Rock Band - Rush

Posted:
in AppleOutsider edited January 2014
I never listened to Rush, but I am a big Rock Band fan and Rush is a staple. I fell in love with "Tom Sawyer" and got both of the DLC tracks ("Limelight" and "Working Man").



I really do like them, but is there a band out there with more painful lyrics? They read like a brainy, nerdy 10th grader's term paper.



Just take this bit from "Spirit of the Radio"

All this machinery

Making modern music

Can still be open-hearted

Not so coldly charted

Its really just a question

Of your honesty



One likes to believe

In the freedom of music

But glittering prizes

And endless compromises

Shatter the illusion

Of integrity




That is prose.



I like it, but they baffle me.



(And lord... his voice sucks.)

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 17
    shawnjshawnj Posts: 6,656member
    Dear God.



    If you want to delete this thread, you'll be doing yourself a big favor.







    *But I do give you props for putting yourself out there, man.
  • Reply 2 of 17
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 31,317member
    Neil Peart (author of said mangled prose) is a known Libertarian. They have some spectacularly inventive music... although everyone pretty much agrees with your comments about the awkward lyrics and Geddy Lee's screech.
  • Reply 3 of 17
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by groverat View Post




    I really do like them, but is there a band out there with more painful lyrics? They read like a brainy, nerdy 10th grader's term paper.



    Correction: a brainy, nerdy, 10-th grade term paper by a kid who read waaaay too much Ayn Rand.



    Lord. If you think those lyrics are bad, pick up "Trees" or "Anagram."



    For what it's worth, I thought Power Windows, Presto and Roll the Bones weren't tooooo horrible on the lyrics. Mostly. Well, sometimes.



    I once read a review of a TOTO album (whatever the one after "IV" was), and the reviewer said "If they weren't such good musicians, TOTO would be the worst band in the world." His point was that the lyrics were horrrrrrrrible. I think the same is true for Rush. Yes, as well.



    No, seriously.



    Seriously.



    Think about this: the only difference between Tenacious D lyrics and Yes lyrics is that the D is joking.
  • Reply 4 of 17
    dmzdmz Posts: 5,775member
    midwinter, you blasphemer.



    Presto and Roll the Bones weren't really their best work -- kinda the beginning of the end. Hold Your Fire was pretty good but a little too touchy-feely. I'd take a look at Xanadu (duh) or Cygnus X-1 on A Farewell to Kings; Red Sector A on Grace Under Pressure; The Analog Kid and Losing It on Signals. Fly By Night and Hemispheres weren't too bad.



    The dancer slows her frantic pace

    In pain and desperation,

    Her aching limbs and downcast face

    Aglow with perspiration



    Stiff as wire, her lungs on fire,

    With just the briefest pause

    The flooding through her memory,

    The echoes of old applause.



    She limps across the floor

    And closes her bedroom door...



    The writer stare with glassy eyes

    Defies the empty page

    His beard is white, his face is lined



    And streaked with tears of rage.



    Thirty years ago, how the words would flow

    With passion and precision,

    But now his mind is dark and dulled

    By sickness and indecision



    And he stares out the kitchen door

    Where the sun will rise no more...



    Some are born to move the world

    To live their fantasies

    But most of us just dream about

    The things we'd like to be

    Sadder still to watch it die

    Than never to have known it

    For you, the blind who once could see

    The bell tolls for thee...



    Side two of Moving Pictures -- The Camera's Eye, IMHO. is one of their better songs.
  • Reply 5 of 17
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by groverat View Post


    I really do like them, but is there a band out there with more painful lyrics? They read like a brainy, nerdy 10th grader's term paper.



    I take it you haven't heard the two-part epic "Cygnus X-1," which tells the story of a man who achieves 2001-esque deification after piloting a spaceship through a black hole. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.



    The early 80's stuff is probably their best, though. As for lyrics in prog rock, in Rush the lyrics are actually coherent and generally have meaning, even if the meaning is insanely cheesy. In Yes or ELP, they are completely secondary, intentionally so. Saying that Yes lyrics are unintelligent is like saying that horses are lousy at swimming.



    Either way, Rush forms an important pillar of the generic Canadian culture, in which they are joined by hockey and beer. Go Canada!
  • Reply 6 of 17
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    "The Trees," FTW!



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rush


    There is unrest in the forest,

    There is trouble with the trees,

    For the maples want more sunlight

    And the oaks ignore their pleas.



    The trouble with the maples,

    (And they're quite convinced they're right)

    They say the oaks are just too lofty

    And they grab up all the light.

    But the oaks can't help their feelings

    If they like the way they're made.

    And they wonder why the maples

    Can't be happy in their shade.



    There is trouble in the forest,

    And the creatures all have fled,

    As the maples scream "Oppression!"

    And the oaks just shake their heads



    So the maples formed a union

    And demanded equal rights.

    "The oaks are just too greedy;

    We will make them give us light."

    Now there's no more oak oppression,

    For they passed a noble law,

    And the trees are all kept equal

    By hatchet, axe, and saw.



  • Reply 7 of 17
    dmzdmz Posts: 5,775member
    You devil -- FTW -- for the win?? or F--- the world?



