife, if it means all I have to do is pick up the remote and get going. Look out Blockbuster... your days of mass market appeal are ending within 5 years. Only videophiles will drive to your stores for your physical media once online delivery gets going strong.



    Thompson
  • Reply 132 of 179
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Much thanks.

    Can front row still be operated without the remote if I want to use it? I most likely won't now but it's good to know if I have an option. Or will I need to check this on and off everytime?



    There is supposedly a procedure to "pair" a remote to a device, so the "wrong" remote doesn't trigger the device that's paired to another remote.



    You'll have to check the manual or Google it to get the procedure.
  • Reply 133 of 179
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thompr View Post


    Teckstud,



    I think you do a great job of explaining why AppleTV falls short of videophile expectations. However, if you think that "the whole purpose of AppleTV is for videophiles", then I think you are sadly mistaken. Different strokes for different folks. AppleTV is not just for videophiles.

    Thompson



    That was a bit extreme I admit. However , I said whole purpose, not sole purpose.

    But the ATV is made for HDTV not TV. Why do you think it's has HDMI and component outputs only? Now not everybody who has HD is a videophile - that is true. And some people just use computer to watch porn- good for them.

    So use ATV to heat a croissant too if you want - it's all up to you. Different strokes for different folks.
  • Reply 134 of 179
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GregAlexander View Post


    My parents love the screen saver. They leave it playing in the background - so that the pictures float up the screen.



    Does this screen saver still exist in the new AppleTV?

    If it doesn't, it'd be enough for them to not upgrade.....



    Yes, the screen saver is the same.
  • Reply 135 of 179
    thomprthompr Posts: 1,521member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    So use ATV to heat a croissant too if you want - it's all up to you. Different strokes for different folks.



    Teckstud,



    OK, if you want to resort to absurd analogies, I'll go ahead and complete it: suppose that one day I found myself in the mood for a warm croissant and -alas! - I only had a cold low-quality croissant in my refrigerator. Suppose further that I had no heat sources (stove, microwave, toaster, fireplace, whatever) other than the top of my AppleTV. It seems to me that I have 4 choices: (1) I can eat that cold low-quality croissant, (2) I can use the AppleTV to warm it up and then eat it, (3) I can get off my lazy ass and drive to a bakery where I might be able to get a hot top-of-the-line croissant (assuming they aren't already sold out, ala Blockbuster) or (4) I can just go hungry or eat something else.



    The answer I choose depends on how hungry I am relative to my desire for quality (and heat). If I'm not particularly hungry at all, I may choose option (4). If I'm only slightly hungry but have a serious Jones for a tasty croissant, I may choose option (3) and hope that they have them in stock. If I'm hungry enough that I don't want to wait or I finnd that the bakery is "sold out", then I'll go for option (2). And if I'm absolutely famished and just can't wait at all, I'll just lower myself to option (1). It seems to me like you are insatiable for the quality croissant (remember, it's still just an analogy) so you can't understand why someone would opt for staying home and choking down the lousy croissant. Let me tell you something: you are not representative of the average Joe. Many people will opt to stay home and get the low quality product, because convenience matters. Someday, when bandwidth increases, we'll be able to have our high quality croissants and a high level of convenience all at the same time. But that is not true today. So until the AppleTV can deliver me the hot bakery croissant, I'll still be loving it for the warmth it does provide. And every once in a while, I'll go to the bakery.



    Cheers,

    Thompson
  • Reply 136 of 179
    Teckstud,



    I'm not in front of my Apple TV right now, but hopefully you caught that earlier response that you can indeed pair your remote to either the Apple TV or your Mac remote to your Mac. I've done it. Under Settings on Apple TV you'll see the ?Pairing Your Remote? option. It works.



    And after pairing, you can even use a learning remote to learn and control your Apple TV and not affect your Mac as you do so. Give Apple credit. It would have taken 150,000 e-mail complaints to Microsoft before they would have even admitted to a remote conflict situation, much less had a simple solution to it before people even started complaining.
  • Reply 137 of 179
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thompr View Post


    Teckstud,



    OK, if you want to resort to absurd analogies, I'll go ahead and complete it: suppose that one day I found myself in the mood for a warm croissant and -alas! - I only had a cold low-quality croissant in my refrigerator. Suppose further that I had no heat sources (stove, microwave, toaster, fireplace, whatever) other than the top of my AppleTV. It seems to me that I have 4 choices: (1) I can eat that cold low-quality croissant, (2) I can use the AppleTV to warm it up and then eat it, (3) I can get off my lazy ass and drive to a bakery where I might be able to get a hot top-of-the-line croissant (assuming they aren't already sold out, ala Blockbuster) or (4) I can just go hungry or eat something else.



    The answer I choose depends on how hungry I am relative to my desire for quality (and heat). If I'm not particularly hungry at all, I may choose option (4). If I'm only slightly hungry but have a serious Jones for a tasty croissant, I may choose option (3) and hope that they have them in stock. If I'm hungry enough that I don't want to wait or I finnd that the bakery is "sold out", then I'll go for option (2). And if I'm absolutely famished and just can't wait at all, I'll just lower myself to option (1). It seems to me like you are insatiable for the quality croissant (remember, it's still just an analogy) so you can't understand why someone would opt for staying home and choking down the lousy croissant. Let me tell you something: you are not representative of the average Joe. Many people will opt to stay home and get the low quality product, because convenience matters. Someday, when bandwidth increases, we'll be able to have our high quality croissants and a high level of convenience all at the same time. But that is not true today. So until the AppleTV can deliver me the hot bakery croissant, I'll still be loving it for the warmth it does provide. And every once in a while, I'll go to the bakery.



    Cheers,

    Thompson



    All right already- you're making me hungry! And it's too cold to leave my apartment!
  • Reply 138 of 179
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Much thanks.

    Can front row still be operated without the remote if I want to use it? I most likely won't now but it's good to know if I have an option. Or will I need to check this on and off everytime?



    Command+Esc will enter Front Row. From there you can use the arrow and Enter keys to navigate.
  • Reply 139 of 179
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Command+Esc will enter Front Row. From there you can use the arrow and Enter keys to navigate.



    Wow! It all works great. Thank you - thank you -thank you.
  • Reply 140 of 179
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Wow! It all works great. Thank you - thank you -thank you.

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