    Parry -Thrust!



    Red Barchetta

    (The song was inspired by the futuristic short story "A Nice Morning Drive", written by Richard Foster)



    My uncle has a country place

    That no one knows about

    He says it used to be a farm

    Before the Motor Law

    And on Sundays I elude the eyes

    And hop the Turbine Freight

    To far outside the Wire

    Where my white-haired uncle waits



    Jump to the ground

    As the Turbo slows to cross the borderline

    Run like the wind

    As excitement shivers up and down my spine

    Down in his barn

    My uncle preserved for me an old machine

    For fifty odd years

    To keep it as new has been his dearest dream



    I strip away the old debris

    That hides a shining car

    A brilliant red Barchetta

    From a better vanished time

    I fire up the willing engine

    Responding with a roar

    Tires spitting gravel

    I commit my weekly crime



    Wind

    In my hair

    Shifting and drifting

    Mechanical music

    Adrenaline surge...



    Well-weathered leather

    Hot metal and oil

    The scented country air

    Sunlight on chrome

    The blur of the landscape

    Every nerve aware



    Suddenly ahead of me

    Across the mountainside

    A gleaming alloy air car

    Shoots towards me, two lanes wide

    I spin around with shrieking tires

    To run the deadly race

    Go screaming through the valley

    As another joins the chase



    Drive like the wind

    Straining the limits of machine and man

    Laughing out loud with fear and hope

    I've got a desperate plan

    At the one-lane bridge

    I leave the giants stranded at the riverside

    Race back to the farm

    To dream with my uncle at the fireside
  • Reply 8 of 17
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by midwinter View Post


    "The Trees," FTW!



    Totally a coherent story, as silly as it may be. Drivel indeed, but it's certainly no worse than the faux-americana (or faux-canadiana) drivel that we know you listen to.
  • Reply 9 of 17
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Splinemodel View Post


    Totally a coherent story, as silly as it may be. Drivel indeed, but it's certainly no worse than the faux-americana (or faux-canadiana) drivel that we know you listen to.



    As sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serrrrrrrrrrrrrrrengeti.
  • Reply 10 of 17
    dmzdmz Posts: 5,775member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by midwinter View Post


    As sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serrrrrrrrrrrrrrrengeti.



  • Reply 11 of 17
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by groverat View Post


    I never listened to Rush, but I am a big Rock Band fan and Rush is a staple. I fell in love with "Tom Sawyer" and got both of the DLC tracks ("Limelight" and "Working Man").



    I really do like them, but is there a band out there with more painful lyrics? They read like a brainy, nerdy 10th grader's term paper.



    Well, Neil Peart is both brainy and nerdy. Those lyrics are from around 1980 I think. Read them again and tell me if they weren't a little bit prophetic though. As far as the lyrics in general....that's one of the things that I liked about Rush. The lyrics aren't your usual sex, drugs, party and rock and roll type so they're a nice variation.



    Quote:

    (And lord... his voice sucks.)



    Been a Rush fan for a long time and Geddy's voice never bothered me. In fact until a friend of mine was describing Rush to another friend some years ago and said something about his voice I'd never had a thought about it. It's rock and roll man.



    By the way, Rush are gonna be touring this year. I recommend them highly. Saw them at a packed Hollywood Bowl last year and they were nothing short of amazing. Their last album being something completely different from what they've done in the past.



    Few bands in the history of R & R can boast of having such talented musicians on the same band. The few bands that do are the classics.



    The Way the Wind Blows ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17W-YpXSxPs)





    Now it's come to this

    It's like we're back in the Dark Ages

    From the Middle East to the Middle West

    It's a world of superstition



    Now it's come to this

    Wide-eyed armies of the faithful

    From the Middle East to the Middle West

    Pray, and pass the ammunition



    So many people think that way

    You gotta watch what you say

    To them and them, and others too

    Who don't seem to see things the way you do



    We can only grow the way the wind blows

    On a bare and weathered shore

    We can only bow to the here and now

    In our elemental war



    We can only grow the way the wind blows



    We can only bow to the here and now

    Or be broken down blow by blow



    Now it's come to this

    Hollow speeches of mass deception

    From the Middle East to the Middle West

    Like crusaders in unholy alliance



    Now it's come to this

    Like we're back in the Dark Ages

    From the Middle East to the Middle West

    It's a plague that resists all science



    It seems to leave them partly blind

    And they leave no child behind

    While evil spirits haunt their sleep

    While shepherds bless and count their sheep



    Like a solitary pine

    On a bare wind-blasted shore

    We can only grow the way the wind blows



  • Reply 12 of 17
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dmz View Post


    midwinter, you blasphemer.



    Presto and Roll the Bones weren't really their best work -- kinda the beginning of the end.



    What end? They're still making music and selling out arenas (not tiny venues or country fairs) around the world 30 plus years later.



    Those are great lyrics from Signals by the way. Last year they brought back my fav from that album which is Digital Man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5lekKA-Z_0



    Quote:

    Side two of Moving Pictures -- The Camera's Eye, IMHO. is one of their better songs.



    Love the Camera Eye. Rumour has it that they may pull this one out of the vault for the coming tour.
  • Reply 13 of 17
    dmzdmz Posts: 5,775member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gilsch View Post


    What end? They're still making music and selling out arenas (not tiny venues or country fairs) around the world 30 plus years later.



    Those are great lyrics from Signals by the way. Last year they brought back my fav from that album which is Digital Man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5lekKA-Z_0







    Love the Camera Eye. Rumour has it that they may pull this one out of the vault for the coming tour.



    Saw them three times. on Presto, Counterparts, and Test for Echo. I've seen a lot of live bands with exposed amps, etc., a lot bands where the band members will noodle with their instruments on stage. Never, ever, saw that with Rush. Very, very tight.



    The Camera Eye



    Grim-faced and forbidding,

    Their faces closed tight,

    An angular mass of New Yorkers

    Pacing in rhythm,

    Race the oncoming night,

    They chase through the streets of Manhattan.

    Headfirst humanity,

    Pause at a light,

    Then flow through the streets of the city.



    They seem oblivious

    To a soft spring rain,

    Like an English rain

    So light, yet endless

    From a leaden sky.



    The buildings are lost in the limitless rise.

    My feet catch the pulse and the purposeful stride.



    I feel the sense of possibilities,

    I feel the wrench of hard realities.

    The focus is sharp in the city.



    Wide-angle watcher

    On life's ancient tales,

    Steeped in the history of London.



    Mist in the streets of Westminster.

    Wistful and weathered,

    The pride still prevails,

    Alive in the streets of the city.



    Are they oblivious

    To this quality?

    A quality

    Of light unique to

    Every city's streets.



    Pavements may teem with intense energy,

    But the city is calm in this violent sea.













    annnnnnd....



    Red Sector A



    All that we can do is just survive

    All that we can do to help ourselves

    Is stay alive...



    Ragged lines of ragged grey

    Skeletons, they shuffle away

    Shouting guards and smoking guns

    Will cut down the unlucky ones



    I clutch the wire fence

    Until my fingers bleed

    A wound that will not heal-

    A heart that cannot feel-

    Hoping that the horror will recede

    Hoping that tomorrow-

    We'll all be freed



    Sickness to insanity

    Prayer to profanity

    Days and weeks and months go by

    Don't feel the hunger-too weak to cry



    I hear the sound of gunfire

    At the prison gate

    Are the liberators here-

    Do I hope or do I fear?

    For my father and my brother-it's too late

    But I must help my mother

    Stand up straight...



    Are we the last ones left alive?

    Are we the only human beings

    To survive?...
  • Reply 14 of 17
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dmz View Post


    Saw them three times. Twice at Reunion in Dallas: Presto, and Counterparts -- and once at the Gorge (at George) on Test for Echo. I've seen a lot of live bands with exposed amps, etc., a lot bands where the band members will noodle with their instruments on stage. Never, ever, saw that with Rush. Very, very tight.



    Very true. Believe it or not, that Presto tour was one of my all time favs. I was very young and that was my first time seeing Rush. Will never forget the giant inflatable bunnies.



    Just recently I was "sponsoring" a band here in LA. Good kids, very talented. No alcohol no drugs which is amazing. lol Influences from Santana to Rage. I played them some Rush and invited the drummer and lead guitar to the show down in Irvine, CA last year. We got lucky and scored 10th row seats.



    Well, the drummer was in awe of Peart and the guitar guy said he loved Lifeson because few guitar players can truly have a complete style of their own. They're both bigger Rush evangelists than I am now.
  • Reply 15 of 17
    backtomacbacktomac Posts: 4,579member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by groverat View Post


    I never listened to Rush, but I am a big Rock Band fan and Rush is a staple. I fell in love with "Tom Sawyer" and got both of the DLC tracks ("Limelight" and "Working Man").



    I really do like them, but is there a band out there with more painful lyrics? ............





    I like it, but they baffle me.



    Take another hit off the joint and it'll make more sense. Really.



    You don't listen to that stuff sober, do you?
  • Reply 16 of 17
    Firstly, I'm old...I saw them in 1975 when I was 15. They were good musically, but I hate the lead singer even today. Helium.



    But I have always been a three man band fan forever. There's just something about this combination. Nothing lacking and nothing overdone. Just right for rock (and jazz).



    Some faves I found on YouTube:



    Johnny Burnette and the Rock & Roll Trio



    Link Wray



    Cream



    Jimi Hendrix Experience



    ZZ Top



    The Jam



    XTC Ooop, there were four, but this still rocks.



    The Police



    Big Black



    Husker Du



    The Minutemen



    Nirvana, I could go on and on and on....
  • Reply 17 of 17
    jimdreamworxjimdreamworx Posts: 1,064member
    Another three-man Canadian band from that time period: Klaatu.



    Three musicians who kept their identity hidden, not because they wanted the world to thing they were the reunited Beatles, but so they wouldn't loose their jobs working with symphony orchestras.



    http://www.klaatu.org/



    One look at the album covers and lyrics and you can tell they were still coming off their '60s high.
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